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87 Comments on Want to buy it? Then get serious.
As a mortgage professional I was very interested to see that most of your "Advanced" points are financing related. I was curious if a buyer's agent is permitted to share credit score with the listing agent? I suppose if the buyer permits it, so be it, but as a lender I wouldn't give that information to even the buyer's agent. I can share information with the client but not with anyone else, and the bank's policy is firm on that point within our privacy restrictions. With increased restrictions on privacy and information sharing I wonder what else can be done to make my buyer's agent more capable of giving you what will turn into the "winning" offer?
One issue may be the pre-approval letters you are seeing are woefully inadequate. The State of Texas requires the use of either a pre-qualification or pre-approval form. For samples see pre-qualification form or pre-approval form. I wouldn't accept a pre-qualification form if I was a listing agent as it doesn't have enough information behind the approval. You may want to provide these forms back to the mortgage loan officer you get a "pre-qualification" letter from as a standard of what your seller will accept for "pre-approval".
I can understand your desire to review offers only from capable buyers and to select from competing offers one that is most likely to close. That's why you are a great listing agent!
Great post....
Ken Stampe - Bank of America Mortgage Lending
Mikey, I actually work with several investors right now and ALL are buying. It's really not so much timing as doing your homework. And it depends on why you are buying. In Stan's case it will be for a primary resident and for a long period of time. If someone is wanting to buy, who knows they will be moving in 3 years, then I agree, rent, don't purchase. To risky.
My statement "the sideline is for rookies" was a little too cocky. But it does have some merit behind it. For a true investor, that does their homework, this is a much better time to buy than it was 2-3 years ago. I never quite understand why folks buy when it's a sellers market. They wouldn't do that in any other investment market. With the amount of foreclosures, desperate sellers, short sales and inventory on the market, right now is a great time to invest in RE. In my opinion.
"The Buyer's credit score. I will love you for this one. If they have great credit, then prove it to me. I won't even show the Sellers. But it sure does make me warm and fuzzy."
Credit score alone is no indication of their ability to buy a house. Why do RE agents believe knowing the FICO score of the buyer gives them more insight to a buyers financial ability to buy a house then a full application, and accompying docs, taken and reveiwed by a mortgage professional?
It is the equivalent of taking the value from Zillow.com as a true appraisal.
Ken, will you move to Florida?
Dennis, If I get a pre-approval from the LO I should be safe to assume they have verified employment debt ratios etc.....the credit score will tell me if they are lying to me or not. It IS NOT all inclusive but it is a very important indicator for me if they are submitting an offer with 100% financing and they have a score of 582. If this is the case, I need more info before my seller makes a decision. If someone has a score of 725, it is an excellent indicator that these folks know how to handle their finances. So knowing the FICO score gives me tremendous insight into the financial situation of the buyer. To compare it with a value from Zillow is just not even close to being the case.
Ken I am with you on that. I am not a huge company like BoA. But if a real estate agent calls, listing or selling. I don't care what they have in writing from who. I will give you general information pertenant to the transaction only. I tell the borrower ahead of time what information is commonly requested by a listing agent, why they are looking for that information, etc. And I tell them to watch out about providing too much information that may cause them to be discriminated against financially. I have had borrowers loose deals because the listing agent requested credit info. The bid was a little higher but they were deemed "subprime" so the other offer won. This was more than a year ago, now I would understand those concerns, but a year ago... their money is still green.
Mikey,
What wasn't clear? I've always been BRUTALLY honest and upfront about my plan of action. Buy; but buy right.....
Buying a house, for me, is a lifestyle choice. I know a lot of people look at a house as an "investment", but that's not where I put my money......to make money. However, I'd be an idiot not to take advantage of the market and insure a return.
I have an old saying: In confusion, there is profit. And the housing market is pretty "confused" right now. :)
Having been on both sides of the table, I am so close on this list. However, even with all the stuff, save for the FICO and the financial statement, my clients still didn't get the house because it was a newbie listing agent this week-ARRGH! My clients had a substantial (almost 9% downpayment) and a BOA letter, too! The newbie listing agent rejected my offer by email and only after I left a message to get an update.
However, my other client just got their house, despite an 11th hour competing offer because the listing agent said she likes smart agents, making me very happy :-) They didn't even look at the other offer!!
Love letters are terrific in multiple offer situations but lose their effectiveness if they are produced by the agent instead of the family. I can tell the difference between them. They are a nice touch for touchy feelys but it's tough to get those past analytical types (or get them to write them.)
Great topic. Bet you helped a lot of folks today.
BB:
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