While currently exchanging emails with the out of state lender who is doing the loan for my Arizona buyer, I have decided to turn my gripes into a public service announcement.

To any consumer who happens upon this post, please do yourself a favor and utilize the services of a local professional when you purchase a home.  I know in this day and age that you can shop competitive rates and fees online. 

If the person providing the service is located in Calcutta, who cares right?  They have great rates!

For starters, I have seldom encountered one of these online lending services that handily beats a reputable local source.  I have had several clients opt for some cyber-service because they believed they were getting the best deal.  It wasn't until they sat down at the closing table that they realized the Good Faith Estimate (if they were fortunate enough to actually receive one) did not include estimates of title fees, insurance premiums and the various other costs outside of the lender's own fees.   The total closing costs ended up considerably higher than the estimate prepared by one of the lenders I recommended.  The comparison was not apples to apples. 

Put that in your e-pipe and smoke it!

The second problem I have encountered with out of area institutions is a lack of timeliness.  Even in the 21st century, in the day and age of emailed loan docs, there are often closing delays.  Multiple requests for the same documentation, last minute requirements, etc are part of most every loan.  It gets even more cumbersome when everything has to be shipped out of area and back.  In a crunch to meet a closing deadline, I have seen the lender I work with personally drive documents across town.  He is familiar with most every title officer in town, and knows what buttons to push to keep things on schedule.  Shoot, he even told the bank to hold his check once as a guarantee against dry rot work (which the bank demanded be performed as a condition of funding) being performed post closing.  We closed that one on time, and he got his check a week later once the work was finished.  You just don't get that level of service from a call center.

My biggest complaint with using a non-local lender, however, is the lack of understanding with the transactional process and paperwork that is employed in Arizona for the sale of Real Estate.  They are rarely familiar with the required forms, and are likewise unfamiliar with the standard terms of our contract.  My request for a "Loan Status Report" is met with dead silence.  Documentation is demanded to show proof of specific inspections that are not typically performed here.  Of course, such conditions are never broached until well after the buyer's inspection period has elapsed.

Bottom line, I wish lenders would stick to selling loans in the markets where they are based.  Knowing this is not going to change anytime soon, I urge prospective buyers to employ a local bank or broker to facilitate their purchases. 

BUY LOCAL - It's not just for produce anymore!

Should you require the services of a reputable local lender in the Scottsdale / metro Phoenix area, I can recommend a few good ones.  By all means, check with more than one to find the right fit.  Bear in mind that I have no incentive in your choice of lender other than seeing you receive the best service at reasonable terms, and actually getting the loan funded.  Preferably on time.

Now let's go buy a house!

 

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Paul Slaybaugh is your source for Scottsdale Real Estate

Please feel free to contact me for a referral to a local professional in most any field, regardless of whether or not you choose to use my services to buy or sell a home.

 
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13 Comments on Use a Local Lender When Purchasing Your New Scottsdale Home!

JUN
19
2008
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I second that emotion!  Almost lost a big transaction in April due to out of state lender (CA) that also happened to be an accountant!!  His secretary said he wouldn't be available till after tax season.  How's that for crappy service?!  BUY LOCAL!

11:46am • #1
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Excellent points, Paul.  The appraisal is a prime concern in my area and my main point for going local.  Topanga is very hard to comp accurately.  Each home, each street, each lot is different from the next.  We have cottages next to mansions and thousands of square feet of unpermitted space.  Our local brokers know which lenders will accept what and it has saved a LOT of loans.  I usually give out at least three names of brokers I have worked with who know this town.  And thanks for pointing out that we get nothing in return except a nice, smooth close!

11:48am • #2
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Paul, here, here!  My cousin bought a house from me when he moved here from CA.  Our transfer tax is 2% here.  His lender was from CA and informed him that the title company was ripping him off by charging the 2% transfer tax.  She wasn't aware of the tax laws here and was trying to make everyone else look bad because she screwed up a few things.  It was not a pleasant experience.

11:49am • #3
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Elena:  Yikes!  Bad enough to have him out of state, but he moonlights to boot?  Double yikes!

Elaine:  Very good point.  Out of state lenders often have their preferred list of local appraisers, but they are not necessarily the best choices.  It is not uncommon to have an appraiser who is not very familiar with a particular area do the evaluation.  The local institutions/brokers often know which appraisers to employ based on location.  Any time I get a call from an appraiser for scheduling, I cringe when an area code shows up on my caller ID from the far reaches of the Valley.

Susan:  Your example sums it all up perfectly.  If you aren't familiar with procedures and customs of an area, don't do business there!  If you do, don't open your yap to mislead the client with false information.  On my current transaction, we are a week out from closing.  The lender asked to see a mold clearance yesterday.  We don't routinely inspect for mold here unless there is specific cause.  Nothing in the general inspection report nor the termite inspection led the buyer to believe the additional expense was necessary.  Now, well after our inspection period elapsed, the bank figures it knows better than the buyer and the general home inspector.  Further, according to the terms of our contract, documents will be required to be at title and signed by the buyer no later than this coming monday.  Until this matter gets resolved, I don't see that happening.  I am going to plant dynamite along the San Andreas fault line if this institution sends another loan in this direction.  Don't worry, Elaine, I'll give you plenty of notice ;)

12:18pm • #4
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I second that.  In fact, my position is that I don't send folks to lenders, I take them.  If it is more convenient for buyers to make a telephone loan application, I get a copy of the GFE immediately. 

