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You Wanna Play the Numbers Game? Okay, let's play.

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Most agent training programs insist that Selling Real Estate is a Numbers Game - that is, in order to bring in enough business to keep the home fires burning, you have to touch as many people as you can with your name & number. The more people you touch, the better your chances of procuring a buyer or a listing.

We've all heard the mass-marketer's philosophy - you have to contact X number of people to get a lead and you have to have Y number of leads to get a listing (or a buyer) and you have to have Z number of listings (or buyers) to get a paycheck. Therefore, it takes X(Y-Z)x 25 contacts to have 25 closings. (I'm really bad at math, so that formula is totally made up - don't try it at home). During the course of all these cold calls (or door knocks or postcard mailings, etc.) you'll encounter loads of rejection, but the gurus claim that since it's all part of the game, you actually ENJOY each rejection because it means you're one step closer to paycheck.

Sounds delightful.

According to the Direct Marketers Association, the highest return rate you should expect for a direct mail campaign is 2%; for a cold-calling campaign, 5.53%. Keep in mind that these figures reflect how many people simply contact the advertiser, not whether or not they purchase anything. So, if you send out 1000 postcards, you can expect, at the most, 20 inquiries from your effort.

Your cost? Let's say each postcard costs you $.58 cents plus a set-up fee of $100 = around $700 total. Not bad if it gets results, but tough on the new agent's pocketbook!

Well, as you may know, I preach a slightly different approach - that is - building your business based on the personal relationships in your life... the relationships you have now as well as those you'll have in the future. I advise against asking for business or assaulting the people you know with your sales pitch and I teach agents to draw business TO them without ever pestering a soul. I believe you can bring in good leads one warm body at a time without ever treating anyone like a number (and you'll have a heck of a lot more fun selling real estate).

But, the idea that selling real estate successfully is a numbers game is so deeply entrenched in the psyche of the real estate agent, I figure... if you can't beat ‘em, join ‘em. 

So, let's play the Numbers Game of Relationship Prospecting.

Let's say that instead of sending out 1000 football schedule postcards, you send ten of your friends a personal, non-salesy email. Just a "hi, how ya doing, great weather we're having, how's the puppy, let's do lunch" kind of thing.

Of those ten emails you send, what do you think your response rate will be? I don't know about you, but I'd expect 100% response rate - that is, every single person I wrote to would write me back, as long as my email was personal and even mildly interesting (this does NOT apply to mass-forwards or emailed infomercials). But let's say that two of your friends are on vacation, so you hear back from eight. That's an 80% response rate.

Now let's say that you followed up on your offer to "do lunch" and went to lunch with all eight in the next month. That's two lunches a week, if you treat all eight times, you'll spend, maybe, $200.

Will any of those eight friends buy or sell a house with you anytime soon? Maybe, but probably not (however, I can guarantee you that if they do, you'll be #1 on their list). But here's where it gets fun.

How many people do each of those eight friends know? How many do they work with, play with, talk with, drink with? Twenty? Thirty? One hundred? And how many people do THOSE people know?

See, here's the thing. By personally interacting with just those eight friends, you have effectively touched everyone they know. And with these eight lunches, you've also increased the possibility of being included in the social lives of these eight people. You'll be invited to their Super Bowl party or afternoon BBQ. Where you'll meet more of their friends...

Out of all those hundreds of people your friends know and their friends know, some are going to have a real estate need today, tomorrow and next month. A personal referral from someone they know is going to carry a heck of a lot more weight than a mass-mailed postcard received from a stranger.

Because, when you do a mass-mailing or other mass-marketing project, you aren't hoping for referrals from the recipients of your promotional material; you're simply hoping that one of those 1000 people has a real estate need and doesn't know anyone besides you to call. You certainly aren't expecting them to shout your praises to their circle of friends because you sent them a football schedule.

What if you took eight people to lunch every month?

Wow - Selling real estate IS a numbers game! I want to play!

 

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Comments(17)

Robert Rauf
CMG Home Loans - Toms River, NJ

It is so true... It is all about your Sphere of influence... and people do business with people they like, and I am a firm believer that life is too short to do business with people you do not like!

A friendly reminder to your sphere that you are in the business will never hurt.

(I guess you are cured of your writers block?) :)

 

 

Jun 05, 2008 03:17 AM
Jimmie Graham
Keller Williams Realty - Ypsilanti, MI

That sounds really nice.  I'm interested in more ideas they may have to offer.  Is it only in Denver or can you join from Michigan?  I'll do more research and learn more about the Savvy Prospector.  Great Post. I'll go ahead and subscribe to you. 

