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This is an excellent article from USA Today on one aspect of mortgage fraud and how it is committed.  The article explains how a team of "professionals" can use a "straw buyer" (think of the story of the three pigs) to steal tens of thousands of dollars from a bank and homeowners.  One team can do this many, many times and walk away with hundreds of thousands of dollars.

See the entire article here:  http://money.aol.com/news/articles/real-estate/_a/mortgage-fraud-cases-up-by-two-thirds/20080603123509990001

According to the article, two people are under investigation by the FBI involved in the house in Las Vegas on Gold Mine Drive and Rolling Hills.  The house was on the market with no activity for months.  Then, out of the blue, a man showed up wanting to pay more than $40,000 more than the asking price for the home.  Catch?  The sellers would have to pay $43,000 to another company at the time of closing.  And they had to move quickly as the buyer wanted to move in right way.  Apparently, the real estate agent who represented the sellers was the wife of a special agent for the FBI.

I hope it was some sort of sting, and that this woman did not participate in this scheme in any other way.  If the real estate agent did not participate as a way to catch the mortgage fraud perpetrators, then she is likely guilty of mortgage fraud herself. 

As far back as 2005, the real estate company I worked with in California was training its agents to bring any escrow instructions that involved payment of a third party, especially payment of large sums of money, to the broker right away.  The fact that 15% of the homes purchase price was being paid to an unknown third party at or shortly after closing, and given the previous showing history on the house (or lack thereof), as well as the speed of closing, should have all been BIG red flags for the sellers agent. 

In California, the team I worked with had a purchase offer come through that involved the payment at closing of almost $50,000 on a $350,000 home.  Supposedly, the money was to be used for additional 'landscaping'.  Yeah, right.  We brought it to the broker's opinion, and it was decided that this was waaaaay to risky to pursue.  The sellers were notified in writing about mortgage fraud, and they were given the option of not responding or we would cancel the listing.  They opted not to pursue the offer.

In my opinion, the sellers' agent bears some of the responsibility here.  She should have raised those red flags.  She should have been the one to call in the FBI prior to closing.  Did this scheme hurt the sellers?  No, probably not directly.  They did, after all, sell their home.  Did it hurt all of us who have to bear the cost of the mortgage debacle now, including current buyers and sellers who now have to deal with tightening restrictions and ridiculous contingencies placed on them by lenders who have turned 180 degrees by becoming over-conservative in granting loans?

What do you think?

 
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17 Comments on Having Issues with Mortgage Fraud Article

Yes the listing agent bears reponsibility in this case.  It screams fraud right on the face of it.

06/04/2008 09:24 AM by Joe Virnig, "No Ordinary Joe" (RE/MAX Gold Coast REALTORS, Ventura County, California)


Hi Marlene...thank you for sharing.  I agree with you 100%

I am in California and am impressed that you were able find a Broker in California who had eithics, I have not been able to find one--that is why I stay Independent.

For your broker to risk losing an Escrow--that speaks volumes of his ethics...I am glad to hear that there are borkers who put ethics befor money.

I saw that very thing happening for a long time and it really bothered me but felt helpless to do anything.  One good thing is that some of these bad men/women are being caught and they are in jail!

I started a new group to post things like this "Fraudsters, Scammers and Ponsz scheme Report them here"  I would like to invite you to join me.  Take care

06/04/2008 09:30 AM by Aida Pinto Real Estate and Loan Consultant (ReoLicensedSpecialist.com)


we've had a couple of big bouts of mortgage fraud in my market.  One a NYC based hedge fund was operating / bankrolling?  mortgage fraud with straw buyers in inner city neighborhoods.  In another higher priced homes were sold with money going to a fund for construction.  There was a sham construction company set up...

I hope the RE agent was part of the sting in the case you mention.

06/04/2008 11:12 AM by Maureen McCabe - Central Ohio real estate (Real Living HER)


There will always be scam artists of some sort trying to make a quick buck.

06/04/2008 02:38 PM by Jim Lee, Knoxville Tennessee RealtorĀ® (Realty Executives Associates)


I guess every community had their share of these scams.  I had an experience with some of them but probably shouldn't talk about it.

06/04/2008 04:02 PM by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage)


This is an insane scheme. While our government is complaining about the mortgage comapnies themselves you have these kind of issues taking place right out in the open. This is ridiculous; thanks for shedding some light on this issue.

06/04/2008 04:04 PM by Christopher Ohlsen (Lake City Mortgage)


I agree with you.  How could a broker and the wife of an FBI agent not recognize what was going on?

06/04/2008 05:36 PM by Kevin Hancock - The Hancock Mortgage Team (The Legacy Group; Capital/Mortgage/Escrow)


Joe, Jim, Christopher and Kevin, True!

Aida, if you were in Chula Vista I would send you to her.  She was one of the most respected, capable brokers I have ever worked with!  And thank you, I will look into your group.

Maureen, I guess fraudsters can be very creative...

Barbara, Please!  Talk!  Just leave out too many details and names.... 

06/04/2008 06:01 PM by Marlene Scheffer, Realtor to Kitsap County, WA (Realty Station)


Great post!

