Another byproduct of the foreclosure mess across our Valley of the Sun is burglary.  With every new headline that splashes across one of the local periodicals about the rise in foreclosed properties and vacant homes, it seems that the scavengers among us become more and more emboldened.

Targeting vacant houses is no new trick.  A home with no one living in it is often perceived as an easy mark for appliances, air conditioning components, copper (wiring/plumbing), ceiling fans, etc.  With the less desirable segment of our population reading the same papers and watching the same television reports, they simply know there are more bones to pick clean right now.  I have no data to support this hypothesis, but I assume that a "For Sale" sign is much more likely to draw prying eyes to windows for a closer look than in years past.

This makes for quite the conundrum. 

A Realtor's "For Sale" sign is the hallmark of advertising to the public that a home is looking for a new owner.  While many will assert that the signpost is an antiquated dinosaur of advertising in the digital age, I maintain that it is still a vital beginning to a marketing campaign.  Not so much as the piece that will actually sell the home, but a prerequisite if you will.  Is the sign a tool to get the agent's name out amongst neighbors and future clients as much as a means of exposing the house?  To be sure, but the relationship is symbiotic.  Take your pick as to who is the shark and who is the remora, but it serves the interests of each.  Those very neighbors constitute one of the most effective sales forces that an agent can employ as he/she endeavors to sell a house.  Bob down the street has an aunt whose sister would love to move into the subdivision.  Mrs. Richards in the house on the corner would love to entice her parents to move closer to their grandchildren.  It's the same reason I tell my clients not to get upset when their neighbors take all of the flyers from the box.  They help spread the word, and often have a specific person in mind when they do so.  Sure there are those who are merely nosy, but Real Estate has always been a numbers game.

The additional values of the sign in the yard are self-evident.  The buyers who drive specific neighborhoods looking for new listings.  The agents who bring their clients to see the house look for their beacon to ensure they, in fact, have arrived at the right house.  Even now, when most buyers will do the lion's share of their research online, there is a role for the traditional methods of advertising.

So what to do?

Do you place a sign in the ground as you endeavor to seek highest value and best terms for your home?  Do you rely on other methods to attract buyers to your home while attempting to avoid painting the scarlet "V" (vacant) on your home?

In my humble opinion, as does everything in this world, it depends.  If you live in a highly desirable, centrally located area with vigilant neighbors and relatively low crime, I think it makes sense to employ every tool at your disposal to market your house.  There is a high level of traffic, both pedestrian and vehicular, that not only serves your advertising purposes, but as a possible deterrent to less savory activities as well.  If you own a house in the far reaches of the Valley, in a neighborhood where there is not an active HOA or neighborhood watch program, you just might forego the sign. 

Whichever route you choose, I urge you to either look in on the property regularly, or have someone do it for you.  Explosive weed growth, an accumulation of door hanger advertisements, papers in the driveway and general lack of activity at the house sing the bridge in any thief's siren song.  Just the daily appearance of a car in the driveway can discourage. 

This goes for the banks that are the proud owners of newly foreclosed upon property as well.

I have a buyer who is scheduled to close on a bank owned property in far East Mesa a week from today.  In the three weeks we have been in escrow, it has been burglarized twice.  She is having serious reservations about moving forward with the purchase at this point.  If we terminate the transaction due to safety concerns, the seller will have been doubly affected by the vandalism

Food for thought.

 
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33 Comments on "For Sale" or "Steal Me?" What does a Realtor's sign say?

JUN
20
2008
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Paul - These are some excellent points, as usual.  Speaking of explosive weed growth, papers accumulating in the driveway, etc., we have renters living next door who moved in sometime in March and have never spoken to us.  The yard is now slowly dying, and they appear to be gone most of the week.  Not helping values!

11:20am • #1
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I hope that they didn't destroy anything too much, Paul.  Your poor buyer must be really nervous!  We just had a story in our paper about a Realtor actually moving in to a vacant property to make it more attractive and secure.  It worked, and the neighbors were really happy to see someone care about the value of their neighborhood.

Banks really need to recognize the value of their asset and keep up the maintenance.  Not only does it make the home more appealing, it keeps it more secure.  I've heard of more banks hiring gardeners lately.  Perhaps the realization that the act of maintaining a home actually enhances their bottom line is penetrating their corporate mindset.

11:21am • #2
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Paul, great post. I know a realtor in our areaso dedicated that he goes every other week and takes care of the front and back yard. The lenders need to realize that keeping the house attractive also helps selling the home faster.

