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In Real Estate (many times),Those Who Can't Do, Teach

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Those Who Can't Do, Teach

 

 

     As someone that once aspired to be a teacher, it pains me to write the title of this post.  As a member of the real estate industry, though, I find it necessary to point out some things that bother me about our industry.

 

 

     The best - the VERY best - in the mortgage and real estate businesses clear $1,000,000/year income.  The good make 6 figures.  While that's a generic statement and doesn't capture the complete pictures of ups, downs, personal experiences, those new to the industry, those close to retirement, etc, the point remains clear - if you're good at what you do and you know how to run your business, the real estate industry can be lucrative.

 

 

     So when I see a crop of professionals that have never earned at those levels teaching the next generation of professionals, or professionals struggling to get to those levels, I find it disheartening to see the amount of money being dumped into teachers that aren't teaching reality.  Those teaching you how to do more real estate business that have never sold a home or navigated a client from prospect to home owner.  The mortgage "gurus" who haven't done a loan since before the real estate crash in 2008, and have no idea how to get a loan done in an era when a client needs more than a pulse to get approved.

 

 

     Are you paying thousands of dollars for someone to robo-post social media content for you?  Are you paying someone overseas to provide you with content (that, like the agent I sued, was doing for content that was being pirated from other real professionals)?  Are you struggling to close a minimal number of transactions, but paying to get more "likes" on social media, or more of an audience?

 

 

     Well here's the secret (I'm giving it to you for free).  Most people are focusing on the wrong things when they want to grow their business (or heck, even find that first taste of success), and the 'gurus' and teachers out there will never tell you this.  Take a look at the pyramid here.  From the bottom up, you have what I've learned over a dozen years to be the most important things for business growth, with the least important being at the top.  Has the industry changed?  Yup.  Has social media become more important?  Yup.  Do some people run entire businesses off of purchased leads?  Yup.  Does that change my mind?  BusinessSuccessPyramidNope!

 

 

     Bottom line, there's no magic potion, silver bullet, or easy shortcut to success in the real estate industry or any industry.  For those making money off the tip of the pyramid, the message is the opposite:  For just $99, we'll teach you how to use Instagram to grow an audience!  For just $149/month, you'll have access to over 1,000 classes that you'll never implement anything from!  For just $5  $10  $15 $80 per lead, you can use Zulia to run your business!  That's what you'll hear from the tip of the pyramid, but the success truly lies in everything below it.  

 

 

     If you're not a seasoned pro making a good living, turn your pyramid upside down.  If you don't know how to successfully navigate a client through the process, leaving them with happy feelings and appreciation for your services, don't worry about your database marketing - you won't have a database and people darn sure won't be referring you and coming back with their future business.  If you don't have a process and workflow in place to manage incoming leads, follow up with them, and convert them to new clients WITHOUT taking up your entire week's focus, then don't worry about buying leads.  You won't be able to close them.

 

 

     Most teachers today - the latests and greatest trying to dip into your pockets via their facebook ads and calls to action - aren't going to tell you that the true secret is to get really good at what you do and how you do it, and THEN you focus on the tip of the pyramid (that's what takes a successful, good earner to the top of the mountain).  That stuff is important, but it's important proportionately to it's place in the pyramid.  You can't get to the top without it, but you can't get away from the bottom without the other pieces to the puzzle.

 

 

     Shift your focus, ignore the gurus, the teachers, and the latest bells and whistles.  Get to work.  Put in the time to learn, and know you'll need time to grow.  But while you're building your foundation, ignore the bells and whistles.  Turn away from the shiny objects.  Keep focused.  Build your pyramid from the ground up, and when you get to the top, you'll see performance and profit you may have only dreamed of.

 

 

Note:  If you can't see the pyramid content here, it is (in order of importance from bottom to top): Knowledge & Skillset, Processes/Workflows, Database Management, and then all the other "stuff" (shown here are Social Media, 3rd party services/vendors, and paid leads)

 

Note:  If you can't read the pyramid here, the layers (from bottom up in order of importance) are:  Knowledge and Skillset, Processes/Workflow, Database Management, and then the rest of the "stuff" (shown here are Social Media, 3rd Party Services, and Paid Leads)
Note:  If you can't read the pyramid here, the layers (from bottom up in order of importance) are:  Knowledge and Skillset, Processes/Workflow, Database Management, and then the rest of the "stuff" (shown here are Social Media, 3rd Party Services, and Paid Leads)

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Comments(27)

Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

"So when I see a crop of professionals that have never earned at those levels teaching the next generation of professionals, or professionals struggling to get to those levels, I find it disheartening to see the amount of money being dumped into teachers that aren't teaching reality." 

