IT'S COPYRIGHT TIME AGAIN. 
This post inspired by Robert Lockhard, Bloggers beware! Copyright battle might be coming.

Fair Use?  Or, an invitation to a Cease and Desist Notice and Demand for Damages?

From Title 17 of the U.S. Code:  Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered "fair," such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

  1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

  2. the nature of the copyrighted work;

  3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

  4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. More. . . .  

"Don't stake yourself out" is one of my favorite warnings to folks who are performing acts that make
them vulnerable to law suits, loss of negotiating position, loss of money, loss of almost anything.

This phrase has been in my lexicon since reading the wonderful book Centennial by James Michener.  This classic Michener chronicles Colorado for the past 135 million years from the era of the dinosaur to the time of publication about 1976.  Goodness, was it that long ago.  How time flies.  However, this book is timeless and an adventure in good reading and writing.  Michener is always a good read. 

One chapter in the book writes about the Native Americans in the Colorado area before it was settled by whites from the East.  The Plains area of Colorado were dominated by the huge Buffalo herds thundering along and trampling anything and everything in their way. 

As was their custom, when a member of the tribe became too old to hunt and "kill Buffalo", they would
go some miles away from the village and "stake themselves out" in the open field and wait for the thundering herd of Buffalo stampede.

DON'T STAKE YOURSELF OUT in the context of copyright infringement is fair warning to ActiveRain members who believe that the copyright doctrine of "Fair Use", permits a person to use a photo that the find on the Internet and use in an ActiveRain post to their blog and add a "credit" such as "photo owned by Joe Blow".

I'm no expert, but my reading of the Copyright Law leads me to believe that Fair Use permits the use only of short "snippets", perhaps 20-50 words quoted from  the content followed by a link to the original article.  Fair Use is the doctrine by which critics or news publications can print short snippets of a book, article, and not violate the copyright of the author. 

HOW DOES ONE PUBLISH A SNIPPET OF A PHOTOGRAPH??

ORPHAN WORKS.
  A better defense in the case of copyright violation litigation would be the Orphan Works doctrine.  A photo or article whose ownership or authorship cannot be found could be a defense.  However, the defendant would have to document a vigorous attempt to identify the owner of the copyright. 

ActiveRain has published guidelines warning members about the use of content, images and photos that
you did not write, create or shoot.  See:  "A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words? How About a Thousand Dollars?" Community Guidelines Re-Visited by Rich Jacobson, our venerable ActiveRain Community Builder.

ACTIVERAIN MEMBERS BEWARE:  Best to look for reasons to NOT use the works of others rather than look for excuses about how you CAN

ADDENDUM.  I just pulled a paragraph from the Complaint for Damages filed in U.S. District Court in MD last week. 

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68 Comments on HOW TO "STAKE YOURSELF OUT" AND WAIT FOR THE COPYRIGHT STAMPEDE

JUL
02
2008
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Again, sage advice. Easier to just use the "don't use if you don't create" rule.

7:56am • #1
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I read his post earlier today, and then saw the photo and your comment. Expected a post from you.

It was a good post, but then the photo. All in innocence, which I suspect most are ( except your maps )

Did you read Elizabeths Ramseys post from Huntsville, she  called Image Chef owner, because I was concerned she was advocating that site and I hadn't used it since TLW's post. The said Activerain could use their images, no worries. They are in the process of categorizing the free ones that others have created but for now it is fine.

I told her to document the conversation and she did.

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Gary.  Thanks.  That's good advice, but unfortunately, not what we usually read.

Missy.  I know folks are sick and tired of reading my copyright stuff.  If he hadn't used a copyright protected image in his post and advised that Fair Use may permit the use of photos, I'd have passed it by, but. . . . .

That Boy Scout image is fully copyright protected.  That article is featured.  That's one way bad advice is considered gospel.

One of these days, Image Chef is going to come after not only the members of ActiveRain for use of images created with their system, but possible ActiveRain too. 

8:11am • #3
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It's funny how many people think photos on the Internet are free.  I've had mine used by Chambers of Commerce, City of Ventura, US Dept. of Fish and Game, real estate agents, lawyers.  It's pretty amazing.  They all take them down or pay me when I ask but always protest they didn't know.  They got if from a Google image search and thought it was public domain. 

8:29am • #4
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I agree, photographs are also copyright protected unless the person using the photo has a signed "Release" in writing from the person in the photo and/or the originator of the photo. Free stock photos may also be subject to copyright protection, if used for commercial use. Everyone needs to be reminded of this every so often. Thanks.

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Joe.  Funny.  I've found my maps on sites owned by counties. One in MD and one in VA.  I collected $750 from one county and got a backlink from another. 

Everyone pays if I find my maps used. 

Michael.  This is a very misunderstood area of copyright law.  Or, is it????

8:53am • #6
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Lenn:

Best to look for reasons to NOT use the works of others

rather than look for excuses about how you CAN.

A excellent quote to remind us how to avoid potential copyright issues. Your article, once again, nicely summarizes the dangers we all face should we decide to use a photograph from the Internet. PEople just haven't learned about your maps, have they?

