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Rates:

 30 yr conforming              6.125    

30 yr jumbo                      6.375 (to 600k)

7/1 jumbo ARM                  5.625

OR Vet                              5.250

State Bond FHA                   5.625

 

As you can see, we had an increase in rates for conventional loans. The bond market dropped over the last few days taking mortgage rates up. I mentioned a few weeks ago that ARM's were much lower than 30 year fixed. The big rate difference has changed. With our Fed commenting that they are more concerned with inflation rather than the economy, the Treasury and rate markets jumped. Especially at the short end - and that is where the 3 and 5 year ARM's are priced. This week's consensus is that rates will start a new range - from 6.00% to 6.50%. Of course, that consensus can change next week.

 

Underwriting guidelines are still being restricted but we are hoping that we have seen the end of the tightening. Fannie and Freddie recently announced their changes and the MI companies have already announced theirs (some of the effective dates aren't until next month). Hopefully this is the end for them as there are signs that things are stabilizing. The recent pending sales report from NAR showed an unexpected large jump and a foreclosure report showed that the rate of foreclosures has slowed two months in a row. This is leading many to think that the bottom, if we are not already there, is just around the corner. Some of our lenders, however, have placed new restrictions on their guidelines. One large national bank has just announced loan-to-value restrictions (max. 90%) for our Tri-County area and another national lender has cut their second mortgages down to a max of 85%. We will still see some tightening by individual lenders but most of us think that the big guys (Fannie, Freddie, et al) are finished.

 

This  installment on my Good Faith Estimate (GFE) theme deals with what I call "garbage fees". Personally, what I call garbage fees are all fees charged by a lender or broker that are not points. As you may recall from last week's discussion on the different terms used for points (origination, discount, mortgage broker fee), I consider points as part of the interest rate comparison. Garbage fees have many, many names. Some are very legit, others are ways to increase the bottom-line (for the lender, of course). Fees for credit reports, tax service and flood certs are legit. The total of these are usually about $100 or so and are charged by practically everyone. Appraisal fees are part of this too but those can range from $150 - $600 or more, depending on the type of transaction.  Title insurance, county taxes and recording fees, total escrow charges, property taxes and hazard insurance costs are from third parties. These charges often show up as different amounts when comparing GFE's but these are just estimates of what others will charge for their services. When comparing a GFE, these latter charges shouldn't be included in your analysis. When a GFE is completed, we lenders estimate what these other service providers will charge. Regardless of our estimates, those other providers will charge what they need for their services. Typically, lenders have nothing to do with those charges. So, to complete a comparison of a GFE, you review rate, lock term, points, and garbage fees.  When I review a GFE, I look for fees labeled as processing (almost all lenders have some form of processing fee), underwriting, document preparation (doc prep), warehouse, administration and review fees. Sometimes, you'll see other creative fees. It's very common to see a lender charge a processing fee and a doc prep or underwriting fee. For instance, a mortgage broker will normally charge a processing fee to package and process the loan. Once completed they will forward the file to a wholesale lender who will underwrite the file and disburse the funds. The wholesale lender will always charge an underwriting or document fee of their own. Seeing those two fees would be normal. Some lenders can and will charge excess fees. For example, I reviewed a GFE recently and the broker had charged .50% origination (which is fine), a processing fee of $595  an underwriting fee of $495, an Administrative fee of $295, and a document preparation fee of $495. When all totaled, it was on the high side. Although the .50% origination fee sounded good, when all of these other fees were added, the total cost of the loan made it uncompetitive. On a loan of $100,000, those fees added up to be almost 2%.

 

When talked with last week's update, a borrower should be able to make a complete and accurate comparison between two or more GFE's. As always, if you have questions just shoot me an email.

 

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GIVE FEED BACK. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

 

 
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6 Comments on Good Faith Estimates and "Garbage Fees"

So, since you think processing fees and underwriting fees are junk fees.  What type of fees do you typically have on your GFE and what is your % of a typical commission when you broker a loan?

 

06/11/2008 05:33 PM by Nicole - Licensed LO and Host of Weekly Radio Show


Nicole,

Our processing fee depends on the loan type, for instance on Government loans (FHA etc.) we charge a $490 processing fee--that's it. On Conventional, the company charges a $595 processing fee and a $250 doc prep fee, and again. these can change depending on the loan. As far as our comission it again depends on the transaction but we will charge up to 1%. Most of the time we are way below that. We have more of a volume based business, that allows us to charge the client less for their loan.

Thank you for the response!

06/11/2008 05:53 PM by Bob Chiodo (Equity Home Mortgage)


Bob,

This is off topic but with your experience, I was just curious to see what you thought. I heard a speaker at a mortgage conference joke once about the title Senior loan officer/consultant/broker/advisor/whatever, and if that meant they just worked with seniors. Obviously that is not the case, I am just curious what your opinion is on this. I have closed over a 100 million in loans the past 5 years and don't have it in my title yet but there are guys in my office that have closed 15 loans in their career and already label themselves as senior. I was just curious if there is a professional "understanding" of what that entails. Thanks!

Be Blessed!

Travis

06/11/2008 08:01 PM by Travis Neliton (Mortgage Express)


Travis,

In response to your question about "Senior" Loan Consultant, it truly doesn't mean anything - just like many titles. My company uses it for those who have been in the business for a long time. I qualify since it's 29 years now. But I don't think we have a hard and fast and rule for what a long time meas. I don't think consumers/clients really pay any attention to that part of the title either.

Bob 

06/12/2008 12:58 PM by


Bob,

Thank you for your clarification.  After I re-read my first comment is came off a little snotty.  I didn't mean it that way at all.  I was just curious to see what type of fees you charge.  My typicaly GFE has Broker Fee (either $295 or $595); Processing Fee (either $495 or $595); up to 1% in origination; discount points only if the client is truly buying the rate down and then the lender I use has a underwriting fee ($695.00).  Of course, they usually breakdown the underwriting fee to be a little of this and a little of that, but 99% of the time it adds up to about $695.00.  Even with the above mentioned fees; anytime I do a fee/rate comparison with a client I blow most of the competition out of the water without even trying.  Most LOs that do work in my area make 3-4% on a loan.  I think its very sad to see people get up to a while point higher than what they qualify for because the LO is plain greedy.  I make less on my loans and do more for my clients; good old fashioned custoemr service.

06/12/2008 08:30 PM by Nicole - Licensed LO and Host of Weekly Radio Show


Nicole,

That's a good way to do business! Thank you for your comments.

 

 

06/13/2008 12:16 PM by Bob Chiodo (Equity Home Mortgage)


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