0 down loans going the way of the woolly mammoth?
by Kaushik Sirkar, Chandler REALTOR®
Chandler AZ Real Estate

There has been lots of news recently with regards to the troubles being faced by subprime lenders.  What has caused these lenders to fall into the lending doldrums?  I suppose its a combination of factors.  Yes, they charge some hefty interest rates - but these rates are on very risky loans - to folks who couldn't obtain financing at 'market' rates.  They were also lending at very high LTVs - many cases 100% LTV.  Then you have a general softening of the 'National' Real Estate market where homes in some localities are worth less than what the buyers paid for them.  During rapid appreciation, if a buyer were in danger of default, they could always sell the home and pay the lender what was owed.  Guess what - that doesn't work without appreciation, and it REALLY DOESN'T work with depreciation.

This is all 'old' news.  We all read the headlines.  But today I saw something 'new' that really intrigued me.

Countrywide is the nations largest mortgage lenders.  They have apparently decided they will no longer allow 100% LTV, or ZERO DOWN loans.

WOW.

Lets say you have great credit and a bunch of money in the bank.  You'd like to purchase a home zero down - save your cash for alternative investments.  SORRY, Countrywide won't let you do it.  Apparently too many of their 100% LTV loans have resulted in default.  Luckily, you can always go to another lender to get your 100% LTV loan.

Until the other lenders (if??) follow suit.......

 

Thanks for Reading :)

Kaushik Sirkar, Chandler Realtor
http://www.homesphx.com

 
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22 Comments on 0 down loans going the way of the woolly mammoth?

We had a chat about this recently with one of our lender resources. She predicted by May of this year there will be no more zero down loans.

Too bad, yet another good thing ruined because people who should not be using the program did.

kk

03/13/2007 12:16 AM by Kristal Kraft ~ Denver Real Estate (The Berkshire Group Realtors)


Great article on Inman tonight about the subprime lender washout.  Part 1 of a 4 part series.

03/13/2007 12:30 AM by Buyer's Broker of Northern Michigan, LLC


Kristal - I will remember your friends prediction.  I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see it come to fruition....

Stefan - Thanks for sharing.  I took a peek and washout describes it perfectly!

03/13/2007 03:08 AM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


That will make it very difficult for those currently in 100% financing to do any refinancing - boggles the mind as to the potential fallout.

03/13/2007 02:05 PM by Tony Marriott, Associate Broker, CRP, CLHMS, CRB, CRS ~~ Phoenix Arizona (Keller Williams Realty Professional Partners)


Tony - Yup, this could be huge.  And it will affect those folks who have money to put down but would rather invest it.  It'll prevent some underqualified folks from getting into a home and it will possibly also deter some qualified folks!

03/13/2007 04:15 PM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


Kaushik,    The interesting thing about history is that it tends to repeat itself.  Particularly when dealing with cyclic matters such as real estate and financial markets.  We've seen this all before....does everyone remember the RTC?   Same industry, different decade.....

What's the difference between a 0 down loan and a Wooly Mammoth?..........................At least a Wooly Mammoth turns to fossil fuel!

 

"tangerine" 

 

 

03/13/2007 09:56 PM by Tom Giansante (The Title Company of Jersey)


Kaushik, we have only seen our Subprime Venders tighten up on the 100% financing.  All our other programs are still available to us,  and we have not heard of any changes coming down as of yet.

Countrywide was doing loans that a lot of us would not do, that might be why they are now in the situation that they are in. 

03/13/2007 10:42 PM by George Souto (McCue Mortgage Co.)


Tom - Thanks for the example.  Sometimes folks tend to forget just how cyclical real estate can be.....

George - Interesting.  What other big names were also doing lots of subprime loans, in your estimation??

03/14/2007 02:57 AM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


Kaushik, I don't do a lot with Subprime, but the Venders that I have are New Century, Option One, and Long Beach.  All of them have done away with the 100% for now and cut back to 95% LTV.

