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How Does the National Association of Realtors Justify 923* BoD?

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Real Estate Agent with Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info DB-17066

There have been lots of changes lately at the National Association of Realtors (NAR).  The only thing constant in this world today is in fact change itself.

They thought about changing the LOGO but after spending countless hours and money, they appear to have tabled or abandoned that change.

They announced an increase in dues which always will cause people to complain.  They slowed down, heard but not sure if they listened, and appear to be going forward with the dues increase from $120 a year to $150

However, the one thing I have been struggling with is how in the world they justify having over 900* voting NAR Directors?  I had no idea what the "right" number should be so I started doing a bit of research.  I tried to find companies/organizations that even had 100+ directors and failed in my attempt.  Here is what I have learned so far:

According to: https://www.briefinggovernance.com/2017/12/as-spencer-stuart-releases-its-latest-sp-500-board-index-how-does-your-board-compare/ they looked at the board composition of S&P 500 companies and found the board size averaged 10.8 members and only 18% had over 13 members!  According to this article: http://graphics.wsj.com/boards-of-directors-at-SP-500-companies/ there were 4,500 people serving on the S&P 500 which would be an average of only 9 directors per company!  This Wall Street Journal article illustrates that smaller boards get bigger returns: https://www.wsj.com/articles/smaller-boards-get-bigger-returns-1409078628 stating "...large boards underperformed peers by 10.85 percentage points".  In this article: https://www.boardeffect.com/blog/board-size-nonprofit-governance/ it states "the optimal number of directors for boards to make a decision is seven. Every added board member after that decreases decision-making by 10%." That would mean that NAR has 916* Board of Directors who's effective contribution is -10% each!

One organization that is very controversial today is the NRA.  (No I wasn't dyslexic - grin.)  They claim to have 5 million members compared to NAR's 1.2 million.  Somehow, they still get the job done at NRA with 76 board members.  That means NRA is about four times the size with 10% of the board members!

If the National Association of Realtors would consider reducing the board size drastically, think of the money that would be saved for it's members while simultaneously increasing it's effectiveness!  I know that NAR does not pay most of it's board members, but they do have to communicate with them, house them for meetings at least twice a year, train them, etc.  Some local and state associations do pay for travel and expenses for their members who serve on the board.

While we are at it, we should look at the benefits of having people that are not Realtors on the board of directors.  We should have people that insight from the mortgage industry, title industry, technology partners, attorneys, etc considered so we get their insights.

I will be sending this blog to the people that are serving via our Boise Regional Realtors and Idaho Association of Realtors to see what they think.

I have tried to look to find the benefit of having possibly the largest board of directors in the United States, but so far, the evidence is to the contrary. 

 

* This blog originally claimed there were "over 700" NAR Board of directors, but I found the actual number on their website so I updated the blog accordingly. 

 

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I thought that was an incredibly high and inefficient number myself.

Jun 15, 2018 12:25 PM
Jim Paulson

I have served on several Board of Directors (Local Assn of Realtors, State, NAR, MLS, as well as on others outside the real estate industry and tried to find justification for it, but there doesn't appear to be any.

Jun 15, 2018 05:32 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Jim loved this post, indeed I am sure   @Fred Griffin   and Debe Maxwell, CRS    would have loved this post too bad indeed you did not submit in time!!! maybe the powers to be can give you a late submission reward!! 

Jun 15, 2018 12:29 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten

I'm with you Endre Barath, Jr. on giving him a reward for posting this very VERY interesting post.

Jun 15, 2018 04:11 PM
Jim Paulson

Thanks for inspiring me to post it.  I have thought this for years and it really came to light as I read comments about the pending dues increase.  Remember back when they flew all the NAR directors to a special meeting for spinning off Realtor.com?  We would have saved about $1 million on travel expenses alone on that disaster.


I am not concerned at all about the AR points, but thanks for suggesting it.  If I wanted AR points, I could just write a script to log me in/out daily.  It is about quality not quantity of points.

