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Let’s Talk Ethics...

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

Many agents believe that REALTORS are really held to higher standards. Let us put this theory to the test.

So, here is the story… To be exact, below are two stories.

Story #1

I received the email from a Board member of one of the condo-hotels. He received the contract for sale and purchase for approval concerning a unit in the condo-hotel, and he is supposed to approve the buyer.

What’s the big deal?

The big deal is that the unit, which was sold about a year ago for, let’s say, $50K is now being sold for nearly 3 times more.

Did the prices go up this much in one year?

No. The prices went up, but nowhere near that dramatically…

I checked local MLS, no listing. I am being told that the listing is in Orlando Regional MLS, not where the property is, i.e. Daytona Beach. However, the listing agent is local.

The Buyer does not have an agent. What shocks here is the contract price. There are several units for sale in this condo-hotel, and you can get a double unit for nearly half of this price.

Of course, we can argue about the values, but my sixth sense is telling me that the Buyer is clueless about the values, and the Listing agent is exploiting the Buyer’s naiveté.

COE, as far as I remember, would prohibit any REALTOR to turn to the Buyer and ask whether the Buyer understands that s/he is agreeing to pay way over double for the property.

Whom do you think COE is protecting in this scenario?

Story # 2

A few days ago, the listing of a residential condo popped on MLS for …$57K. There is one listing in the complex now and it is for $123,900. Two units are under contract and the asking price on those was about $125K.

This condo is a shell, quite some work has to be done, but the price is ridiculously low. My guess is that it could have been sold for about $85K. We are talking about close to $30K loss to the Seller.

I contacted one of the investors, sent the offer, no answer. Next day the agent called me back. The unit was already under contract, it was gone. The agent was completely overwhelmed. She got about 25 cash offers, her fax was working non-stop, she was not able to answer the phone, her email exploded…

She feels happy. She put the property under contract in one day. She, probably, would be bragging to Sellers at her listing appointments how she sold a condo in one day…

Does she understand, that she screwed the Seller big time?

I doubt it.

Some thoughts

If it were up to me, I would, at least in Florida, make the following rule: if only the Seller is represented, then the agent/broker automatically transitions to transaction broker.

I know that many people cringe at the idea of one agent working with both the Seller and the Buyer. But it is not the problem. The problem is when one side is represented and the other is not, it is how you do things. A transaction broker would have to be equally fair to both parties:

“The State of Florida makes it clear that any Transaction Broker must provide a limited form of representation to both parties in a real estate transaction.

This limited representation includes:

Dealing honestly and fairly
Accounting for all funds
Using skill, care, and diligence in a transaction
Disclosing facts known about the property that might affect the value of the property
Presenting all offers and counteroffers in a timely manner
Limited confidentially – unless waived by a party.” (See here)

In cases like these, COE protects the agents and allows the public to get screwed.

Ethically screwed…
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Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Jon, I am sorry you feel this way and had a couple bad experiences. Are You a Realtor? How about reporting the Ethics Violation, just a thought... I know for a fact that a small per cent of bad apples do not make them all bad...Endre

Apr 09, 2018 11:33 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Endre Barath, Jr. - but where do you see an ethics violation? Which violations can I report? There is no ethics violation as it relates to COE, at least I do not know what it is.

I am not saying agents are all bad, I am saying that the COE is not really protecting the public in these and many other cases. Actually, the opposite is true in cases like these. So, what to report? That an agent was a moron and underpriced the property by 65%? It is fine. And the Principals and the Public would not know, nobody can tell them that they have been screwed. This is the beauty of the system.

And yes, I am a REALTOR, as I need MLS to be able to work, and it is cheaper than being a Thompson broker, so I am a REALTOR. By the way, remember the crisis in 2007? If you are curious, read Realtor magazine for those years and you would read the hype and no warnings. And then a lot of people got hurt. But it was all kosher, I guess... They just kept lying...

Apr 10, 2018 12:07 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Jon, I could see the risk being much higher to the consumer in a state like Florida where so many people are buying a 2nd home or a retirement home and not tracking the actual market values.  And the same for absentee sellers, they're trusting the listing agent to do it right.  And we see regularly that agents don't always do a great job of pricing.  Our neighbors here in Ohio just went on the market.  I'm estimating they're at least 20% over market value (but only time will tell if I'm right).  Bill

Apr 10, 2018 05:17 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Liz and Bill Spear - good points. I guess it affects us more than, probably, some other states.

Interestingly, being wrong on the high side is always corrected later Call it a market correction. But seriously underpricing rarely goes noticed.

Thank you for your thoughtful comment

Apr 10, 2018 06:07 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

And too often I think you're right on the underpricing aspect.  The agent is a "hero" because the home sold so fast, but sometimes that means serious money left on the table.  Now if that's the seller's wish, so be it.  But they count on us to truthfully assess the market, and if we fail, they lose.

Apr 10, 2018 07:37 PM