Same thing with title companies.  In this area, we have such vastly different taxes and requirements for closing, I don't even want an out of state title company. 

The last buyer I had who insisted on using his Internet lender was being overcharged about $4000 until he sent me the pro-forma HUD-1. The closing was done with a notary closer.  It was a riot.

There are clearly some very good ActiveRain members who are in the mortgage business.  However, as I have told them, I need to rely on folks I can "look in the eye".  That has served my buyer clients well over the many years. 

Yep, local produce, local agents, local lenders and local title companies. 

 

1:43pm • #5
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Paul, excellent point. The taxes and laws are so local the out of state or out of country shops just don't know all the ins and outs to get the deals done smoothly. Some areas have transfer fees for example while others don't.

2:10pm • #6
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Amen!  The biggest problem we run into is lenders not being familiar with local building codes or property issues... water holding tanks, for example, are pretty common and I have yet to meet an outside lender that can wrap their little brains around that.

It's also easier for me to wrap my hands around the lenders neck when they drop the ball if they're local... though thankfully I've only had to go so far as the stink eye lately.

2:50pm • #7
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Hi Paul, I couldn't agree more and your scenario is pretty accurate. When a Buyer announces that they have financing aligned on line, I shutter. Real estate is Local and so should the lender be. But big mortgage houses actually disagree, if the have offices in many states and various cities. Go figure. I guess greed works from anywhere, if you are into that sort thing,lol. Or maybe a better way to say that is that greed has no boundaries.

8:46pm • #8
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I am SO feeling your pain right now, Paul...I'm dealing with an out of state lender now who apparently has been funding loans on Mars, since he hasn't a clue about meeting contract deadlines and that my sellers don't HAVE to give his clients yet another extension because he's got his head up his...well, you know.  If this actually makes it to close, I'd like to smack their agent afterwards for not directing them to a local lender who could have put this to bed 2 weeks ago.  Geesh.

10:45pm • #9
JUN
20
2008
271,088 Points 41 Featured Posts Outside Blog

PAUL - I dealt with this with an online lender.  It was a nightmare.  The lender, not knowing anyone in the area, hired the biggest a-hole appraiser that I have ever met.  Actually, it was astounding, because appraisers tend to blend in to a degree.  This guy gave us attitude, didn't show up, said that we didn't confirm appointments, etc.  After we got through the appraisal drama, the process didn't get much better, and the closing was almost delayed because of the online lender's inability to get things done.

5:15am • #10
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I agree with you completely on this one. There's nothing better than having the lender at the closing table with you just in case an issue comes up or a check needs to be run across town.

10:02am • #11
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21
2008
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Lenn:  You've got it.  Everything local.  I want to deal with folks who are familiar with the nuances and norms of a transaction's locality.  The notion that "money is money" and does not matter where it comes from is naive.  For instance, someone lending money out of California is going to have an entirely different set of requirements based on the legal issues and pitfalls encountered in that market, not here.  They don't even know which forms to use and what purposes they serve.  As for an out of state title company ... yikes.  The very last third party I want handling the transfer of ownership is an entity that has little understanding of Arizona standards.  Danger, Will Robinson!

Gary:  As outlined by the scenario Susan described, that is an excellent point.  We have no transfer tax here, so I imagine an Arizona lender trying to complete a loan for a buyer in her area could very easily be blindsided by ignorance.  "Sorry that didn't show up on the GFE, Mr. Buyer.  My bad."

Jesse:  The stink eye is bad enough, but I like the way you think.  You can only accomplish so much by shouting into a phone or angrily typing an email.  Sometimes it requires a personal visit.

William:  Simply put, just because you are legally permitted, that doesn't mean you should.  I can legally sell Real Estate in all corners of Arizona, but I wouldn't even purchase something for myself without the use of professional help from a LOCAL agent who knows the particular nook for more than I.  It doesn't serve the client to work an area you don't know, regardless of the financial incentive provided.  It is too fraught with risk.

Lisa:  Send the bouncer ;)

Adam:  Now that is a first for me.  I've had appraisers get their backs up when questioned on their evaluations, but I have never encountered a blatantly hostile one, especially prior to the actual visit.  I agree that a local institution is much more likely to know which appraisers to use for a professional and accurate job.  Take my market for example.  A "local" appraiser might make the trek from Casa Grande to Scottsdale to evaluate a property.  Only someone who is not familiar with the area would consider this appraiser to be "local."

Kelly:  Ah, what a rare treat that is!  There are precious few lenders that I have encountered who actualy accompany the buyer to closing.  I attend every one, and can count on one hand how many times the lender was there to explain the costs.  That usually falls to the title officer or myself.  While I can help explain the myriad fees, I certainly cannot answer questions based upon the terms decided upon between borrower and bank.  My go to guy does not attend closings, but his service is so superior otherwise that I remain loyal.

 

10:12am • #12
JUN
23
2008

No matter how quick and easy the on-line aspect of lending may seem.  Someone has to do the work that is for sure.  Nothing can take the place of a real live, honest person, who has the best interest of the buyer at heart.  Thanks for the nod to local lenders.

1:14pm • #13

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