03/14/2007 07:48 AM by George Souto (McCue Mortgage Co.)


hey guys, note that the 0 down are tightening up for SUBPRIME, not the prime loans.

There are still lots of 0 down loans, maybe not for stated income, bad credit situations, and maybe we should not have been doing loans like that....  

03/14/2007 06:48 PM by Mia


Great Blog. I am very happy I use FHA and KHC for my loans to 100%

Ben

03/15/2007 09:29 AM by Q Q (Q)


George- Thanks for the info!

Mia - Very true, appreciate the comment!

Ben - Thanks!

03/17/2007 10:14 PM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


There are many factors that led to this problem and it's a shame a lot of people won't be able to obtain a loan. But there has to be some common sense to lending. This crisis never should have gotten to this point.

03/21/2007 10:10 AM by Debbie Malone, RE/MAX, Lynchburg, Smith Mountain Lake, Real Estate Agent (RE/MAX 1st Olympic, ABR, e-PRO, ASP)


Debbie - You are so right.  Things just spiraled out of control for a few years and that greatly contributed to our unsustainable boom!

03/21/2007 02:57 PM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


The significant changes that have occurred among monoline subprime players in the last few months are causing a ripple effect that is being felt across the housing sector. Mainstream media has taken a special interest in the rapidly changing subprime environment because of what it means to homeowners and the economy as a whole. With the tremendous media coverage on this topic, it is no surprise that some of it has been inaccurate.

In particular, media outlets recently reported that Countrywide is no longer offering 100% financing. To be clear, this is not the case. We continue to offer 100% financing to prime customers and full-doc subprime customers. We also allow 100% subprime financing through the Competitor Match program. However, the number of competitors offering this program has shrunk markedly over the last few days.

In addition, changes to our extreme "Alt A" quidelines will be announced shortly as well. We should expect this tone and trend of tighter credit guidelines to continue for the foreseeable future as the market adjusts to the reality of a new credit risk paradigm.

We view the current changes in the subprime market as highly positive for Countrywide. I want to reiterate that Countrywide is better positioned than any company in our industry to successfully leverage the opportunities that will arise through this current market consolidation. As with previous post-boom markets, industry consolidation will create additional growth opportunities for the Company. We continue to focus on profitable market share growth, and our employees are central to our success in these efforts.

We got this e-mail today.

I work at Countrywide. Sometimes, what sells news is what gets printed in the news. Not too long ago, BofA was buying us.

 

 

03/21/2007 06:01 PM by Keith Smolik (Security Mortgage Coproration)


Keith - Very imformative post.  Appreciate the insight!

03/21/2007 10:20 PM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


You'll still see zero down loans. K. and C-wide is still doing them; just not for stated income.

You'll see some tightened guidelines for 2-4 years and then the craziness starts all over again.  It's cyclical. 

03/21/2007 10:24 PM by America's #1 Mortgage Broker


Brian - Definitely agreed that its cyclical.  I do think with better regulation and higher ethical standards/conduct by RE proessionals, we would see less of an impact from these cycles (I just blogged about this!)

03/26/2007 10:42 PM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


I think it's a good thing to limit the 100% loans.  I know that current wisdom says to leverage Real Estate to the hilt, but if something happens in terms of illness or employment you are up a creek.  It's one thing if there are lots of reserves, but some these loans that were done were just irresponsible on all parties parts.

06/30/2007 12:25 AM by Kate Bourland; Redding Mortgage, Loss Mitigation, Money Merge Accounts (Windsor Capital, Dyer Beech & U First Financial)


It's an overeaction, and I for one have a hard time believing that the government thinks more renters is a good idea.

I posted today with links to comments: The Federal Government Trying to Eliminate Down Payment Assistance?

06/30/2007 02:32 PM by Steve Dalton - Northwest Indiana (Green Pointe Development)


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