I couldn't agree with that statement more, John!  Add to it, they often label themselves as experts, and go on the seminar chain! 

Jan 27, 2019 03:14 PM
John Meussner

Exactly, Myrl --- the "experts" would be making more money if they were as good at what they're preaching as those they're selling to : )

Jan 28, 2019 12:59 PM
Amanda S. Davidson
Amanda Davidson Real Estate Group Brokered By Real - Alexandria, VA
Alexandria Virginia Homes For Sale

John, I'm not sure if it's just that I pay more attention because I keep getting coaching "offers" or if it really has increased but, my perception lately is that there's a coach or social media guru on every corner. I can't imagine hiring a coach who has less experience/sales than I do yet, I see agents do it daily. 

Jan 28, 2019 06:57 AM
John Meussner

Me too, Amanda S. Davidson , doesn't seem like the best use of funds and from what I've seen usually delays success.

Jan 28, 2019 12:58 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

John loved, loved this post and the headline was spot on, I have always said to Diane, we would be so much better off financially if I just thought courses of how to do real estate... less stress and thousands of people would come because they all wanted to hear the "magic bullet" to solve the day to day struggles.... What I am missing from your post is the coveted Gold Star AKA the Featured Post...Endre

Feb 25, 2019 10:50 PM
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

Good morning, John Meussner I LOVE THIS POST.... and agree with you 100%... good stuff here and it reminds me of "old school"....there is no magic bullet to succeed in the real estate business... find what works for you and work it...market like you mean it....and that marketing for ME is not limited to online...it's online and offline... networking (another old school method) is critical...it's not what you know, it's who you know that shoves you to the top....but you MUST know the business,too...that's a MUST... both are required...knowing the right people and having a clear understanding of the business.... golden!!

Mar 02, 2019 06:43 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi John - finding that "magic bullet" in any endeavor is only exceeded by the number trying to "market the secret sauce".

Mar 02, 2019 07:37 AM
Stephen Turner
House Broker Realty - York, PA
The BIG Guy of NEW HOME SALES

What a great and timely message. GET TO WORK! Love it.

Here I was thinking I was crazy for telling all those tele-marketers off who try to peddle their leads and systems. Was I crazy? Should I try them? Never did before but maybe I should? Did they know something I didn't? The ANSWER IS NO!

Keep improving myself and my service. Focus on what has worked and keep doing it CONSISTENTLY. Thanks for keeping me focused.  

Mar 02, 2019 09:00 AM
Paul Dougherty Associate Real Estate Broker
Howard Hanna / Coach Realtors - Huntington, NY
Trusted, Tested & True. Our Results are Better!

Good Information Indeed, and  I agree. 

Mar 02, 2019 09:11 AM
Mike McCann Nebraska Land Broker
Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska - Kearney, NE
Farm & Commercial Property For Sale 308-627-3700

My former partner who made a couple dozen tons of money as an agent almost only teaches people how to earn their license in Destin, FL.

He made more money in his career than most agents I have ever met...including me.

He "retired to Florida" and now teaches there, as well as sells condos in the building that his unit is located in.

Not thinking he is hurting as he turned down a million dollar referral from me a few months ago.

As for me...a large part of my business comes from social media.  

I do agree to not buy leads...usually a waste of your money.

Thanks for sharing!

Mar 02, 2019 10:15 AM
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

As a 7 figure agent I have designed courses to share what I have learned over 29 years and that includes the screw ups. What I don’t like is ego oriented gurus who teach their way is the only way.

Mar 02, 2019 02:40 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

After a few years of attending our national brokerage conventions I was convinced the path to big bucks wasn't directly in real estate, but selling stuff to agents.  Attend presentation, and then...THE PITCH.  Buy this for $99, or 599 or 1099.  Or you'd put two and two together and realize mega-agent had a great year or two, but it wasn't duplicative in our local market (not a lot of canals with ocean access here in Ohio).