Jun 15, 2018 05:39 PM
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate

  Hi, Endre Barath, Jr. and Anna Banana Kruchten CRB, CRS, Broker  and Jim Paulson 


I defer to Debe Maxwell, CRS - but I believe that you have until June 30 to post your Contest Entry, so you are "on time".


   


    Be sure to 


Jun 15, 2018 07:40 PM
Jim Paulson

Thanks to Fred Griffin for posting details on the contest.  I just read them and might have to edit mine to meet the criteria (i.e. add a graphic and reference I would do this as President of NAR.  I will probably post a new blog geared toward that topic since I do have a few other things I would definitely implement as well.

Jun 15, 2018 10:06 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

for some reasons I can not ping @fred griffin

Jun 15, 2018 12:30 PM
Jim Paulson

Interesting, it isn't letting me here either.  I don't think I can in a second tier comment.

Jun 15, 2018 05:40 PM
Jim Paulson

It does work now.  Might have been a glitch earlier today.

Jun 15, 2018 10:08 PM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Nice analysis Jim.  A

Jun 15, 2018 01:39 PM
Jim Paulson

Thank you.  I will be sending it to the Board of Directors that I know and see if anyone is brave enough to suggest drastically reducing the size of the board or prove why it makes sense to dilute it to this extreme.

Jun 15, 2018 05:42 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Jim....the saga goes on with NaR and somehow why am I not surprised.  Why in heavens name do we need 700+ board members?????

Jun 15, 2018 04:12 PM
Jim Paulson

Anna Banana Kruchten CRB, CRS, Broker 


I like a lot that NAR tries to do for us; however, they really need to take a fresh look at their business model and ask "If we were to recreate our business model, if it wouldn't like it does today?" If not, let's set a plan in action to correct it!


On a total side note, on my last trip to Florida I couldn't help but think of you when I saw this store front so I snapped the photo just for you.


 


Jun 15, 2018 05:45 PM
Brad Thomsen
Big Bear Realty - Edmonds, WA
Real Estate Services

Uh... why do we need NAR?...

Jun 15, 2018 05:32 PM
Jim Paulson

Personally, I like a lot of the member benefits and what they are trying to do for Realtors.  We have the triad (local, state, and national) and I often wonder if I could vote one off the island which would it be.  That is a blog for another day.

Jun 15, 2018 05:48 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Jim, I think we might be comparing apples and oranges when we compare a typical corporation to NAR.  That 700+ board member group is more of a political framework, (e.g. like Congress) and representing the various local areas, and we all know how often we say real estate is local in this business. 

Comparing that to the NRA, I'd say their membership may not be nearly as diversified in what they want or how they do things, so the representation can be much, much smaller. 

Jun 15, 2018 06:09 PM
Jim Paulson

Liz and Bill Spear I have not been able to find another "apple" similar to NAR to compare it to.  I agree we have a vary diversified membership base.  Using the NAR to Congress comparison, NAR has over 700 Board of Directors and teh United States only 535 members of congress including the 100 that serve in the US Senate and the 435 in the US House of Representatives.


The National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) appear to have 141 Executive Board of Directors.  That is the first one I have found over 100, let alone 700+.

Jun 15, 2018 10:02 PM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Great post Jim Paulson Congratulations on the well deserved Feature!

Jun 15, 2018 09:08 PM
Jim Paulson

Thank you.

Jun 15, 2018 10:02 PM
Janis Borgueta
Newburgh, NY
Retired RE Salesperson

NAR is a lot like the AMA - they are not for the people they represent. These giant boards end up voting to serve themselves. The ridiculous change and wasted money on that logo is one example of how they are not doing much to serve the individuals. 

Jun 16, 2018 02:51 AM
Jim Paulson

Janis Borgueta and the AMA only has 21 board members.  Some claim we need that many the current number on the NAR Board, but if they were effective, why would there be be so many complaints that they aren't listening to the members?

Jun 16, 2018 09:09 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Jim Paulson,

So glad to see your post featured! Great investigative work shedding some light on NAR from a point of view we haven't considered before!

