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Bathroom & Kitchen Leaks- Responsible Condo Living in Hawaii

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Real Estate Agent with Liberty Homes RS-#62825

 

Ah, the luxury of living in a townhouse complex with neighbors above and on the side of me. (I'm currently rethinking this) I longed for a nice little townhouse with a small fenced in courtyard for my English Cocker Spaniel and we have managed to upgrade with nice vinyl tempered glass sliding doors and windows, and got it to just how we want it.

Well, remember the  Condo/Townhouse Living in Hawaii..........and A Water Leak where my bathroom leak ended up in a total restoration of bath/shower/walls? 

I have been happy these last few months since I no longer have to worry about fiberglass cheapy bathtubs and a leaking shower behind a fiberglass wall. I've had my beautiful ceramic tile walls, bathtub and all new plumbing. Luxury! 

Now what?  Last night we were getting ready for bed and Gary went in the kitchen and started saying...oh 'shucks'. I ran in and saw leaking from the ceiling and through our lighting fixture.

Drip, drip, drip.

Gary runs upstairs and no one answers. He calls and she says, "Oh, yeah. I told the landlord a week ago that the floor was buckling and there was a leak". Uh, and...and! AND!

If you live in a townhouse or apartment complex and there is a leak you do something about it ASAP, lest you damage other units below or on the side of you and be liable for damages.

These are tenants above us. Sometimes, people just don't care because it's not theirs. Sometimes, common sense just doesn't phase them.

I asked her, "Why didn't you tell us this a week ago?" She says, "Oh, we figured you'd let us know".

From these pictures, wouldn't you say I found out the hard way????? 

The resident manager calls us around 12am and walks us through shutting off their water upstairs. And...she threatens to call the police. HUH? Who cares about our falling ceiling. Who cares about mold, mildew and electrical fixtures that are leaking water. Who cares? I DO!

 

Our ceiling is torn apart, mildew is apparent (after a week of leaking!) and the tenant is only worried about having their water on.

Did the plumber find the leak? Oh, NO. But here's our number if it starts again....and uh, if you find out who is reponsible ..they can fix your ceiling.

 

 

 

There will always be problems with a townhouse or condo but just be prepared to take the appropriate course of action. EVEN IF YOU'RE a TENANT be responsible and don't wait a week to tell your neighbor!

The following are the steps we took from 11pm to 1:30am:

  • Immediately call security and the resident manager (in our case the resident manager was on vacation :) but security came right away and the resident manager got our message and called back within an hour.
  • Shut off the water and put a bowl or bucket to catch dripping water. (if it's a pipe burst well...that's that) If you have a separate meter for each unit and you know where it's coming from all the better.
  • Even if it's not your fault call your insurance company so they're aware. They'll be able to contact the responsible party's insurance company to get your damage taken care of.
  • Contact your Maintenance Company for the Association and your complex. In our case the 'emergency' contact for management was on duty and called back promptly.

I had been responsible through MY bathroom leak (Hawaii Townhouse Living... Responsible Homeowners Take Steps to Protect and notified everyone so neighbors would not have damage from us. I had hoped for the same if it ever happened to anyone else. NO SUCH LUCK.

Sometimes, you just have to take matters into your own hands to protect your other neighbors from further damage. Even if they don't care....doesn't mean you can't be a responsible individual in your community.

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Celeste "Sally" Cheeseman is a Realtor-Associate with Century 21 Liberty Homes in Mililani, Hawaii. With a sharp understanding that a listening ear is the key to a client's needs  she serves the island of Oahu (Honolulu County) and all Hawaii Military Relocating to Hawaii, Hawaii Retirees, Hawaii Job Transfers and Hawaii Residents. Website: www.hawaiihomesmarket.com

  

 

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Celeste "Sally" Cheeseman  is a Realtor-Associate® and Certified Residential Specialist (CRS) with Century 21 Liberty Homes in Mililani, Hawaii. With a sharp understanding that a listening ear is the key to a client's needs  she serves the island of Oahu (Honolulu County) and all Hawaii Military Relocations, Hawaii Retirees, Hawaii Job Transfers and Hawaii Residents, Home Buyers and Sellers.

 

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Comments(35)

Kelly Sibilsky
Licensed Through Referral Connection, LTD. - Lake Zurich, IL

What a bummer! Leaks can be so hard to find because they don't always travel in a logical fashion but can shimmy along before finally succumbing to gravity. We had to rip up a large portion of our kitchen ceilng 2 years ago to find the leak that was coming from our master bathroom upstairs. It's such a pain to have to fix, patch, sand and paint...I feel for you!

May 30, 2008 12:57 AM
Teri Eckholm
Boardman Realty - White Bear Lake, MN
REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro

Sally--No matter where you live you cannot pick your neighbors and trust them to do the right thing. Obviously you were a good neighbor when you had a plumbing problem...Sad that you weren't didn't receive similar consideration when the shoe was on the other foot. Hopefully your post will save others on both ends of similar situations headaches.

Leaks and other problems are going to happen. Being a responsible homeowner and empathatic neighbor is the right thing to do!