11:41am • #3

Good Points Paul! Although our area has been little effected by the foreclosures and vacant homes, most of our homes are vacation or second homes. We had a report this week by another Realtor when he went in with a client to show a home the hot tub top was off and there were clothes (all of them) on the roof. Since then we have checking on the home at least once a week.

11:49am • #4
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Hi Paul, great post as usual. 

This reminds me of a practice I used to employ but have for some reason abandoned over time.  There was a time when I would introduce myself to the neighbors of a new listing (vacant or not), provide my card and a flyer and encourage them to give me a call if there are any questions or concerns.  Of course, I recommended 911 first for any criminal activity, but calls to me for little things like trash or flyers, cars blocking their driveway during showings and the like.  I found that the neighbors were very welcoming of my introduction and of course, it put me in front of them rather than just being another name on another sign.

This reminds me that I need to get back to some 101.  :)

11:57am • #5
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Vacant house are to criminal gangs, like honey is to a bear. 

Or, my favorite:

 

Bands of criminals prowl for vacant properties and plan their quick in and out stripping of the home of easy to syndicate sell the parts, appliances, copper, etc. 

They also prowl the new home developments.  Builders often hire guards or off duty police to watch their properties once they are near finished and, in some areas, appliances don't go in until a day or two before settlement.  I've gotten to the pre-settlement walk-through and found the appliances gone twice.

These are organized gangs of very skilled criminals who know precisely what they're doing. 

This is one reason I don't give addresses on my IDX site. 

Good article. 

1:06pm • #6
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Good point Paul, that not always is a sign in the yard good for a vacant house. Although if crime is a problem in a neighborhood with a vacant house it may be a problem as well when the new buyer moves in. Not an easy call.

2:15pm • #7
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I will admit I lie.  When a seller wants me to list their vacant house I always say it is occupied in MLS for this very reason.  As long as the yard is in good shape and the windows are not completely bare we can get away with it.

Great post, Paul!

2:47pm • #8
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Paul,

I'm not so sure that there is an easy answer to the problem.  I do not place a sign in the yard normally of my listings that are foreclosed properties unless I get a call from the bank saying they want one there.  Now with that being said, if there is no copper in the home then I will.  Itry not to draw any more attention to the property than they already know.  Those that are going to break in have been tracking the property for a time anyway.

Don R.

3:46pm • #9
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Jason:  So the Clampetts move next door, eh?  No, never great for values, but given the tenuous nature of renters, there is always hope that the next set will look afer the place a little better.  You haven't stolen the copper wiring have you? ;)

Elaine:  In the big scheme of things, they really didn't inflict that much damage.  A couple of missing ceiling fans, microwave and some drywall damage.  My buyer is really more skittish about security upon move in than anything else, and I don't blame her in the least.  You can bet that the property will be insured by Smith and Wesson if she decides to go through with the purchase.

Mana:  There probably isn't a self-respecting agent among us who hasn't pitched in to some degree on an empty listing.  I've mowed lawns, fertilized, cleaned, etc, but it really does behoove the owner to seek a regular service.  Listing agents really need to visit vacant properties more frequently, if for nothing other than showing signs of life.  Anyone casing a property that they suspect to be vacant will be far less inclined to target it if there are frequent comings and goings.  Of course, I offer this as an expert opinion because I am a trained anti-theft ninja assassin ;)

Jason & Deanna:  A good idea to check on that house on a regular basis with that particular feedback!  Nothing like a romp in the hot tub to screw up a perfectly good showing.

Mandy:  I love that idea.  I sometimes introduce myself to the neighbors to invite them to an open house, but I like your approach even better.  It demonstrates your concern for the well being of your clients and works to keep more eyes on the property.  A win-win if I've ever heard one.  Good exposure for you and the property.  I'm going to use this.

Lenn:  New home developments are being pounded here to be sure.  I've heard of A/C units and appliances disappearing multiple times from the same property prior to COE.  The wise builders have taken the measures you mentioned.  In addition to the professional criminals, this new rash of foreclosures has likewise spawned disgruntled former homeowner syndrome, "DFHS."  I'm awaiting word on whether that will make the CDC's list of biohazard level 4 diseases.  Once you walk through some of the pits where the forclosee has punched holes in walls, stopped up sewage pipes, etc, you are never quite the same.

