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Danger - Original thinking aheadAlthough I have always held the belief, and felt strongly that it was correct, as usual, I like to have hard irrefutable facts backing up my opinion, no matter how strong or how much I feel I can justify my belief.  As mentioned in several of my blogs lately, I have said most people that get reverse mortgages are helped and it can prevent foreclosure, and rarely are they foreclosed upon.  The fact that a reverse mortgage can prevent foreclosure, is just that, a fact.  The HUD/FHA backed HECM reverse mortgages are designed that if a borrower qualifies with enough equity, their application is processed much quicker - usually 1-2 weeks as opposed to about 4-6 weeks on a normal application.  I can speak for that, as I have helped five different companies over the past three years get their reverse mortgage loan application paperwork signed, and then returned to do the signing as well.  So I knew the time frame and their averages.  What I believed strongly to be the case, but didn't have the evidence to back up, was how rare or not rare a foreclosure was on a reverse mortgage.

Until now of course!  I looked at Lis Pendens filed in Charlotte County for the week of June 16 to June 20, 2008.  While LP is not the exact foreclosure, it is the first step in the process.  Obviously, if it will be foreclosed upon, this step must happen first.  Most LP's that are filed, will usually end up in foreclosure.  Obviously, not all, but the majority probably will be.  here is what I found

  • I found 306 people listed
  • Of these 208 were different people served - that is, eliminating the 'from' portion of the website and leaving only the 'to' people
  • Of these, after deleting commercial foreclosures, and multiple people served the same summons (ie: husband & wife - count this as one) I was down to 61
  • The number of these that had reverse mortgages on them - - - - ZERO

Judges GavelAs I felt all along, it was very few.  I'm not surprised, and am curious how long I would have to search to come across one, but I'm sure it would be a while, and I just don't have that extra time.  But 0/61 makes my point very load and clear - reverse mortgages CAN be foreclosed upon, but they are VERY, VERY rare, and as stated before, they actually can HELP a person stay in their home and PREVENT foreclosure!  Another belief of mine now backed up by proof of hard statistical facts that cannot be denied.

 

 

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10 Comments on So, how many Reverse Mortgages are being forclosed upon?

Ronald- They can be foreclosed upon? How is that? As arent they only required to make a payment when the homeowner either sells the home or passes away? I had a lawn care client who had a reverse mortgage that passed away several months ago and the family tried to give the house back to the bank as it is not worth what is owed on it and the bank said they won't take it for atleast a year, and the family cannot sell it for less, unless they want to pay the difference. The only way I can really see for them to be able to foreclose on a home with a reverse mortgage is if the homeowner passes away and the family doesn't sell it.

06/25/2008 07:04 AM by Chris Horton (Horton's Lawn Care L.L.C.)


This is a good post and the title caught my eye. I was sitting here thinking how does a reverse mortgage get foreclosed

06/25/2008 07:07 AM by Charlie Ragonesi Big Canoe homes, Jasper ,Ball Ground,Benttree,Dahlonega (All Mountain Realty)


Ronald, Spread the word....keep the fire going strong! A Reverse mortgage for the right person is a fantastic, can't go wrong, high regulated, nobody gets screwed, everybody wins option. After  I took the time to understand  them, I am a HUGE proponent of them. In fact, there is some discussion that they are going to relax the age linits. If this happens, there would be a significant reduction in the number of foreclosures nationwide. Hooray for the creative thinkers in the world. Incidentally, this product has been around for over 45 years....1961 to be exact. Awesome concept, awesome blog/ Thank you

06/25/2008 07:08 AM by Bo Hussung/ Title services in all 50 states (Cogent Closing Associates)


Chris & Charlie, it is rare, but the most common reason would be they do not pay their property taxes and/or homeowners insurance.  If they owe condo fees and get behind on that, could be another.  As stated, it can happen, but it is very rare.  Chris, something is probably a little wrong in what they told you, but almost correct.  If the family doesn't want it, it should be put up for sale immediately.  Doesn't mean it will sell fast, especially in todays market, but once for sale with a Realtor, with a realistic price, they will get what they can for the property, and if that falls short of the mortgage, the HUD Mortgage Insurance required on them will make up the difference.  Bo, your welcome, I agree, after learning so much as CNSA, I now am big proponent for the same reasons you stated!  Chris, Charlie & Bo, thanks for stopping by!

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06/25/2008 07:14 AM by Ronald Gillis, CNSA Southwest Florida Notaries, Port Charlotte, 941-7-NOTARY (Southwest Florida Notaries (Mortgage Notary Signing Agent))


Not enough is understood about reverse mortgages!  And it doesn't help when some repeat what they've heard without truely understanding.  Thanks for the reaearch!

06/25/2008 07:16 AM by Laura Giannotta Keller Williams Atlantic (Keller Williams Atlantic Shore )


Ronald- Great point I never thought about those reasons for foreclosure as we hear sooooo much more about the other reasons. Good reminder you can lose your home for other things then not making the mortgage payment.

06/25/2008 07:18 AM by Chris Horton (Horton's Lawn Care L.L.C.)


Great post!  I think any borrower breach of the mortgage loan agreement would trigger a foreclosure. Failure to pay property taxes or insurance premiums come to mind.  Perhaps a change from owner-occupied to non-owner occupied would trigger a foreclosure, too.

 

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06/25/2008 07:36 AM by David Petrovich (S.P.O.C.H. a 501c3 Charitable NP)


Laura, boy could I not agree more!  They are VERY MISUNDERSTOOD, even by those in the mortgage and Real Estate industries it is amazing and sad!  When they know the CORRECT facts, suddenly they are shocked and realize Reverse Mortgages AREN'T so bad after all.  Chris, these are some of the more common, and as I said LP doesn't mean they will even lose their home.  Even most on fixed incomes can come up with the tax & insurance required payments. Dave, I forgot that one, but you are correct, that can be another big reason - although rare, I am sure it does happen. Thanks Laura, Chris & Dave for stopping by!

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06/25/2008 07:50 AM by Ronald Gillis, CNSA Southwest Florida Notaries, Port Charlotte, 941-7-NOTARY (Southwest Florida Notaries (Mortgage Notary Signing Agent))


While reverse mortgages might not be bad overall, I ran into one situation where an elderly homeowner with beginning states ofdementia was convinced to take a lump sum reverse mortgage with a name-brand lender to give the money to her son to buy a home.  Having spent considerable time around this woman, I can tell you there was no way any reasonable person could not know she did not have the mental capacity to do this.

06/25/2008 08:53 AM by Joe Virnig, "No Ordinary Joe" (RE/MAX Gold Coast REALTORS, Ventura County, California)


Joe, I actually did a lon signing for a woman that did this for her daughter as well.  I thought it was great and had never thought of that prior to her doing it.  Great way to help kids, and keep roof over their head - just need to pay taxes & homeowners insurance.  Almost like giving inheritance early.  Joe, maybe she didn't fully understand, but it also may not have been such a bad thing anyway.  Thanks for stopping by!

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06/25/2008 09:02 AM by Ronald Gillis, CNSA Southwest Florida Notaries, Port Charlotte, 941-7-NOTARY (Southwest Florida Notaries (Mortgage Notary Signing Agent))


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