Jun 05, 2008 04:29 AM
Jennifer Allan
Jennifer Allan, Inc. - Denver, CO

Robert - Yep! I've been pounding away on my keyboard since the wee hours of the morning!

Jimmy - The Savvy Prospector course is available to agents all over the world, even in Michigan!!! STay tuned!

Jun 05, 2008 04:49 AM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Jennifer, I like your much more advanced relationship marketing approach vs. the old direct mail method. Makes more sense.

Jun 05, 2008 06:24 AM
Kimberly Grant
Exit Leon Crawford Realty - Huntsville, AL
Real Estate Agent - Huntsville Alabama

Jennifer, I like this idea.  Its a good suggestion for things to implement and much more fun than addressing envelopes.  I will be on the look out for the Savvy Prospector course when the details are available.

Jun 05, 2008 07:55 AM
Diane McDermott
Realtor®, GRI, Landis e2 Real Estate, LLC - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte NC Real Estate Market

Hi Jennifer, You're absolutely right and I love how you broke down the "traditional" and "personal" approaches. I'd much rather have a personal connection with people I know and spend time with than treat people like a "number". Fabulous points!

Jun 05, 2008 08:21 AM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

I sure like your numbers better!  Give me lunch, drinks and parties any day of the week over the bulk mail center.  ;-)

Jun 05, 2008 10:41 AM
Heather Oberhau
Prudential Fox & Roach - Newtown, PA
Bucks County Real Estate, e-PRO

If you do this right, the great thing is that you have an army of people out prospecting FOR you.  You have a team (your SOI) out with their ears open and when THEY run into someone with a real estate need, not only do they give out your name, but it comes with a personal referral.  I don't remember the number, but a ridiculously high number of Buyers and Sellers find their realtor from a personal referral.

Jun 05, 2008 11:05 AM
Bart Whitmore
Keller Williams- Louisville - Louisville, KY
Real Estate Agent

Sounds like a good way to do business, I will have to look into it further.

Jun 05, 2008 01:16 PM
LaNita Cates
REMAX of Joliet - Joliet, IL

It is a numbers game without a doubt. Never give up and it will come back to you tenfold!

Jun 05, 2008 01:44 PM
Joshua & Kathy Schmidt
ERA Henley Real Estate - Cabot, AR

I am definitely all for this idea.  I enjoy social marketing.  It is one of my favorite ways!

Jun 06, 2008 02:20 PM
The Dave Ruwe Homes Team
Re/Max Lakeshore - Grand Haven, MI
Realtors

You are so right on Jennifer, but I didn't have to tell you that. I do keep in touch with my SOI. I would like your opinion.... i do some of the ask to lunch, coffee, etc...I also do periodic things during the year. I recently sent them a card to come in for a free flat of flowers. What are your thoughts on those type of things? I was there when they came in to pick them up so I got to speak with them...if they showed up.

Dave

Jun 07, 2008 10:41 AM
Jennifer Allan-Hagedorn
Sell with Soul - Pensacola Beach, FL
Author of Sell with Soul

Dave - I don't have a problem with doing things like that as long as you don't take the face-time opportunity to be salesy or beg for referrals. How did you feel about the response you got?

Jun 08, 2008 12:31 AM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Jennifer, there is no doubt a greater return on the SOI than a mailing. No, you can't contact as many people with a phone call or lunch, but the ones you do contact and stay in touch with will use you again and refer you.

Jun 08, 2008 01:12 AM
Greg Fox
Realty World Wichita - Wichita, KS
Techy Broker in Wichita Kansas

I've been getting your emails, and I like them.  Thanks for those!!!

As for SOI, according to NAR, just over 70% of customers choose a Realtor they know, or a friend/relative knows.  I think farming has it's place, but I say farm People, not an area!!!

Jun 08, 2008 01:21 AM
Anonymous
Anonymous

Jennifer, I don't ask for referrals. I don't like it when people do it to me....do unto others.... I get a good response from my clients and they seem very appreciative. Good opportunity for face time and casual conversation. At Christmas we have an open house and invite clients to come hang out and pick up a small appreciation gift from us. If they can't make it I deliver it to their house. It has been very positive for me. I'm not from this area so I have been building my SOI.

Dave

Jun 08, 2008 05:59 AM
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Daniel J. Brudnok, REALTOR
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Fox & Roach, REALTORS - Exton - PA License #RS-225179-L / Delaware License #RS-0025038 - Downingtown, PA
SRES, e-PRO,ABR,GREEN,CSP

Jennifer,

I followed here from your last post.....and I am working with a new licensee who has 30+ years in sales who is fighting me on this process......I will share these posts with him, thanks....

Jun 20, 2008 02:27 AM