Gary:  Historically speaking, I tend to agree with you.  Nowadays, however, we are seeing such criminal enterprise touch the more desirable neighborhoods as well.  In broad sweeping terms, I believe a vacant house is a target of opportunity more than a sign of ongoing problems, but it does encourage a buyer to redouble their research on crime stats for the area.  I am no criminologist, but I believe property crime is not limited to the more marginal neighborhoods.  With an ever expanding freeway sytem that has really exploded in the last decade or so, it is easier than ever for thieves here locally to get anywhere in the Valley in a matter of 10-30 minutes.

Mel:  Not a bad idea.  I often will have the showing instructions say "Call Agent" on such properties for the same reason.  Not sure if thieves start their targeted home search online like buyers do today, but any precaution is a good one.

Don:  Good point about the house being tracked for a while prior to an actual break-in.  That's why I think activity at the house is paramount.  I'd also encourage listers of REO property to slap "Sold" or "Sale Pending" riders on the sign as soon as possible.  That will tell the casual observer that people are likely to be conducting inspections, walkthroughs, etc, and that there is a finite period of time that the house will remain vacant.  Not knowing exactly when the new buyer is moving in, I'd hazard that they would head on down the street to pick an easier target with no signs of life whatsoever.

6:59pm • #10
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We must have dense criminals here because while they hit new construction homes a LOT it's pretty rare that we have a vacant house broken into.  Last year we were hit three times (new const). I finally got ticked and parked the MH in the driveway and 'camped out' for a couple of weeks.  A comfy chair, cold beer and satellite tv... what else did I need?

8:29pm • #11
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Unfortunately, the majority of my current listings are vacant and it can definitely be a chore to keep them looking occupied.  There is a staging company here that will not only furnish the house for showings, but will supply a person to "live" in it as well, helping to head off some of these issues.

8:42pm • #12

We are lucky to have hawk-eyed neighbors here and not too many foreclosures.  So far, vandalism/theft hasn't been much of a problem for vacant properties.  Open Houses w/sticky fingered lookie loos seem more common lately. 

8:45pm • #13
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I didn't realize there were organized criminals like that but I guess should have.
9:06pm • #14
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Neighborhood watch is a good thing. It suspicious that with the rise of foreclosures there's also a rise in the incidence of house fires. Another pandemic ramification of the current state of the union is the calamity of the belly-up builder. Sub contractors are vandalizing the properties of broke builders, now in the courts and the trustees hands, to salvage what they can of their goods and services. I've seen lawns and flower beds ripped up, kitchen appliances and marble flooring torn out, registers and ventilation busted out of the walls and ceilings, ceiling fans torn out, not by roving burglars, but by vendors and contractors repossessing their goods before the trustee places a lock on the property, and million dollar homes at that. Sad !

9:19pm • #15
JUN
21
2008
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This is really good information.  I'll keep this top of mind whenever I list a vacant home.

5:57am • #16
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This post is excellent- we see it happening everywhere. 

7:21am • #17
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Good morning Paul -- enjoyed your post and the conversational thread. Excellent talking points!

7:49am • #18

I make a point to drive by several times a week to check on the property and pick up cards, but I hadn't thought about Amanda's practice of introducing herself to the neighbors.  Also, we do some staging of our vacant listings and always include several lamps on timers and CFL bulbs to give the impression to casual observers that the property is occupied.

9:21am • #19
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Though we are blessed with a comparatively low foreclosure rate and a modestly active market your points are ones I hadn't really thought of. Did hear of one lady in I think Seattle, that was moving from home to home and moving in... or as they used to say in the West...squatting

Anyway thanks for the food for thought.

9:23am • #20
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Jesse:  Sometimes a good old fashioned stakeout is what it takes.  Call me next time.  I'll bring the cards and whiskey!

Lisa:  We have a few such outfits as well.  It's a bit of a Catch 22, I find, because now you have to arrange showings around the temporary occupant.  It's great in theory, but you can lose a showing or two due to scheduling difficulties.  It definitely is a chore to keep up with vacant properties, and sometimes the task falls to the agent.  It is the owner's responsiblity, and sometimes the can-do attitude of a hard working agent can be relied upon a bit too heavily.  I do what is necessary to keep my listings looking presentable, but there is only so much one person can do pro bono. 

