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I am hearing a lot of chatter that agents are frustrated that the national aggregator/lead generation sites, like homes.com, realtor.com, realestate.yahoo.com, citysearch, trulia, etc., are dominating the first page of search results (SERPs).

Often, this is accompanied by "conspiracy theory" talk, or just plain old resignation, as in "that's the way it is".  

NOT THE CASE, folks.

Site owners who DO THE RIGHT THINGS in terms of search optimization generally displace these various "lead generation" sites (the big boys) from the first page of Google. I will provide a couple of real examples, below.

In fact, I use all of this as very good "rule of thumb" indicator to determine the "local market" competitive situation for a particular community. If the top ten Google results for the term "Town ST real estate" are nearly all the lead generation consolidator sites, I know immediately that few, if any, local agents are taking their search optimization seriously, if at all. It's then wide open territory for ANY local agent (new, old, male, female, indy, full-time, part-time, rich, not so rich, etc.) to drive a truck through it.

If the top ten results are mostly local agents, then it's a dogfight that's going to take real effort to compete. Phoenix, for instance. In that community, the lead gen sites have been almost entirely
displaced from the first page. If there was a conspiracy, then the big boys would demand to have Phoenix for themselves. Yet, they can't really seem to compete there.

Alternatively, if you look at first page Google search results for "Green Bay WI real estate", it's loaded up with lead gen sites. My bet is that few agents in Green Bay have done much of anything to rank well. If they had, they would. Heads up, Green Bay.

Here's the reason...A locally focused site has a much better opportunity to focus on the terms that matter to them. This includes page structure, content structure, depth and breadth of content, and most importantly, the link anchor text on links pointing back to the site. The search engine algorithms have been designed to reward this focus. The goal is to deliver the most focused content for a particular search term. They do not reward "big boys" for the sake of big.

The big sites rank well in a specific community search due to a lack of competition. When the engines can't find a site that is well optimized and focused for a particular term, they default to the "next best thing". Each of these consolidator sites has a single page about a particular community, and they have enough link popularity to their entire domain to drive that single page to the first page of the search results. It's weak competition out ranking no competition.

Please take this fictitious example that follows as an attempt at constructive criticism that might help some of you....A search engine cannot reward an agent for having page title tags that read "Your #1
TOP TEAM Agent for ten years - The Jane Doe Century/MAX Group". In terms of search optimization, that kind of title tag on a page has virtually no traffic value. Yet, I see agent sites structured like this everywhere I look. Those sites will NEVER rank well for their own "Town ST real estate" search rankings. The lead gen sites will.

There are still hundreds of such communities in the USA, right now, in which the lead gen sites still dominate the first page of results. What baffles me is why this is the case, fifteen years into the WWW.
Honestly, the real estate industry, by and large, is still in a massive state of denial in terms of search marketing. if someone can explain that to me, please do.

Fixing it is the single most important thing that an agent can do for themselves, in terms of overall marketing for their agency, going forward. The Web IS where real estate marketing takes place these
days. Good search results are not even all that expensive or complicated to arrange. How this wide-open opportunity is ignored in this industry so consistently is just baffling.

Agents who have done the right things, and use the WWW effectively, are, by and large, managing this downturn. Just look at who is closing deals in your own community *right now* (not two years ago),
and look at their search rankings.

Agents, take control....Here's a multi-page document that was specifically written for real estate professionals, using real estate examples:
Search Engine Optimization Basics For Real Estate-Related Websites
http://www.domaindrivers.com/seobasics-realestate-main.htm

 

 

 

 
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31 Comments on Why the "Lead Generator" sites dominate YOUR local search results!

Hi Dirk,

Very interesting observations!  In your Phoenix example: What search phrases are you using to verify that local agents are winning?  Also, which search engines did you check?

06/02/2008 11:10 AM by Not Yet Licensed


Not Yet Licensed: I used "Phoenix AZ real estate", but you can use other similar Phoenix terms to get the same result, in Google. Similar conditions exist in MSN/Live and Yahoo searches, as well.

