ATTN:  ACTIVERAIN LOAN OFFICER MEMBERS - A CHALLENGE

JOIN THE "ASK THE MORTGAGE" GROUP and participate by posting to the new group "ASK THE LOAN OFFICER". 

POINTS  *  POINTS * POINTS * POINTS * POINTS * POINTS               

  • First place - 2000 points
  • Second through sixth place winners - 500 points each.

FREE ADVERTISING * FREE ADVERTISING * FREE ADVERTISING * FREE ADVERTISING

The six winning loan officers will be invited to participate in a HOME MORTGAGE Q&A on Homefinders.com.  The winners will be identified by name, mortgage company and contact information. 

CAN THE AVERAGE FAMILY QUALIFY FOR HOMES IN THE AVERAGE PRICE RANGE IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, VIRGINIA?  ALMOST. . .  MAYBE. . . .  CLOSE. . . .  DEPENDS.   Give me your answer in the comments. 

This is not a real buyer.  These numbers represent the statistical averages for Fairfax County, Virginia. 

The average income for Fairfax County is, by averaging several reporting sources, about $123,000.  Many reporting sources provide only median incomes but our homes sell by average prices, not median.  As prices come down and closer and closer to the qualifying range of the average home buyer, the challenge will be financing.  Mortgage financing is a moving target these days and prospective home buyers have multiple questions.  My goal is to add content to the mortgage page(s) on my web site to answer some of these questions.  The Q&A format will be utilized to appeal to the consumer. 

Below is the May 2008 report of home selling activity in Fairfax County.  The focus is on detached single family homes in the county because that is what 80% of our buyers request. 

FACTS:  Price - $605,000,  10% Down, Int. Rate 6.5%, Term 30 yrs, Taxes $6000 yr., Ins. - $100 mo.

Monthly income - $10,250 X 30% = $3075.

Average price - $605,511 X .90 = $544,960 @ 6.5% X 30 yrs = $3,445 PI.

$3,445 + $500 mo. TX + $100 INS. = $4045 PITI.

Credit Score = 699, 705 and 715. 

Cash on hand - $100,000.

Looks like about a 38 front ratio.  .   Cost of money?  Good question.  This is still in FHA range, but the ratio is a tad high.  Mortgage Insurance isn't included because the rate I used may (or may not) include MI for conventional financing.  MIP would be a part of an FHA loan PITI.

 Fairfax County May report    2008     2007     % Change 
Total Sold Dollar Volume:  $599,444,796 $694,019,806 -13.63%
Average Sold Price:  $469,049 $546,042 -14.10%
Median Sold Price:  $399,000 $460,000 -13.26%
Total Units Sold:  1,278 1,271 0.55%
Detach/Attach Average Sold:  $ 605,511 | $ 352,208  $ 737,335 | $ 440,564  - 17.88 % | - 20.06 % 
Average Days on Market:  93 79 17.72%
Average List Price for Solds:  $509,294 $573,161 -11.14%
Avg Sale Price as a 92.10% 95.27%  
percentage of Avg List Price:   
       

With the scenario above, what could mortgage lenders do? 

Question:  For the average price range for a Single Family Home in Fairfax County VA which is $605,500, how much income / credit score / would you be looking for to qualify a buyer with 5% down?  I'm using a 5% scenario for this exercise because I know our buyers and 5% down is a realistic scenario. 

OR

For an income of $123,000, with the above profile, what is the home buyers qualifying price range?

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If this adventure is successful, I plan to post questions to the group on a regular basis inviting responses to be posted with the loan officer's contact information.  I would like to expand a mortgage Q&A page on Homefinders.com to a Library of mortgage related subjects.  This post is about Fairfax County, Virginia, but my market area also covers Maryland.  Loan officers do not have to be local to participate. 

I look forward to some interesting ARTICLES.  I can have the "ASK THE LOAN OFFICER" page up in a couple of days and the Q&A for the first page will be published a few days following end of contest. 

Any delay would be caused by the fact that I'm installing 2 new servers and it may take a couple of days to get everything on line.  Right now I have no e-mail and expect my web pages to be off line all day Friday June 20th.  The migration to the new servers may take all day Friday. 