Paying for leads I know doesn't fit my business style.  I cannot be dual career AND be on the hook to call someone within 5 minutes or they're on to the next agent.

So I'll keep working what I know works for me.   Blogging niches and finding buyers (and the occasional seller) that need what I know and what I can do well.  Bill

Mar 02, 2019 03:24 PM
James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

Morning John.

I would have missed this if Barbara Todaro, hadn't re-blogged it.  Great, just wonderful, thanks

Mar 03, 2019 12:41 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Ahhh...if only there were magic...lots of high tech assistance in our industry best combined with diligence.

Mar 03, 2019 03:21 AM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

There are a lot of get-rich-quick-schemes out there. Actually being the person who gets referrals happens due to hard work, knowing the business, and putting clients first (not paying $xx/month for the next best thing).

Mar 03, 2019 03:23 AM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Good morning John.  I saw Barbara Todaro reblog this post.  I have often wondered why some people work so hard for limited returns telling others how they can be millionaires.

Mar 03, 2019 06:39 AM
Jim Harper
Atlanta Communities Real Estate - Marietta, GA

Wow,  John Meussner! Don't know what exactly what tripped your trigger, but I enjoyed the results: "but you can't get away from the bottom without the other pieces to the puzzle." Thank you for the post and thank you Barbara Todaro for reblogging. 

Mar 05, 2019 07:54 PM
Amy Christiansen
Christiansen Real Estate - Gunnison, UT
Residential Real Estate/ Land

I enjoyed your post.  I have been an agent for 3 years, still learning, still growing.  I am constantly getting offers for coaching, etc.  Not only are those coaches way out of my budget but I know there is not a one size fits all approach to any business.  There are the basics and there is how you utilize those to fit your needs, your area, your strengths.  I try to learn what I can from those around me that have had success in the field and use that knowledge to fit with my personality and my strengths.  I will always be learning and growing but right now is not the time for a paid coach.  I would rather have my mentors. 

Mar 06, 2019 09:13 AM
Mary Hutchison, SRES, ABR
Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate-Kansas City Homes - Kansas City, MO
Experienced Agent in Kansas City Metro area

Amen.  I remember through the years how so many pp told me to 'try this workshop' or 'follow this program' and even the brokerages have pp teaching that haven't sold a house in 15 years!  Nothing works as well as your fellow agents, watching them talking with them and then adapting to what fits your personality

Mar 06, 2019 11:01 AM
Anonymous
Tom Phelan

There are Teachers/Gurus whose single goal is to sell you a product for $$$.

There are Teachers who truly wish to expand your knowledge with subjects that are unfortunately partially or totally unknown to many Realtors®.

Two examples are knowledge about 1031 Exchanging and using an IRA to buy real estate.

A knowledgeable 1031 Exchange Realtor® serves two important purposes:

1. Save a client a bundle in taxes. Case in point, I know a Realtor® who listed and sold an investment property for $2.6 million. She never even suggested the owner check with an Intermediary about 1031 Exchanging. Luckily I directed the Owner to a 1031 Exchange Intermediary and although the deal was complicated, e.g. a dissolving Partnership, an exchange was a definite option.

2. Using an IRA or Individual 401(k) to purchase investment property. This should be the Holy Grail for Realtors® to build their own financial portfolio and act as consultants to clients and prospective clients. Unfortunately Wall Street with its 95% share of the six trillion dollars v 35 for Real Estate in IRAs is proof positive that NAR isn't performing its educational job.

Just how many Realtors® have an IRA or Individual 401(k) that owns real estate is unknown but the $$$ amount is sure to be embarrassing.


I teach both and I am certified to offer CE Credits.

Mar 07, 2019 06:07 AM
#25
Anonymous
Tom Phelan

Sorry but very important, real estate comprises a mere estimated 3 - 4% of the six trillion dollars in IRAs,

Mar 07, 2019 06:13 AM
#26
Ben Yost - 303-587-4297
First Time Home Buyer, Mortgage Rates, Pre-Approval - Denver, CO
FHA, VA, Conventional - Mortgage Loans in De

Great post! Most of what a lot of these people teach can be googled or found on UDEMY for $12.00 on sale.

Mar 11, 2019 10:33 AM