Jeff

9:33am • #7
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Jeff.  Thanks for stopping by. 

No, folks have not yet gotten the message.  I'm doing my best but it's a tough battle.

 

9:43am • #8
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You may not think you are an expert but here on AR we certainly look to you for your important information about copywrite laws.  I am experiencing problems more and more which I never expected.  It can happen to all of us.  Thanks for doing so much research on this for us!

11:21am • #9
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Diane.  Thanks. 

It's a gift. . .  and a curse.

11:46am • #10
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Isn't it funny how the concept of THEFT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY eludes so many?

 

 

12:35pm • #11

Lenn,  Thank you for another enlightening review of the law.  Pictures scare me to death.  I only use my own these days.

12:35pm • #12
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Lenn,

Good post! Good reminder! Maybe after the Dems federalize the oil companies, they'll make all copyrights the property of the state!!! :^) Thanks,   Fran

12:37pm • #13
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I keep saying....read disclaimers...and Lenn's posts. It may save a lawsuit.

 

12:39pm • #14
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Lenn, I found your copyright posts early in my AR life and read all 18 (at the time).  Since then, I've read so much fine print on stock photo sites that I think my eyes have crossed.  Even purchased photos have risk depending on where they come from and how they are used.  To mitigate, I've been spending a lot more time generating my own.  After reading this, I was reminded that all of the snippets are supposed to be linked.  So, I'm off to go verify.  Thanks for watching out for us.

12:56pm • #15
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There is so much misinformation on the Web about "fair use".  And I've read a lot of well-meaning advice about copyright by some on AR.  We're not supposed to practice law in a real estate transaction, so what makes some real estate people think they are qualified to give legal advice on copyright?

People have trouble with the concept of  "theft of intellectual property" for many reasons.  The idea of paying royalties to a writer, graphic designer or composer really irritates some folks.   

Some don't want to be troubled with the burden of checking to see if a photo, a video or a music clip is protected.  Others even confuse "fair use" with freedom of speech, concluding it's somehow their "right" to help themselves to whatever they see on the Web.

1:00pm • #16
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Hi Lenn,  Terrific review of the do's and don'ts for us Rainers.  Keep up the stellar research !

1:01pm • #17
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Thanks for another reminder as I get so sick of people just copying and pasting non-original material. Some people will never learn.

1:11pm • #18

Lenn - you are nothing short of amazing, thank you for your insight and perspective.

 

I have been using creative commons on all my work for several months.

As far a use of photos in my work one thing I have been doing is using the advanced search on flickr when looking for imagery to support my blog. There is a option on the bottom that filters your search to those with attribution licenses.

 

Thanks again,

Howard

 

 

1:15pm • #19
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Thanks for yet another informative article!  I believe people have asked you to write a book on this in the past and I will ask one more time :)

Prevailing attitudes that "attributes are OK" or "I am just taking one sentence and taking out a word" are preventing forward progression.

1:49pm • #20
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Lenn,

You're discouragingall the cut-n-paste-rs.

Requiring original thought may be a burden to some. But, I'll bet we'll all be better off for doing it. There is no better way to hone your skills and knowledge than to teach/blog.

We'll said and timeless.

Bill

1:56pm • #21
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Lenn, I think the total argument can be summed up in your last sentence:  better to look for reasons NOT to use others' material, than to look for why you can.

2:24pm • #22
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Lenn...

As a photographer who has published literally thousands of photos on the Internet, i can honestly say that the number one offenders of ownership rights are real estate agents!

 

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Lenn-  You would think by now, everyone would have gotten the message, but the truth is, the majority of offenders don't avail themselves of the information out there.  They merrily go on their way, using others writings and pictures, without a second thought.

I've been reading your copyright warnings, since RealTalk days.  The issues can sometimes be confusing.  I have a piece of clipart software, from 2001, that clearly states "for Home, Office and School Work.  When researched further, although nowhere on the software package, it stipulates that it may NOT be used for commercial purposes.

Thanks for your education, on the subject.  I'm now avoiding clipart, altogether, and relying solely on my own photos.

3:42pm • #24
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Lenn~ It looks like the copyright "Queen" Strikes again.  What would we do without you?  I Love the imagechef photos, but I am afraid to use them, even though hey are free to use with their logo attached... or are they really free? 

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Lenn, most of my posts are minus the 1000 word picture.  It is just easier for me at the moment not have to worry about being snagged.  I am glad you pointed out the "snippet" policy. aj 

3:57pm • #26
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I'm having fun creating my own photos & artwork, but I need to do a better job protecting my work - do you have a post on that subject, oh wise one? Thanks for another excellent post. Can I come to MD and shadow you for about five years? Cool!

4:19pm • #27
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Great advice, don't borrow anything.  Not in this day and age

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Ron.  Funny and true. 

Jimmy
.  I'm not reviewing the law.  I'm giving my opinions and experience.  Folks can read
the law themselves. 

Fran.  I don't get the connection, but thanks for dropping by.

Sally.  That's funny.  Thanks.


Erik.
  Mmmmm.  We've got to stop meeting like this.  Be careful out there.