RULES:

Write post answering the question "what could mortgage lenders do?" 

Submissions welcomed through June 30, 2008, Midnight PT. 

PRIZE:   Six winners will be selected who will be invited to participate in a HOME MORTGAGE Q&A on Homefinders.com.  The winners will be identified by name, mortgage company and contact information and will be linked from the page with their Q&A content. 

NOTICE:  I realize that many ActiveRain loan officers are not licensed to do business in MD and Va.  I'm not looking for loan officers.  I have local loan officers to whom I refer business.  However, they are not ActiveRain participants.  The purpose of this Q&A library is public information and to enhance my web presence.  The rewards, if any, for participation in the Q&A pages on Homefinders.com will be possible business for the loan officers participating.  While I prefer to refer local buyers to local loan officers, Homefinders.com is available on the Internet nationally.  With proper SEO, these pages will have stand alone SERP.  If a loan officer in CA or NV participates, they may attract business in their states.  If I have a group of six participants rotating on the mortgage pages of Homefinders.com, there will be some exposure.  How much?  We'll see.

I look forward to reading and learning from the entries.  The panel of judges will be announced as soon as I can find three vic. . . . er um volunteers.  Judges will be announced in a day or so, volunteers, please send mail through ActiveRain. 

1.  JOIN THE GROUP, "ASK THE LOAN OFFICER".

2.  Post article to Public/Active Rain Community.

3.  Tag your post "ask the loan officer".

ENJOY.  Join the contest, participate in the Homefinders.com Q&A web page.  Lets get some Google juice.  Who knows, a buyer just might contact you.  

It's free advertising. 

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TAXES:  There have been some questions about annual taxes for the target area.  The table below reflects the actual TOTAL taxes, which includes county and town taxes of record for homes in Fairfax County SOLD in May 2008.

City TotalTaxes
Alexandria $5,450
Alexandria $5,203
Alexandria $6,415
Alexandria $5,220
Alexandria $6,564
Alexandria $4,551
Annandale $5,392
Annandale  
Annandale $4,651
Burke $4,861
Burke $5,809
Centreville $5,544
Centreville $5,615
Centreville $5,856
Centreville $5,375
Centreville $5,763
Centreville $5,386
Centreville $6,027
Chantilly $6,529
Fairfax $5,597
Fairfax $6,059
Fairfax $6,000
Fairfax  
Fairfax $4,856
Fairfax $4,774
Fairfax $5,074
Falls Church $6,208
Falls Church $5,735
Falls Church $5,941
Falls Church $5,780
Falls Church $5,541
Herndon $6,221
Herndon $5,471
Herndon $5,519
Herndon $5,026
Lorton $5,464
Lorton $5,712
Lorton $5,368
Reston $4,917
Reston $6,282
Springfield $5,310
Springfield $4,845
Springfield $5,029
Springfield $6,713
Vienna $4,796
Vienna $5,161
Vienna $5,291
Vienna $5,887
Vienna $5,405
Vienna $5,306
Vienna $5,673
   

THE CHALLENGE * THE CHALLENGE * THE CHALLENGE * THE CHALLENGE * THE CHALLENGE *

With the scenario above, what could mortgage lenders do? 

Question:  For the average price range for a Single Family Home in Fairfax County VA which is $605,500, how much income / credit score / would you be looking for to qualify a buyer with 5% down?  I'm using a 5% scenario for this exercise because I know our buyers and 5% down is a realistic scenario. 

OR

For an income of $123,000, with the above profile, what is the home buyers qualifying price range?

POINT OF CLARIFICATION:  THE ABOVE ARE HYPOTHETICALS.  

 

 
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29 Comments on CONTEST: A CHALLENGE TO ACTIVERAIN LOAN OFFICERS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

JUN
19
2008
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I am hoping you get some really good participation here. We've got some really talented loan officers on our platform, so hopefully, they won't disappoint!

7:57pm • #1
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Well, that was a quick feature. I look forward to learning from this post. Pass the popcorn.