Hope that all your water troubles are behind you soon! :)

May 30, 2008 01:55 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Gary: I am sooo mad. The 'plumber' didn't find a leak...all we know is someone isn't telling the whole story and all we know is the whole oak floor in the kitchen is soaked and soaked our ceiling!

May 30, 2008 03:58 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Kathy: Hey...but it's a new day... the hole allowed it to dry...and we'll get to the bottom of this yet.

Neal: It sure is...and consumers who are purchasing OR renting really need to take heed to being responsible and reporting damage so other units don't get damaged ..... they WILL be liable for damages etc.

May 30, 2008 04:01 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Kelly: Well, nothing else has happened. For the amount of water there had to be some kind of overflow from something. Those wood floors upstairs are totaled!

Teri:  Sooner or later I'm going to get tired of this and get a one story townhouse :)

May 30, 2008 04:04 AM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

Sally - This is a real mess! Even after the leak is taken care of, there is the mold problem.....I know here in Florida it can take over!!! Do keep us updated! Good luck to you!

May 30, 2008 04:15 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Sis - What a mess indeed.  I'm bookmarking this because I think this is a good post for all homeowners and potential homeowners as a resource on steps one can take.  Let everyone know how it turns out.

May 30, 2008 07:05 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Barbara Jo and Lil Bro:

The owner just called ...he is back in Hawaii (he was in Japan until this am) and will be checking it out...he agrees....some just don't have commmon sense.

Some need written instructions.

Some need to own their own so they know what it's like to care.

 

May 30, 2008 07:16 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Sally water leaks can be a nightmare even in a house.  Hope they get fixed for you soon, maybe by the next blog :)

May 30, 2008 07:36 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Thanks George....I just worry about mold...the ceiling can be fixed....it seems all dry right now...and i'll go spray clorox in there tonight. Don't want anyone covering over potential spores....sounds like a sci-fi movie hahaha.

May 30, 2008 08:30 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Good news the owner is back.....and that it's dry. 

May 30, 2008 10:56 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Hey Kathy: I'm so tired..no sleep two nights ago...working my behind cleaning all the crap up and work all day today ..... weekend. Oh, yeah right. Home Inspection tomorrow and Open House on Sunday.

May 30, 2008 11:47 AM
Thesa Chambers
West + Main - Bend, OR
Principal Broker - Licensed in Oregon

Sally - this sucks - I am sorry you once again have to go through this.... keep us posted.... but I am sure you will :o)

May 30, 2008 05:38 PM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS

Plumbing leaks can be problems - so sorry you're having one again.

1) Local condo owner is suing his association because the association won't pay for repairs to water damage that was obviously his fault and not the common fault.

2) A new house I sold had problems in the master bathtub - at the walkthrough we saw it wasn't grouted properly and had them fix it. Then water started coming through the chandelier in the dining room below the bedroom - massive fix of plumbing, sheetrock, painting.  The it happened again. The builder thought the owners were letting the tub overflow. Finally builder took the tub all the way out, and discovered that the supports weren't properly sized so they bent, which brought the tub down, which broke the seals, which caused the leaks ....  rebuilt the support structure, replaced the plumbing, reset the tub, regrouted, redid the sheetrock, the pain ... and it's been fine since.

May 31, 2008 08:40 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Thesa: I'm sure I will too....:) Thanks

Sharon:  We have mold. We smell, see it and pulled more ceiling off....now the owner upstairs is coming to tear up the floor upstairs...it's an isolated incident.   This was over a week ago...the tenant said she noticed it then....and nothing since it came through our ceiling.

MOLD.  My main concern. The ceiling can be fixed easy. There's MOLD now. Black stinky MOLD.

Hey...can you tell I'm not having a good day?  MOLD.

May 31, 2008 10:21 AM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

I should have read this post first. Then I would have know what was going on. The leaks may be because they those cheap valves, Ask and be sure to change yours. They cause a lot of problems. I would guess you have had the management company over. This may be big, so get some qualified help ( and you know what I am referring to here) and don't try to handle this yourself. OK?

May 31, 2008 01:50 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Sally- This is so unacceptable and a lack of courtery, respect and full of irresponsibility on the part of the tenants. I am sorry you are going through this, not like you already went through this before. What were the police being called for?

May 31, 2008 02:04 PM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

That's okay William. Oh, no....insurance adjuster is coming to save the day...they don't want to pay out if it's not our fault...they'll investigate. :)

Katerina: That's what I say.  Because the water was turned off... :)

May 31, 2008 02:24 PM
Michael S. Mackey
CENTURY 21 All Islands - Mililani, HI
REALTOR ABR, CRS, GRI, RSPS

I am heading over to my listing to survey the water damage; the tanat nbever bothered to tell anyone they had leakage around the tub, now the moisture is seeping up the wall through the plasterboard. AArrrggghhh!!!!!!

Jun 01, 2008 08:17 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

Mike: Isn't that the case???? Some respect others property....some don't give a hoot. Our bathroom had pipe leaking...had to tear everything out and just did a new bath...this was in December. Now look.

Jun 01, 2008 09:06 AM