I too think that fraud is rampant everywhere nowadays, particuarly depressed areas with desparate sellers and schiesters looking to get rich quick.  I've run into several situations in the Detroit area that were either very fishy or outright fraudulent.

It's a shame.  We've all got to keep an eye out for it to protect ourselves, our clients, and our industry.

06/04/2008 07:42 PM by Mark Miller - Flagstar Bank


I'll admit i didn't read closely, but I wonder if she was part of the tip-off.  She isn't being charged, and it is possible that they just don't want to say. 

In my very first deal, the buyer wanted to bump the price and get money to a contracting company he owned... but it wasn't in the contract and it was too late for him to walk without losing the earnest money, and we refused.

06/04/2008 09:56 PM by Lane Bailey - REALTOR & Car Guy (Diamond Dwellings Realty)


 

Like Joe said, it screams fraud.

You and your broer in the California story were right  on top of thngs.

06/04/2008 11:29 PM by Jon Boyd Ann Arbor Real Estate Buyer's Agent (Home Buyer's Agent of Ann Arbor)


Wowsers, Marlene!  I just now am trying to get caught up on my reading - thanks for sharing - sad isn't it?

06/05/2008 08:27 AM by Courtney Cooper, Seattle Realtor/Broker- Seattle Real Estate, Seattle WA (Cooper Jacobs Real Estate Services - Seattle Real Estate )


It's crazy because as I was doing a BPO in early May it happened to be a client of the people charged.  I have to report what the list price was when sold & concessions.  The list agent meticulously upped the price by a ton of money and concessions were an abnormal 10%.  Everything was reported correctly in the MLS, so it seems.

In my BPOs I check for outstanding liens on the recorder's site (I go a little further so I get fed a little more.)  Low and behold this person had two other properties in default (you check by name and then investigate by parcel #.)

For giggles I checked out the two other properties in the MLS.  Both reported a +15% list to sell ratio but neither reported an unusual amount of concessions.  Odd.  My 1/2 an hour BPO turned out to be a 2 hour ordeal and I reported everything that I saw in that BPO.

Are the list agents culpable? 

Like you I have been taught since I got my license in 2005 that all concessions should be contained in the main body of the ORIGINAL executory contract so the lender can see them.  No concession changes should be made after the original contract is executory.

I had a listing last year (high rise) that was grossly underpriced.  I had several agent inquiries with weird requests that:

  • I withdraw the listing and we do the contract outside of the boundaries of my exclusive right to sell listing agreement
  • I raise the commission 10% above what I charged so the buyer's agent will receive an abnormal commission (to be rebated to the buyer?!?!?!?!)
  • I write a normal contract for a buyer and then we write the addendum

Just to name a few.  I had "normal" contracts (multiple offers) on the table.  I did present those options to my seller (who was also a licensed agent) and did talk about the liklihood of possible mortgage fraud.  We opted for a normal contract.

I think it becomes a catch-22 when, by law, we are required to present all written contracts.  Basically if the seller can live with the bottom line and accept the contract, even if they are counseled in regards to the possibility of mortgage fraud, I don't know.  Do you withdraw yourself from the listing and the matter?  Do you advise them to seek legal help?  Do you really know what is going on? (I did in my example!)

Luckily I never found myself tangled in one of these situations other than the above example that I gave and all ended up and appeared normal.

 

06/05/2008 12:11 PM by Renee Burrows - Las Vegas NV Real Estate (Nevada Realty Solutions)


Renee, you bring up a really good point.  Since we have to present all written offers, how can we be held liable for the content of the offers we didn't create?  Of course, I think there is something in our agency laws about the offers being valid, and a fraudulent offer wouldn't be valid. 

But, I would probably tell my seller that we needed to report it to authorities.  And then let them use it for a sting... That would be fun.

06/06/2008 10:17 PM by Lane Bailey - REALTOR & Car Guy (Diamond Dwellings Realty)


I think that, by law, you do have to present all offers.  However, you also need to advise the seller of the very real probablity of mortgage fraud, and explain that if there is an investigation later, they will get drawn into it, and so will you and your brokerage.  Of course you advise them to get legal counsel.  And then, if they still decide to accept a contract that you believe is fraudulent, what you as the agent and brokerage do, is up to you.  I do not believe that I could participate in something like that.  Will it hurt my seller?  Probably not.  Will it hurt others?  Yeah, it will.  But it is up to each individual agent and each brokerage.  Lots of complex issues involved here.

06/10/2008 01:12 AM by Marlene Scheffer, Realtor to Kitsap County, WA (Realty Station)


Hi Marlene..... Just re-visiting your post....and frankly have not had time to keep up with everything going on in the Rain...I am so new, just started a month ago....anyway the new group I started---I have not being able to post, yet, but will get around to it.

Here is the group I started and would like for everyone to start reporting all these scams:  

Real Estate Fraud, Scams and Ponzi schemes REPORT THEM HERE

I am really, really new here and don't know how to let people know about this new group.

I do not live near Chula Vista, but thanks for the offer. 

Any thanks!

06/16/2008 05:28 PM by Aida Pinto Real Estate and Loan Consultant (ReoLicensedSpecialist.com)


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