8:06pm • #2
261,365 Points 59 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Lenn - I'm not licensed in that area but I'd like to at least add my two pennies.  As long as that's cool, I'm in.

8:25pm • #3
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Lenn, I am with Jason... not licensed in your state but would love to play along

8:47pm • #4
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I'm with both as well....not from or licensed in VA....but I have three cents...one more than Sardi.

9:50pm • #5
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Lenn,

Quick star there.  I'm not even a mortgage person, but I'm parking to learn...You deserved the star...Can't wait for the "product"...great call my friend!

10:06pm • #6

Good morning Fairfax, we're listening....

11:40pm • #7
JUN
20
2008
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Hi Lenn, That is an interesting challenge and one that may actually provide some creative answers. Don't let them use your $10,000 Grant Money for lenders fees, ( wouldn't buy that much of a rate buy down ) but don't allow anyway,  it would only confuse us, LOL

2:13am • #8

Hi Lenn,

I think that you have put your finger on one of the reasons that the Real Estate market is slower across the country.  People (Who aren't in the market now) with a good salary cannot affort to buy an average house in most areas.

All the best!

2:37am • #9
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YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE LICENSED IN MD OR VA. 

It's not necessary to be licensed in MD and VA.  One of the reasons I'm interested in sponsoring this CHALLENGE is to find loan officers who are interested in more than "do you have a buyer to send to me now?"  The benefits of this participation may be in SEO to your web site.  Frankly, I've never been able to find a local loan officer to understand the benefits of the Internet.  ActiveRain members are clearly more Internet savvy and light years ahead of their industry when it comes to Internet marketing or advertising.  THAT is why I'm not on the phone calling local lenders and asking them to participate in the Q&A pages on Homefinders.com.  Local lenders are all happy to have me feature them with a nice photo and their name and phone numbers, blah, blah, blah.  However, when it comes to writing a few lines of content every month, they come up dry.  The lenders I work with here are 20th Century loan officers and I'm looking for some 21st Century loan officers.

Further, I want to incorporate a comprehensive Q&A section on mortgage financing on Homefinders.com and I believe that it would be much more accurate, appealing to the public and interesting if much of the content is written by experienced loan officers who can write good factual, creative content.  We have the best of the best on ActiveRain. 

 

5:29am • #10

Lenn, excellent piece! Count this LO in as well, I am licensed in ALL 50 STATES. I look forward to it!

JD

Josh David
6:22am • #11
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Rich.  I'm hoping for good participation too.  I've wanted to do a Q&A on Homefinders.com for years
but never found willing participant loan officers. 

Missy.  This should be of interest to real estate agents and brokers too. 

Jason.  Thanks.  That's what I was hoping to hear. 

Joe.  Welcome and come on out and play. 

Larry.  That's the spirit.  Give it your best shot.  It's not about MD and VA.  It's about answering consumer questions.

Karen.  Thanks.  I've tried to do this with loan officers for years.  This might get some real interest. 

Rob.  Thanks.  We're listing and waiting.

William.  I don't believe we'll be seeing that.  The grant is limited to about $350K properties.  The average in Fairfax is,
as written, about $605,500.

Kevin.  I've been beating that drum for over two years.  The disconnect between what the average buyer can qualify
to buy and the average prices of homes is keeping many out of the market.   I keep saying "don't take those overpriced
listings"
and the buyers keep saying "if that's all I can qualify for, I don't want that crap".

Josh.
  I'm not looking for a loan officer.  I'm looking for a loan officer writer.

6:42am • #12

Lenn, did you get my submission? Your email address you have is coming back as undeliverable??

JD

7:34am • #13
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Hey Lenn, pretty neat. I just called one of my Fav Mortgage Brokers on AR told him about your BLOG. I look forward to him sharing his great wealth of information- Go Chris with Quicken Loans

11:51am • #14
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Josh.  Please read the below.  It's in the post above.  I am without e-mail until the migration from my old server to the new ones is complete.