Jun 16, 2018 04:33 AM
Jim Paulson

Thank you Dorie Dillard .  I hope if this blog shows support, it gets shared with NAR leadership.

Jun 16, 2018 09:15 AM
Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

With 700 board members there is no accountability, just a herd mentality

Jun 16, 2018 07:16 AM
Jim Paulson

Dave Halpern just to make sure I don't accidentally insert a copyrighted illustration of a herd of lemmings going off a cliff, follow (see what I did there? LOL) this link:  https://www.pinterest.com/hermanlab/lemmings/

Jun 16, 2018 09:20 AM
Debb Janes
Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
Put My Love of Nature At Work for You

Hi Jim, add me to the list of Rainers who agree with you, 700 board members is overkill.  Glad to see this featured and hope you get point for Debe's NAR challenge.  As for a membership increase - let's audit them and find out how the dollars are being spent first. 

Jun 16, 2018 07:25 AM
Jim Paulson

Thanks Debb Janes EcoBroker and Bernie Stea JD 


I will be writing a new blog for the challenge to include a few other suggestions for NAR.  

Jun 16, 2018 09:24 AM
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

Excellent post, Jim.   

  The NRA needs a complete and total overhaul.   The "700 Directors" is absurd... and I would venture that it is a facade, to convince local Boards and Associations that somehow they have input and control over this behemoth.  

   Janis Borgueta mentioned the AMA not representing its members.  The same can be said for other political activists/hogs at the feeding trough like AARP.   But this holds especially true for NAR.  They are completely out of touch with the members, and they do not care.  

 

      Final thought - add an image, even the Realtor logo, to this post, so that it can be entered into the current "You are the CEO of NAR - What Will You Change" contest.  Post a link to it on that contest page, thank you.

Jun 16, 2018 07:47 AM
Jim Paulson

 Thanks Fred Griffin I appreciate your support.


I think the leadership is trying, but they are probably too busy trying to manage the ever changing composition of that large of a board that they don't have time to work on the changing composition of our industry.


I will be writing a different blog for the challenge that is more geared for that.  I only have two weeks.

Jun 16, 2018 09:29 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

The answer to better food is more chefs in the kitchen....?  Really?

Jun 16, 2018 07:58 AM
Jim Paulson

Richie Alan Naggar great analogy.  However, apparently the American Culinary Federation is the largest professional chef's organization in North America and yet their (cutting) board consists of ten members.

Jun 16, 2018 09:35 AM
Debra Leisek
Bay Realty,Inc Homer Alaska - Homer, AK

it would be nice to think there are 700 board members helping make decisons that affect us on every level local, state and National.... but we know that is not true

How many boards are there across the nation?  In Alaska we had 8 but common core killed one so we have 7 boards and 1 state board... cant imagine how many boards all together but i am pretty sure most of them have no input into NAR agenda at all 

 

Jun 16, 2018 11:13 AM
Jim Paulson

Debra Leisek there are currently 1,165 local associations according to NAR's website.  I predict more consolidation in # of associations and MLS's over the next decade.

Jun 16, 2018 03:06 PM
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

Correction:  I just found the exact number on NAR's website.

2018 Board of Directors

Appointments:  923 

I will be updating the blog above accordingly.

Jun 16, 2018 03:08 PM
Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

Very good post my friend, great observations. Are you participating to Debe Maxwell's contest? You should write up an entry.... and one more thing for NAR to fix.

Jun 18, 2018 07:22 AM
Jim Paulson

Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR thanks.  I didn't know about the contest when I wrote this so I will be focusing on it and writing up something for it since there are a few other things I would do if I was the CEO of NAR.

Jun 18, 2018 07:27 AM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

It might be kind of shaky ground but it’s worth standing up for something you believe in if you believe in an articulate way.

Jun 21, 2018 11:26 PM
Jim Paulson

Laura Cerrano , if we don't stand up for what we believe in, we are left to wallow in the wake of what others cared enough to stand up for.

Jun 22, 2018 05:59 AM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR I agree! Very well thought out but also very tricky and it’s hard to do that.

Jun 21, 2018 11:28 PM