The general public comes to us to educate them during their buying process. In certain parts of the country, planned communities might not be as popular as they are here in SW Florida and having an education about those communities is a vital part of your job. I worked with the largest builder in the US for some time and one of the biggest mistakes I saw was when the agent brought their clients in and didn't preview the product before showing it.

There are sometimes fees associated with communities that are not just limited to Home Owners Fees (HOA). In quite a few developments around our area they also have a CDD (Community Development Fees), and in some cases extra "hook up" fees that can add up over the years of home ownership and sometimes drastically change the cost of the home.

For those who are unfamiliar with a CDD, this is a fee that is charged by the county for doing all or part of the infrastructures of the community which could include bringing all utilities to the project, installing sidewalks and roads and also the maintenance for these items. The county does this at the request of the developer  to minimize the infrastructure cost to that builder, the county in turns adds the cost broken down to each home site and will attach a separate tax on to that home owners tax bill, this is known as a non-ad valorem tax. In several communities in SW Florida these extras alone could cost an additional $1600 per year and these numbers are based on a 30 year note because the county places the amount owed on a 30 year bond (if it was $1600 per year that is an additional cost of $48,000 on the amount if the home).

In other cases there might be irrigation hook up fees and capital contributions fees that could also add up. One developer that I know of charges a $800 one time hook up fee to their irrigation system (mandatory), now for some that might not seem like a lot for most buyers out there they do not want to see these types of extra charges.

Also be careful of master and condo association fees, more fees equals more cost per month and these costs can add up. Some in our area can cost very easily up to $800 per month when you add them all up, between the master HOA, condo HOA and various other "fees".

I am not here to slam these developments and try to convince your clients to buy in scattered lots throughout your areas. Almost all of these developments offer beautiful amenities and views that might not be available in other parts of your town. But as they say there is a home for everybody, so as some people might not want to live in these communities others desire it. Bottom line is education and the more you know the better your referrals will be from those happy clients.

In closing I would recommend at least making a phone call to the builders on site sales agents and inquiring about what "extra fees" might be associated with these developments if any. It is better to educate your clients prior to wasting their time with a product that in the long run could cost them more than they are willing to spend in today's market.

Please comment and share on this blog as the only was to better ourselves is through communication and education.

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10 Comments on Watch out for hidden fees in communities!

Bill - interesting how different things are in different areas.  Here, the builder and developer must pay impact fees and hook up fees before the home can be built.  However, irrigation systems are not often included, so the homeowner may want to be aware of those.  But as far as extra fees, the only things I'm aware of are HOA fees (which are noted in the MLS), and mainly "optional" community fees that allow access to community pools and other amenities. 

$800 a month in fees can certainly put a damper on affordability.

05/28/2008 06:16 AM by Stanton Homes - Penny Hull: Raleigh Area Custom Home Builder (Stanton Homes Inc - Raleigh Custom Homes)


Good morning Bill-- enjoyed your post. Very interesting indeed. Thank you for sharing this information and enjoy your day.

05/28/2008 06:19 AM by C Tann-Starr (TannStarr.com REMAX People Realty)


Morning Bill,

Points well stated! We usually encourage listing all associated fees on the sellers disclosure. As we tour areas with cllients we also point out fees associated with the area. All associated fees are reviewed with a buyer prior to making a purchase offer. That's just the way we do it here in SCC. 

05/28/2008 06:53 AM by Harold (Hal) Place (A1 Connection Realty, Inc.)


Morning Bill,

Points well stated! We usually encourage listing all associated fees on the sellers disclosure. As we tour areas with cllients we also point out fees associated with the area. All associated fees are reviewed with a buyer prior to making a purchase offer. That's just the way we do it here in SCC. 

05/28/2008 06:53 AM by Harold (Hal) Place (A1 Connection Realty, Inc.)


Hi Bill ... it's important to be accurate when it comes to fees that impact buyers.  They do not need any surprises.

05/28/2008 07:41 AM by Marie Meyer (Light Realty LLC, Goshen, NY)


Hey Bill~ It never ceases to amaze me at how Developers and Government seem to zing home owners every little creative way they can !

05/28/2008 10:34 AM by DOUG FRITCHIE-Silver Legacy Properties,Inc.


Hey Bill, thanks for the information regarding those extra fees. I can't believe that people don't know about these up front.

05/28/2008 11:02 AM by Matthew Zgonc, REALTORĀ® for Modesto, CA (ERA Village One Real Estate)


Good Post Bill,

The community should try to get the info out to the agents in the area.  It wastes everyones time when someone who can't qualify is brought in.

 

All the best!

05/28/2008 11:36 AM by Kevin O'Shea, White Plains, NY Real Estate (Homes of Westchester, Inc.)


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