"Any delay would be caused by the fact that I'm installing 2 new servers and it may take a couple of days to get everything on line.  Right now I have no e-mail and expect my web pages to be off line all day Friday June 20th.  The migration to the new servers may take all day Friday."

Terri.  Thanks.  We need more input. 

12:12pm • #15
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Ms. Harley- understand that you can't receive emails, I know that's a pain in today's environment!  Because we have not previously worked together, I have several questions so that I can more accurately put this information together for you!

  • Do you want me to base my numbers on $605,000 or $605,511.  I realize this is a very small difference, but as you and your clients compare my quote to others, I would like to be accurate.
  • I assume the first "quote" request for the $605ish sales price is actually a request for advertising data.  Meaning, this is a request for information that could be accurately used in advertising the property - as opposed to an actual pre-qual. 
  • If you are also interested in a pre-qual for this scenario, it would be helpful to know the following... an estimate of the borrowers total assets, the monthly debt and I'd like to know if this person is relocating with their employer.
  • Also, based upon the data provided, properties under $352,208 appear to be attached, meaning there could be a Homeowners Association.  If my analysis indicates that the family with $123,000 income falls in this attached housing price range - could you please give me an idea of what HOA dues are for your area?

Thank you very much for creating this contest - I look forward to providing my analysis!

2:18pm • #16
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I am in, but nervous.  I will give itmy best shot.  What are your current FHA loan limits there

2:42pm • #17
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Dave.  Relax.  I won't tell anyone.  Just give it your best shot.  Now, really, you should be able to find the FHA limit here.  Fairfax County, Virginia.

Eleanor.  The average price in FX Report.  Anything else that I wrote could be a typo.  Or, as they say, close enough for . . . . .    HOA fees are in the range of $80 a month.

What I'm looking for are loan officers who can use their imagination and be able to answer questions presented to them by prospective home buyers. 

3:34pm • #18
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Lenn, what a great way to get some participation from lenders and to help both you and the lenders at the same time.  Terrific idea and inspiration for a contest!

3:53pm • #19
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Lenn - Been swamped myself, I will try to come up with something over the weekend or at the beginning of next week.  Have a good weekend!

4:12pm • #20
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Brian.  Thanks.  I'm looking for some qualify content on Homefinders.com.  I think some of the guys at ActiveRain can benefit from a joint venture.  I've been trying to get local loan officers to do this for ages.  I had a page up for a local lender that we still use but he wouldn't write a single line.  I want fresh content, hence the Q&A format. 

Jason.  Look forward to it. 

5:35pm • #21
JUN
21
2008
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Lenn:  It looks like you're going to get a great group of lenders who have already stated an interest this time!  Congrat on that little gold star and I'm looking forward to reading the submissions!  There is alot of lending talent here in the Rain and I think this should be interesting.

Debe in Charlotte

10:58am • #22
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Mindy and Jay.  No idea.  So far, no one has submitted anything.  but, there's a week to go. 

I'm checking the tag "ask the loan officer" and the only article is this one.

Lenn

4:23pm • #24
JUN
22
2008
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Lenn,

Ooooo......a contest. I'll take a look and try to wrap my mind around it!

4:36am • #25
JUN
25
2008
131,089 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Okay - I just submitted my post to the Ask The Loan Officer - figured somebody needed to step up!  If you are looking for different information - kindly let me know!

5:07pm • #26
JUL
01
2008
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It was last minute, I got it in.  Thanks for the opportunity Lenn!

12:50pm • #27
JUL
06
2008

Lenn, did you ever get my submissio for the above scenario??

JD

3:43pm • #28
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Josh. 

No.  I did not.  I just checked the "Ask The Loan Officer" Group and don't see you as a member.  Also, I did not get any mail from you about it. 

http://activerain.com/blogsview/574278/THANKS-TO-ELEANOR-THORN

There were three entries.  So, I made them winners and invited them to participate in the Q&A on the Homefinders.com page.  So far,

If you're interested in participating in the Q&A, let me know.  If I publish your answer, it will include your name, phone number and link to your ActiveRain profile or web site. 

http://www.homefinders.com/ask-the-loan-officer.php

 

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