06/02/2008 11:15 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


How right you are. I am sure you noticed on my blog today about being the 2nd name on the first page for GOOGLE for my search terms that I am currently displacing Yahoo themselves and the the only name above me is Homes.com... Your point about page titles and tags is well said. Get your search terms in every blessed place you can! Put them in the body of your text, have anchor text, have good solid back-links(I think I have 500 or so currently), new content that really does relate to your terms and watch your site rise. However, GOOGLE does seem to change what they like often! As for reciprocal links, I stay away from them mostly...a couple here and there...

06/02/2008 11:35 AM by Brentwood TN Real Estate/Homes - Vanessa Stalets REALTORĀ® (RE/MAX Elite)


Congrats Vanessa!

That's a remarkable achievement.  How long did it take you to get those results? 

By the way, this is probably not a major problem, but your blog won't load for me.  Now that you have such a high ranking, you must be getting lots of traffic!  That's a good problem to have.  :)

06/02/2008 11:49 AM by Not Yet Licensed


It is taking a lot of monitoring. My posts have not moved my actual website up. In fact the site itself has fallen back a few slots in the last couple days.

Several AR blog posts have moved up close to the lead sites. My highest is page 3. My hope is that I have been doing this only since May 8. Maybe I'll get better.

Still not ready to trust the link sites.

And have not yet learned exactly what an  anchor text is? I have seen the tab for anchor text in the link boxes, but not sure what they are.

Thanks.,

Richard 

06/02/2008 08:12 PM by Richard Smith Mortgages Home Loans FHA TN GA AL (American Acceptance Mortgage, Inc)


Another Great Article Dirk, I have to agree with you.  Consistently working towards a Search Engine Placement is one of the highest return on investments a realtor can make.  My wife's site pushes 30000 unique visitors a year.  Our trading area is 100000.  Her exposure is through the roof, her leads are great and she does deals from her site. 

Assume 10 closed deals from her traffic a year(she does more, but I don't want to let the cat out of the bag on her) her average deal here is $180000 at 2.5% that's $4500 x 10 = $45000 in gross commission.  Can you imagine the ROI on that.  Her placement has held for years, and yes we do consistent work to it and we also use Google Adwords, Yahoo, and MSN Adcenter.  It's WAY more profitable than any print ad or postcard campaign we have ever done.

We still run offline campaigns, like farming, newsletters, just listed and just sold postcards, because it's all about growing the database, building the relationship, and working for repeat and referral business.  But for new businesses, the internet(specifically our effort from Google) provides the most new leads next to referrals.

You can see her old site I had created, and her new site I based on Wordpress.

Great Post Dirk!

06/03/2008 01:55 AM by marketing-real-estate.com


Richard:

Thanks for posting. Anchor text is the "hot linked" portion of a link.  In the example below:
Web Directory Links, "Web Directory Links" is the anchor text.

The use of the word anchor comes from the HTML language, where an anchor is, effectively, a link to another place on the WWW. At times, anchor text is also referred to as the link "title", but that is technically incorrect. The HTML anchor tag has a separate title attribute. But that is nit picking.

The search engines (especially Google), review the anchor text of links and use them in their alogrithm.  So, if you have a loot of liks that say "My Town ST real etate" on other websites (and within your own site), and they point to pages structured to be about "My Town ST real etate", then that represents both good link popularity, and a good correaltion between the links and the page.

if you wantto know more, here's a multi-page document that was specifically written for real estate professionals, using real estate examples:
Search Engine Optimization Basics For Real Estate-Related Websites

 

06/03/2008 08:35 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Tom, at marketing-real-estate.com:

Your experience is common. Very common, from what we hear from agents who take the WWW seriously.

Then why the huge disconnect with so many agents? We're fifteen years into the WWW. It's not new.

I find it astonishing that tens of thousands of agents seem to be completely ignoring this one area of marketing growth that is working well for people like you and your wife. Especially in the current market climate.

Will agetns that steadfastly continue to ignore using the WWW effectively survive? A certain percentage will, but what about the rest. Will they simply move on to another career? Or finally get serious about being a real etate agent in 2008?

06/03/2008 08:43 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


good post, interesting observations....online presense is huge in this business

06/08/2008 07:15 PM by Bryan Flynn Central Mass and Worcester Mortgages (Wells Fargo Home Mortgage)


Dirk, you have pointed out a problem that can be traced back to the industry's unwillingness to be transparent, share MLS information, and in general it's domination of what they have always felt was proprietary information.

