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A few years ago I was doing a closing with a buyer client.  The seller's attorney was new and the listing agent wasn't present at the closing.  The attorney never asked for the smoke detector certification at the closing.  He went through the paperwork, passed out the checks, and sent everyone on their merry way.  I was holding my check and the seller's waiting for the go-ahead to distribute them when he would go on record at the registry of deeds.  It was a long wait.  After three hours, I finally called him.  He admitted that he didn't have the smoke cert and was trying to reach the listing agent who was in Vermont and out of cell range to get the document.  I waited a little longer. 

I received a call from one of the partners in the law firm who yelled at me, accusing me of pulling the wool over his attorney's eyes - basically trying to blame me for the attorney's mistake.  I pointed out to him that I was the buyer's agent and had no reason to try to dupe the attorney into missing the smoke cert.  He finally calmed down, but the tirade left me with a wary feeling about him.  Clearly, he was trying to limit his liability. 

In the meantime, the buyer was unpacking in his new home.  All of his stuff was there and he was settling in.  And then we found out - the listing agent hadn't gotten a smoke detector certification.  It was December 30 and there were no appointments left on New Year's Eve, so we would have to wait until January 2 to get the smoke cert.  We hadn't actually closed - even though the paperwork was signed, keys were passed and the buyer had moved in. 

We needed an occupancy agreement so that the buyer could legally stay in the place where his stuff was already and which he had already handed in cash for.  The seller's attorney offered to draft the agreement since it was their fault we were in this predicament.  By this time, I had headed home - 45 minutes from the house and my client.  They faxed it to the listing agent who was back in town and she offered to take it to the buyer for signature.  I told her I wanted to see a copy first.  The buyer's attorney was nowhere to be found, so I needed to look out for my client. 

The seller's attorney was supposed to fax a copy of the agreement to both of us, but he only sent it to the listing agent. I had told the buyer not to sign anything until he talked to me and got the OK.  So the next thing I know, I get a call from the buyer saying the listing agent was at his door asking for a signature.  I told her I didn't have a copy of the form and I needed to see it before he could sign it.  They headed back to her office and faxed me the form.  At the top of the form it said "Use and Occupancy Agreement", but this is where any resemblance to an actual use and occupancy agreement ended.  The rest of the form said that the buyer would not store his belongings in the property or occupy the property until the smoke detector certification was complete and that if he did, he'd hold the attorneys harmless for any damage due to fire that might occur before closing.  Note that - he wouldn't hold the seller harmless, he'd hold the attorneys harmless.  There was absolutely nothing in the agreement that indicated anything that a standard use and occupancy agreement would have.  (Yes, the attorneys knew that he had moved in already - hence the need for the Use and Occupancy Agreement in the first place.) 

I told my client not to sign the form and I called the attorney to tell them that he wouldn't be signing it.  I had to be careful not to be seen as trying to practice law without a license, so I told the seller's attorney that we would have my client's attorney review the form and when they OKed it, he would sign it.  Since we hadn't been able to get a response from his attorneys this whole time, it seemed a fair bet that they wouldn't get back to us until after the closing anyway.  And I couldn't imagine his attorney approving his signature on that document.

The moral of the story - ALWAYS read what the attorney/title company sends you.  Even if you think you already know what it says.  I can't tell you how many times I've had contracts that I've sent back for correction come back without the corrections having been made.  And this time, outright deception from the seller's attorney.  As our clients' representatives, we need to be diligent in this as in everything.  Don't take it for granted - READ EVERYTHING.

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Kelle's bookKelle Sparta is the author of The Consultative Real Estate Agent - Building Relationships that Create Loyal Clients, Get More Referrals, and Increase Your Sales, as well as being a speaker and trainer specializing in the real estate industry. Kelle is the founder of Sparta Success Systems, a real estate training company that provides tools, products, and training to empower agents and brokers to create lives and businesses they can love. For more information, visit her website at http://www.spartasuccess.com/. © 2008, Kelle Sparta.

 

5 Comments on Read Everything - You Never Know What They Might Sneak In

Kelle:  It is quite obvious that everything needs to be read.  I was surprised about the smoke-detector certification, and that attorneys were involved.  Here, things like that are handled routinely in the home inspections... which should always be extremely thorough.  And... to me it sounds like just another way for attorneys to wiggle into a transaction.  Also... in Texas... the only time we need an "occupancy permit" is when the home is a new home, and being transferred into the name of it's first owner occupant.  Thanks for sharing... I learned something... :)

06/26/2008 12:17 AM by Fort Worth Real Estate - - - Karen Anne Stone (RE/MAX Trinity)


Dear Karen Anne,

The smoke detector certificate doesn't affect the occupancy certificate - that is also issued here (MA)only on new homes or on homes that were once condemned and then rehabbed.  The Use and Occupancy Agreement is the equivalent of a short-term lease between the buyer and the seller. 

And here in MA, attorneys do the closings - not title companies.  (Yes, I know, we live in the dark ages up here in the Northeast - Connecticut was the same way when I worked there.)

06/26/2008 12:25 AM by Kelle Sparta and the Sparta Success Systems Team (Sparta Success Systems)


Good advice, but what is the smoke detector certification? Never heard about it.

Also, if you tell your client that reading the document, it does not look that it as any protection for your client, and if he agrees with you, couldn't you tell the attorney that your client does not want to sign the document?

06/26/2008 12:37 AM by Jon Zolsky (FunCoast Realty LLC)


Dear Jon,

In Massachusetts, the fire department has to come into the home as it's being sold and confirm that there are enough smoke detectors in place, that they are in the correct location(s) and that they are in good working order.  Without the cert, you are not allowed to close on the home. (For the record, we also have what's known as a Title V inspection for septic systems to make sure they are operable and well engineered - this often causes much more expensive problems than the smoke certifications since Title V has really strict provisions and many older septics can't pass.)

Yes, the challenge wasn't in telling the attorney he didn't want to sign it.  The challenge was me not getting dragged into court for practicing law without a license - which I am certain would have been a concern with this attorney and his expression of anger.  The attorneys around here are really protective of their roles and it's safest to avoid treading on their territory - especially when they are feeling upset and defensive as this one certainly was.  He could have made any kind of assumption he wanted about what my role was in the client's decision and I still would have ended up in court. 

The moral - you can be right and you can still be in court defending yourself.  It's not fair, but it's life.

06/26/2008 08:16 AM by Kelle Sparta and the Sparta Success Systems Team (Sparta Success Systems)


Sage advice and an excellent example of what can happen.  It's unfortunate that there are those out there wanting to pull the wool over our eyes and our clients' eyes.

06/26/2008 11:15 AM by Howard Wilson (Wilson Than Real Estate)


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