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Realtors® .....Short Sales and lost mitigation departments.....Are they all on the same page?

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Real Estate Agent with Brokered by eXp Realty LLC SL # 3014652

There are many different opinions on how to do a short sale.

Some people say they take an average of 90-180 days....some took 8 months and some have close in 50 days. I have been lucky to have closed my most recent one about 4 months ago in 47 days! WOW!

It really all depends on the lender....how many mortgages the borrower has....are they two different banks or are they the same bank and the buyer is approved by the same lender...how upside down they are and of course the worst part is having to call them once a week just to see if they lost the 50 pages of paperwork you sent them. But it really all depends on the situation so anything is possible in a short sale.

You might even get a person who just got back from a relaxing vacation and decided to make it easier on the borrower because they were in a good mood. Who really knows. I would love to interview someone in the loss mitigation department just to get a day in the life of story...that would be interesting to hear what they have to say.

No matter how you slice it there will always be different views regarding the process...the success rate and how long the dilemma will last before the banks give you some answers.

I bet if you asked most Realtors®  that are still in the business today if they've ever completed or even attempted a short sale...most will tell you they've experienced it one way or another. Some will tell you that their clients weren't patient enough to wait it out and end up moving on to something else and even might switch agents in hopes of finding an easier deal to do. Then there are the ones who have successfully closed on some without too many issues.

Most of the issues come up early on during the process. Even though the listing agent is required to disclose the short sale process in the remarks section in the MLS.

MOST REALTORS®  DO NOT READ! And that is why most deals fail.

When I list a property as a short sale I usually speak to the agent just to make sure we are on the same page. Most of them like to brag how they know it all yet their clients back out too early because they don't disclose the basic process to them so they never make it past the first 30 days and most of these deals die within the first 30 days. I have been very lucky to have been able to successfully close them with and without an attorney.

I remember back in 2002 when I had this client who listed their property with me....not knowing they were going to be up side down when they sold. I didn't even know what a short sale was. I would always have  closings where the clients were receiving money and now I was faced with my first one where they were going to have to bring it. This situation was long ago so I didn't even know what in the word a short sale was back then and I bet you if you ask the same agents now .....most wouldn't have known what one was either. I had no idea of the process. Short sales weren't as popular back then as they were in the 1980's.

Well today they are just part of the wonderful world of the Real Estate Transaction.

Now back to the general process. I'm not going to go far into detail on how to fill out the paperwork so I'd rather skip that part since there have been many other articles written on it. This post is more tailored to the anguish of waiting for the unknown.

Normally you can kiss the first 30 days away. That is the time the banks require to hire the negotiator. Luckily I just got a negotiator on one that was submitted about 25 day so I just saved the clients 5 extra days of anguish. Since there was a call put into the bank they were kind enough to inform us that there was a negotiator assigned and we even got a name!

The next step will be when the negotiator contacts us. We can only find out the status by calling someone in loss mitigation but one the negotiator contacts us they will then do their initial BPO (Brokers Price Opinion) on the subject property. Once we establish who the point people are then I will gather all of my comps and wait to meet the appraiser at the property. Yes..you heard that right...I WILL MEET THEM AT THE PROPERTY! I will then volunteer all the data I pulled to help support the purchase price as well as being able to justify that I have tried to get the lender back as much of the value as I can for the property.

I will then go over the condition of the property as well as explain the current market conditions of the neighborhood. In this particular neighborhood there is a very high ration of short sales and or foreclosures so I have to be able to give them as much knowledge of the neighborhood to justify the value. I'll also explain how i came to the price. How many times it has been reduced due to no activity and I'll tell them the price was only reduced to stimulate activity.

If the BPO does not come in your favor there is a 50/50 chance that your deal will die!!

The BPO is in so now the lender will:

  • Counter
  • Decline
  • Approve

Ok so now you have your approval! You're almost at the end of the road but there are a couple of my tasks you need to complete.

The approval letter will give you all the conditions:

  • The net amount to them
  • The commission that will be paid.
  • Closing date not to exceed X date
  • Seller to receive $0
  • Whether on not they are allowing you to pay the 2nd mortgage
  • If they want the seller to sign a Promissory note.
  • If they will issue a deficiency judgment.
  • How it will be reported on the sellers credit report.

Anything you can do to help the cause. Don't be lazy and sit back and just hope that it will all work out. You might as well go for it full force since you spend all this time trying to make these difficult deals successful.

For more information please contact Neal The Real Deal Bloom-Realtor® /Remax Premier Assoc.

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Comments (18)

Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

All depends on the bank, and the seller, and the buyer, and the listing agent and the buyers agents and the borrower's lender.  That's all.

We closed one in 37 days from list to settlement.  Everything went according to plan.  Some never sell.  Some take 3 months. 

Banks do not know how to sell real estate.