The real estate industry did not understand nor measure the amount of consumer angst and anger over their being shut out of the information sharing aspect of real estate.

When the Realtor.com and Zillow's of the world figured out that consumers would take any scrap of information, no matter how inaccurate, a new industry was born: lead gen.

Today Realtors scoff at Zillow and the sites you mention while they themselves attempt to compete online for placement.

Yet the way Google algorithm is set up one of the most prominent factors in placement is "seasoning" or how long a blog has been established.

Another problem is that most Realtors or brokers do NOT understand the difference between a long tail search ex- "San Francisco Pacific Heights buyers agents" vs Short Head searches ex- "San Francisco Realtors."

The culmination of all of the power the lead gen sites wield now is that Realtors that do NOT establish stand alone blogs, not active rain blogs, aimed at capturing their location long tail keyword phrases will never catch up to the lead gen sites in Google searches for their most desired searches.

 

06/10/2008 09:08 AM by Dean Guadagni (Inner Architect; Inner Architect Media)


@Dean -

Thanks. I agree with you that the local agent market has, by and large, surrendered to the lead gen sites. It's obvious, in the SERPs. 

As you point out, they CAN do something about it. We see it every day. Google actually prefers a well-focused, well-optimized multi-page site with a good foundation of links, over the "single page" about that town from the lead gen sites.

The only reason that the lead gen sites do well is by default. There are not enough local agents doing the right thing to displace them.

If agents do the right things, they can succeed. If agents do nothing, then yes, they will be forever frustrated with search results.  

06/11/2008 08:32 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Well said, Dirk

06/11/2008 10:28 AM by


@Dean -

Thanks... Well said, but more importantly, when do agents begin the process of doing something about it? 

06/16/2008 11:13 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Dirk, The evidence and writing are on the wall. The most important marketing-lead gen. tool right now is a stand alone blog. The problem? The majority of Realtors do not understand this fact. The time blogging takes to learn, to write, and to overcome the technology hurdle are the barriers to entry.

If I was a Realtor I would consider establishing a blog with the idea that it is intellectual property, like any written content aka a book, that will serve as your moving living resume for an entire career. This is more than just lead gen, this is branding to the highest degree or level: give the reader your thoughts and give them a warm introduction before they even meet you.

It's that important!

dean

06/16/2008 03:52 PM by


Dean - Thanks.

A well used blog puts relevant textual content on a site. If it is well conceived, and formatted content, then it's also great for SEO.

Sites that are "brochureware" are not structured properly to rank well. And they probably don't have links.

06/16/2008 04:47 PM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Top rankings will be for a site which is most relevant for a particular keywords, has better links, Optimized Content and link structure. Yes, Big Boys can and will get top ranks becuuse sheer weight of their site (lot of listings and internal pages with good link structure) and lot of other resources like better SEOs, content writers, paid links etc.

But if any real estate agent chooses an area and optimizes the site specifically for that area, then the small site can beat  Big sites.

I have done it and beaten big sites.

06/17/2008 02:02 AM by Aniruddha Badola | Real Estate SEO (Enovabiz Solutions)


Well said.  I used to be placed #1 on Google for "Richmond Hill real estate" after a fair amount of work, but I am the first to admit that I haven't done much in quite a while, in terms of SEO and linking, and as a result I have fallen down a notch or 2 and have to get back at it.  Knowledge of the basics and a little work is all it takes to get a good ranking, that or a big budget and AdWords.

06/17/2008 02:12 AM by Andrew Hodge (Right At Home Realty Inc.)


If you don't have the time then hire this task out to a real pro.

Few things are more critical to getting business than having your website up top.

06/17/2008 02:13 AM by Sabrina Kelley,Colorado Mountain Homes, Woodland Park Colorado Real Estate (Prudential Colorado Real Estate )


Oh, I forgot to mention that it doesn't help when a lot of agents will link to these sites with there own desired keyword anchor text in exchange for a link on a page that will never get spidered making an effective one way link to the lead generation site from a relevant site that should be seen as an authority, giving the link more "weight". Keep an eye out for "black hat SEO".

