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The attic is often if not always less than a pleasant place. Much like the basement it can be kind of creepy.  Bugs, rodents and other creepy crawlies love to inhabit the attic. You can feel your hair standing on end just thinking about it!

I entered an attic the other day that was kind of...well nice, at first. I noticed almost immediately a very pleasant, familiar scent. I was pondering the odor and looking around when I noticed some very large and numerous...spider webs!?

Hardly an unusual find in an attic, but these were different. First off they were sort of blue in color. Weird. And then there was that odor.

Then it hit me. I went back down the stairway and started looking around on the second floor for...the laundry room! It was located right under those strange spider webs. And sure enough there was the dryer venting pipe going into the wall in a vertical direction.

So the nice scent was dryer sheets and those spider webs, lint! It seems the builder - owner had run the pipe up through the wall into the attic and out the soffit with a louvered vent. Unfortunately the pipe had come loose and was expelling all that lint and moisture into the attic.

A couple of points to make about this method of venting a dryer.

  1. Running the vent pipe through a finished wall is not advisable. Especially if it is a flex type of pipe of metal or worse plastic. Rigid pipe is now usually required on a new installation. Even with this type of pipe the seams must be sealed.
  2. Terminating the vent in the soffit or worse the attic is again not advisable. The soffit is usually vented and is drawing air into the attic, therefore some of the moisture and lint is being sucked back into the attic.
  3. Too many bends and or the pipe being too long are also detrimental and potentially dangerous.

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) estimates that 15,500 fires associated with clothes dryers occur annually. These fires account for an average of 10 deaths and 310 injuries and more than $84.4 million in property damage annually.

It seems many people are not aware of the real danger of fire an improperly vented or maintained clothes dryer can present. UL offers some further Product Safety Tips on their web site.

This attic as it turns out was not as creepy as most, but it was a potentially dangerous place with a morning fresh scent.

James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

 
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9 Comments on A Creepy Attic With A Morning Fresh Scent

James - People do the darnest things. How old was this house? Good thing they were having the inspection or a serious accident was sure to happen.

05/26/2008 10:28 PM by Carl & Ceil Winters (Complete Inspection Service, New Braunfels, Texas 78133)


New home/condo builders are becoming increasingly guilty of venting this way, and I think it's because there are no specific codes against it.

05/27/2008 05:50 AM by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties))


Carl, The house was only a few years old. It was however poorly built.

Kevin, I believe you are correct. These vents should not be run inside finished walls for what you would think are obvious reasons.

05/28/2008 05:52 AM by James Quarello - ASHI Certified CT Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC)


Fantastic post James, I harp on the subject at every home inspection. We lost two houses, no lives, last year in the Mid-Ohio valley due to dryer fires. This is one place, save internal electrical issues that there should be no reason to have a fire. Keep up the good work and Thank you.

Blessings

06/01/2008 03:54 PM by Michael Reel (Integrity Home Inspections LLC)


To answer the question about Code requirements for dryer ducts.

2006 International Residential Code says:

 

SECTION M1501 GENERAL

M1501.1 Outdoor discharge The air removed by every mechanical exhaust system shall be discharged to the outdoors.  Air shall not be exhausted into the attic, soffit, ridge vent or crawl space.

 

SECTION M1502 CLOTHES DRYER EXHAUST

M1502.2 Duct Termination  Exhaust ducts shall terminate on the outside of the building.  Exhaust duct terminations shall be in accordance with the dryer manufacturer's installation instructions.  Exhaust ducts shall terminate not less than 3 feet (914 mm) in any direction from the openings into buildings.  Exhaust terminations shall be equipped with a backdraft damper. Screens shall not be installed at the duct termination.

 

I see this same thing, but in crawlspaces.  Sloppy construction practices.

07/16/2008 07:20 PM by J. Brandon Roberts (Reveal Property Inspections)


I would think that in the winter it would help with heating bills but in the summer would murder the A/C bills.

07/16/2008 07:55 PM by Gene Allen Realtor Hampton Roads Real Estate (Resh Realty Group)


Gene,

In the winter all the excess moisture may freeze on the attic wood and insulation.  When warmer weather comes, the water may thaw and "rain" in the attic.  Regardless, the excess moisture can increase the chance of growing mold or other organic material.

Venting a dryer in an attic is a bad idea.

07/16/2008 09:05 PM by J. Brandon Roberts (Reveal Property Inspections)


J. & Gene,

The dryer wasn't purposely vented into the attic, it had come loose from the outside vent. The other problem you mat notice in the photo, but I didn't write in the post is the insulation on the roof.

07/17/2008 06:25 AM by James Quarello - ASHI Certified CT Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC)


Looking back, that is a very well written post James.

07/23/2008 01:15 AM by Bob Elliott (Chicago Property Inspection) (Elliott Home Inspection)


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