Sandra:  I'm not experiencing too many issues in the primary neighborhoods that I work, but I am seeing a lot of it in the outlying communities.  This is one reason why I will shuttle buyers most anywhere across the Valley to find a property, but I don't list too many properties in locales that require a cross town trip.  I need to be close enough to service the listing effectively in accordance with the suggestions I make in the post.  If it takes me longer than half an hour to get to the property, I'm not the right agent for the job.

Gene:  I think we are getting a mix of the more experienced criminals, opportunistic knuckleheads, disgruntled former owners and unpaid contractors right now. 

David:  Excellent points.  We are seeing much the same thing in new construction.  Unpaid subs often have little recourse other than persuing the new owner for payment.  These new owners are upside down in unfinished properties.  No money there.  So they sometimes do as you allude and scavenge the job site, unfortunately.  It just so happens that much of the new construction is occuring on the fringes of the Valley, so it is a softer target as well.

Adam:  I knew you would.

Allison:  I am not surprised to here you are having similar experiences in Florida.  I imagine the same is true of Nevada, portions of California ... basically anywhere there is significant inventory.

C Tann:  Good morning to you as well.  Thanks for reading this. 

AJ:  Sounds like you are ahead of the curve.  That's the kind of thing that needs to be done to stave off lonely house syndrome.  Increases value and security at the same time.  Well done.

Perrin:  Now did she squat in each house for a full two years or is she going to get hammered with capital gains?  ;)

 

10:33am • #21

We help our clients maintain their properties while they are listed.  We remove the phonebooks and advertising from the door on our vacant listing as well.  We have not had any issues with crime in one of our properties.  I would be hesitant about purchasing a home that has been broken into twice. Don't the thefts comeback after you replace the stolen goods?

11:31am • #22
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Mindy and Jay:  Crime has become so rampant among vacant homes in the far reaches of the Valley (new and resale), that the individual property really shouldn't be stigmatized by break-in(s).  The thieves won't make a return trip once they see signs of occupancy.  Too many easy targets out there.  This particular property is about 1/4 of a mile from the buyer's current residence, in a superior neighborhood.  Just a matter of the wrong person or people knowing it was is currently easy pickings.  It's not the home, it's the vacancy.  You can be sure that the buyer's pitbull and pistol will deter any future activity upon move-in.  As for the items removed, they won't be replaced by the seller.  It's a bank owned property.  It will be covered by a credit, so nothing will be put back in place to be stolen until after the close of escrow.

11:54am • #23
JUN
22
2008

Paul

I recently had all of the copper stolen out of one of my listings.  Its in the papers here fairly often here.   

6:48am • #24
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Jeff:  Copper theft is very prevalent in new construction here.  A client of mine purchased a home in a very sought after community called Desert Ridge last year, and our closing was delayed by copper theft.  They hit the entire street.  It happens all across the state, but it's always a bit shocking when the closer in communities are targeted.  Very brazen.

12:43pm • #25
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Great points, the condition of the property says im vacant much more than a sign

2:03pm • #26
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23
2008
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I don't think I could move into a house that had been burglarized twice.  I would be too creepy for me. 

I agree that this is going to be an ongoing problem for real estate agents. 

1:01am • #27

I had the copper wiring stolen from a vacant home and the power was on! Thieves will do anything to make a quick buck.  The interior of the home is alarmed, so they left that alone.  I was really happy when it closed escrow.

11:09pm • #28

In our area, the thieves are targeting vacant staged homes and taking the furniture and anything else they can carry out. 

11:44pm • #29
JUN
24
2008
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Paul, nice post..My worst was a forclosure home on a few acres..On the week before we were due to purchase it from the bank, I scheduled a showing with a prospective lease option tennent..The place was a bit remote, and could not be seen well from the road....Kids(?) had gotten in and just torn the place up...It was a horrible mess, and someone was left to deal with over 40 grand in damage. We dropped our offer by 50 grand, and the whole process had to start over with the lender...That was over 5 months ago, and it is still unresolved..SUch a shame to just destoy other peoples property

4:44am • #30
JUN
29
2008
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Fortunately we don't see too much of this in the active adult communities on the west side.  There are enough neighbors keeping a vigilant eye out that it discourages most of this type of activity.

10:00am • #31
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04
2008
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Great points.  Also don't forget about all the sellers of short-sales and soon to be foreclosures that are going in and stealing out appliances and ceiling fans... 

2:41am • #32
JUL
07
2008
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I'm afraid the same thing is going to start happening with vacant homes that are staged.  You could literally furnish a home.

12:03am • #33

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