06/17/2008 02:17 AM by Andrew Hodge (Right At Home Realty Inc.)


Aniruddha: Right on....for more discussion of your comment: "I have done it and beaten big sites."
The main difference between sites with good rankings and those without

Andrew: Glad to hear that you've been successful. Again, the post above relates to that.

In your second comment, I think you are referring to three-way links, but I'm not sure. I'd advise anyone to avoid three way links. Because...You get a link from their "junk" site, but give one back to their primary site. It's a bad trade. Four-way links are even worse. Both sides get a junk link.

Sabrina:  Yes, hiring a pro can provide a lot of nuanced benefits. But use caution. Get yourself a good foudation of SEO knowledge first, then you'll know how to hire the right vendor to actually do the work.

Here's a multi-page document that was specifically written for real estate professionals, using real estate examples:
Search Engine Optimization Basics For Real Estate-Related Websites
http://www.domaindrivers.com/seobasics-realestate-main.htm

thanks to all...

dj

06/17/2008 08:21 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Dirk and Sabrina, I am afraid that many are missing the true point. Writing a blog is not about SEO-it's about you the Realtor. Are you crafting a plan to become your area's go-to source of information trusted by consumers feared by your competitors? If a Realtor can't produce quality, valuable, consistent content then don't bother blogging. It is far too much work if one's heart is not into it.

 

06/17/2008 08:59 AM by


Dean: Thanks. Again, I agree with you. Sorry if I clouded the issue. A blog is about content. Yet it can also serve a dual purpose, by enhancing your SEO efforts, as well, if the content is well-crafted.

For instance, a blog post about relocating to your local community can easily serve both the reader and the engines, well.

 Going back to the subject of this thread, though, and we both agree completely that doing NOTHING is guaranteed to acomplish nothing.

06/18/2008 10:53 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Dirk, no clouding no harm no foul! I wanted to remind people, who seemed to be missing the point, that blogging is a LOT of work. Writing is important. If a Realtor will not commit the time to research, comment, and learn to write posts--forgetaboutit. There blog will become one of the estimated 70% of blogs started that go abandon within the first 90 days.

SEO is a huge part of lead gen and making your blogging time commitment pay off. You are right on the money.

dean

06/18/2008 01:47 PM by


The challenge in my opinion is that there are a lot of markets where there is not a lot of local real estate agent competition for the Long Tails that Trulia and others have optimized around.  As a result Trulia, REALTOR.com and Homes.com and others simply are doing SEO while agents aren't.  Probably because of all the misinformation from so called SEO experts who really don't know what they are talking about.

Great Post Dirk...

Glenn
--
Founder / CEO
Working The Magic LLC
Check out my Real Estate SEO blog

06/19/2008 11:50 PM by Glenn Sanford (BuyerTours Realty LLC & Working The Magic, LLC)


Glenn:

Thanks. We've looked at the SEO competition in a lot of markets, in depth. What we find on the ground is simply mind-boggling.

Just this month we saw one metro area that is easily in the top 50 in size, and the local agents had not even adressed their primary search terms, let alone the long tail terms.

This is just money being left on the ground by these agents. So, again, I ask them... Do you need a Mentor Evaluation?

06/22/2008 08:46 PM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Dean,

yep. Tools are available. Whether people use them is the difference.

06/22/2008 08:48 PM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


Dirk the fact of the matter is that most agents don't even know what the term "SEO" means! You are 100% correct - if you invest a little time and effort you can easily compete with the big boys. I know I do :)

07/19/2008 09:31 AM by Bill Gassett Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate (RE/MAX Executive Realty)


Very well written and thought out...thanks...

 

07/20/2008 11:03 PM by GA-agent.com-- Georgia Real Estate Directory (GA-agent.com)


Bill:

Thanks for reading. WOuld you care to post something about your success at this:

Does Your SEO Work Get You a Seat at the Closing Table?

James:

Thanks for your kind words. My main goal here in ActiveRain is to bring over 10 years of SEO experience to the discussion, which includes dozens of real estae sites.

07/21/2008 07:32 AM by Dirk Johnson (DomainDrivers.com)


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