Jun 25, 2008 10:46 AM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

Lenn,

You and I know that I could list a million other reasons...sad but true.

Jun 25, 2008 10:50 AM
Desiree Daniels
RE/MAX Tri County - Robbinsville, NJ

Ya know I had one like Lenn that from contract to approval closed in under a month and then I have 3 others listed right now.. its like pulling teeth.

I am trying to keep the end goal in sight but it does get difficult

Jun 25, 2008 10:54 AM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

Desiree,

It's the breed of RE...very common. I once told a seller that the whole neighborhood was for sale and they were all short sales:)

Jun 25, 2008 10:57 AM
Anonymous
Anonymous

Short Sales...by far not my favorite thing to do at all. But it goes along with the territory and like you said you might as well go for it full force. I think there here for the long run!

Jun 25, 2008 11:07 AM
#5
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Many short sales specialists in our area Neal. They are thriving cause there are so many of them out there. But as your post points out, you have to know what you are doing. Great overview.

Jun 25, 2008 11:20 AM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

Gary,

Everyone is doing them and they are pretty common.

Never the best option but sometimes there is no other way other than foreclosure.

Jun 25, 2008 11:40 AM
Monika McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Hampstead, NH
Southern NH & the Seacoast Area

Opps...this was me.

 

Short Sales...by far not my favorite thing to do at all. But it goes along with the territory and like you said you might as well go for it full force. I think there here for the long run!

Jun 25, 2008 11:41 AM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

Monika person:)

Thank you...I didn't want not to address you:) No one enjoys them but there are as many of them or more than normal deals so sometimes we have to bite the bullet.

Jun 25, 2008 11:50 AM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

Just as so many others I have a short sale close in less than 45 days and I have one now that is just about to hit 90.  The BPO came in a while ago and every offer I've had was ABOVE the BPO price but still we wait for the negotiator to call us.  Please get a grip banks we have buyers for your properties and can save you the time and expense of a foreclosure.

Jun 25, 2008 01:58 PM
Richard Weisser
Richard Weisser Realty - Newnan, GA
Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional

Neal...

Great treatise on the nature of short sales, what you need to know and what you should expect. Excellent post.

Jun 25, 2008 03:23 PM
Zachry Feuer
eXp Realty - Denver, CO

Neal,

Great post! Reality is that we all better get quite familiar, patient, and able to speak to our clients about short sales as they ARE our market for a while. I have been a part of several now from both sides and they are difficult enough when expectations are set properly. If you do not set the stage you might as well give up before you start.

 

Jun 25, 2008 03:31 PM
Ray Saenz
Exit Realty Laredo - Laredo, TX
Homes for Sale in Laredo, TX - Texas, Realtor

Neal,
I love short sales and I love challenges, we always learn something and I enjoy to share information with prospects/clients, it is very interesting to know which lenders are good and which  lenders are bad, actually we say "Lenders", but the truth is that the people or staff involved in the company are who make a good or bad lender, there are many negligent employees around there who do not love their job and they do not do a good work in loss mitigation deparments, they just work about salary and but do they really earn it? I do not think so.

 you are giving me a good idea what to write :) for a new blog :P

Great blog Brad

Jun 25, 2008 04:43 PM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

Cindy,

Like I said before...it's a different situation depending on the situation:)

Richard,

Thanks

Zacry,

I just think you should disclose it as the unknown and you must be very patient.

Ray,

I'm not sure who you are talking to...Brad who?

Jun 26, 2008 09:49 AM
Ray Saenz
Exit Realty Laredo - Laredo, TX
Homes for Sale in Laredo, TX - Texas, Realtor

Neal,
Are you crazy? please read above, I wrote "Neal" LOL, just kidding my friend, sorry , I again made the same mistake, my bad !!!!!!   but sometimes I confused Brad with Neal and Neal with Brad, I hope that you do not get mad, Brad is a very smart fellow so you do, Great blog !

Jun 26, 2008 12:05 PM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS
Neal - when we represent a seller we're always proactive in meeting the appraiser. I get really frustrated when the lender on a short sale takes 4 months to give you a decision, and then expects a closing in 4 days!
Jun 26, 2008 12:53 PM
Diane Aurit
LKN Realty, LLC - Mooresville, NC
Lake Norman Real Estate

Neal, thanks for this info about short sales.  I haven't had to do one yet as our market is slow but not too bad however I did several in the early 1990's in California.  It doesn't sound like much has changed.  BTW, in CA we always met the appraisers...not the case here.  Now, to be fair, some of us REALTORS do read:)

Jun 27, 2008 03:19 AM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

Sharon,

Sometimes the lender does a drive by like my last one..they didn't even call me yet it still went through but yes it does stink when they wait until the end and then say no.

Diane,

Try it...you won't like it:) I think the biggest problem is too msny cooks in the pot.

Jun 27, 2008 09:11 AM