I am very frustrated this evening.  I submitted a purchase money loan needing a Jumbo Conforming Loan of 80% LTV and debt ratios of 24/36%.  Buyers are W-2 salaried, 20+ years on the same job, have $150K in the bank plus $250,000 in retirement assets, zero debt, 781 Middle FICO scores and have lived in their present residence for 20 years.  Mr. and Mrs. Stability and the type of client or borrower we all strive and hope to find and represent.  I had my lender 'Approved" appraiser who used  3 comparable closings all within 2 months and 1/4 to 3/4 miles away from the subject plus two supportive listings and it was appraised at the sales price.  (My instructions were the usual "Bring it in at a value you can support").   I received the "Conditional Approval" and an AVM was completed and the lender is indicating the value is 100K (20%) below the appraisal and we need to obtain another  appraisal from another "Lender Approved" Appraiser.  These clients did a lot of market research, looked at numerous homes and found what they wanted and made an informed offer.   If the lenders are going to look sideways and make this type of full documented transaction difficult or impossible then we are reallllllllllly going to struggle turning this market around.  I KNOW.....we must need to kill good transactions and provide more lower comparable sales to help the market recover.  That will help.

 
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JUL
01
2008
167,383 Points

There is a point where the buyer is as important as the property.  In this market, there may be a little more drop, but if informed buyers are willing to buy now and ride the curves, and they have the stability to do so, why not do the deal, Mr. Bank?  It also sounds like that appraiser is focused on being conservative, but $100K is very very very conservative..

8:36pm • #2
JUL
02
2008
147,548 Points 6 Featured Posts Outside Blog

My question is why do we bother to get an appraisal in the first place if the underwriter and some computer program is going to over-rule what the licensed professional (the appraiser) has put in their report, backed up by all of the factors that they consider in that report?

I recently had an underwriter kick one back at me because the AVM said that the value wasn't supported due to the fact that,"the Neighborhood didn't appear to support home sales in this price range". 

I pulled comps within a 1/2 mile radius and came up with 8 homes that had sold within the past 6 months that were more expensive than my subject.  When I sent these over to my appraiser, he told me that by using one of the new comps that he could redo his calculations and that the value of our subject property  would go UP!

He wrote a letter to this effect that satisfied the underwriter and we closed, but should they have been raked over the coals like this?  I don't think so!  I too look forward to the day that our industry gets past this dysfunctional stage that it's currently in!

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc.

11:38am • #3
JUL
05
2008

We get some things like this! As an appraiser, I just grin an bear it. I know this will not last forever.

I always try to provide five - six sales and found this helps quite a bit with underwriting. Three within three months and then two in the very immediate area, regardless of date of sale.

10:18am • #4
JUL
06
2008
148,811 Points 8 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Keith, I would be frustrated if I were you also.  Thiese are hard times!

6:52am • #5

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