Eric
.  I am NOT giving legal advice.  I may point to the law for folks to read themselves, but my posts are
from real life experiences. 

Bill.  I have to.  Even the copyright law is changing.  If the Draconian changes that are proposed
ever pass, folks will really be in trouble. 

Donna.  Thanks  Some learn.  Some don't.

Howard.  Thanks.  We have to do what we can to protect ourselves in these matters.

Renee.  No time for a book.  A compendium will have to do. 


Bill.
  Isn't it the truth.  That's why I suggest that folks look for reasons to NOT use others' photos.


Brian
.  Indeed.  I don't see much of that. 

Richard. I suspect that it's because agents have a need for content and images and they are not trained writers or photographers. 

Marilyn.
  You're right.  In fact, when caught with their grubby hands in the photo jar, they
become outrated when someone suggested that they did anything wrong.

Vickie.  IMO, ImageChef is setting folks up for a series of demand for damages campaign.
Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

AJ.  I agree.  If you don't own it, don't use it and that alone saves time.  I can usually come
up with an image to enhance an article, but I've invested thousands of hours developing
my image library.


Dawn.
  Just go the U.S. Copyright site and pull the registration form, fill it out and send it in with $45.  Takes about a year to get the Cert. back, but you're covered for statutory
damages from the date on the application.  Of course you are always covered, just not
for the automatic statutory damages.

5:16pm • #29
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You know... I was thinking that one could argue that a low res version of a picture on the internet is actually only using a portion of the image.  I would stress could argue.  I wouldn't want to base my financial future on it. 

And the Creative Commons Attribution for Commercial Use is a great thing.

5:30pm • #30
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I am just waiting for the day to tell peple they have violated my copy rights!

5:39pm • #31
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Lenn a good reminder to everyone to be careful and blog judiciously. 

6:02pm • #32
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I've taken to reading the fine print when I never did before. Excellent reminders for us all!

7:42pm • #33
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"Plantiff Harley"  .... Another map case!  Interesting!

In my humble opinion, most blogs don't need the silly stock images that are often used as illustrations. 

Someone writes about contracts, there is an image of a pen and paper.  Someone writes about negotiation, there is an image of shaking hands.  Someone writes about mortgage fraud, there is an image of handcuffs.

All those images add absolutely nothing to the content.  For Pete's sake, people, delete those friggin' useless images.  You are better off without them.

Like I said, just my humble opinion.

 

8:37pm • #34
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I have read every comment.  I like Cheryl's the best.  Why risk it for J-U-N-K?

You can get a good camera for less than $50, and put photos on Flickr, et al, for free.  Good photos.

Maybe Microsoft ought to have pop-ups on "Cut" and "Paste" that say, "Are you sure...?" and "Really, really Sure?"

Keep it coming, Lenn.

9:02pm • #35
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It would really help if the the search engines would use stronger language telling people that they can only look at the images but they can't use them. Of course, it would be even better if Google (et al) would eliminate their Images section. Maybe it won't happen unless someone wins a suit against them.

Here's a story that will make your skin crawl. I emailed a friend, who consistently uses photos from the media, some of the outside articles on bloggers being sued. His response was that "they would never bother with him because he doesn't have deep pockets". I think a lot of people ignorantly share his POV.

10:27pm • #36
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There is way too much fine print on many of the clip-art sites, so I've found it easier to just use Creative Commons photos from Flickr when I need an image that I can't provide myself. Even with those, we need to double check that the photographer has granted a license for us to use their image commercially.

10:36pm • #37
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I love the "stake yourself out" analogy.  How true it is.  Of course the guilty ones always blame it on "my webmaster." hahaha  We all know who that is!

kk

10:45pm • #38

Be sure to check out http://www.copyscape.com/ .  It will take your site and see if anyone has copied the contents to another site.  We've had a little bit of light copying of our site http://www.seattlepowersearch.com/ so you can put that one in to see what it finds.

11:17pm • #39
JUL
03
2008
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Lenn,

This is exactly why I stopped adding pictures into my blogs. 

Good Post

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Lane.  Indeed, "one could argue", "one could argue".   And, then they could write a check out to me.

Shannon.  Perhaps.  But, it's also diversionary and costly to prosecute.  I pay my attorney $355 an hour to enforce my copyrights.  True, the defendants pay in the end, but unless one has the resources and stubborn determination to finance the enforcement of your copyrights, the violators will win, as they often do. 

Joan.  Good advice.  The only protection needed is common sense, ethics and a respect for the law and others' property.

Colleen.  Good advise.  The fine print often provides detailed warnings that the images are not for commercial use.

5:43am • #41
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Cheryl Johnson wrote:

"Plantiff Harley"  .... Another map case!  Interesting!

In my humble opinion, most blogs don't need the silly stock images that are often used as illustrations.  

Someone writes about contracts, there is an image of a pen and paper.  Someone writes about negotiation, there is an image of shaking hands.  Someone writes about mortgage fraud, there is an image of handcuffs. 

Lenn wrote:  Many writers use images for color and emphasis in our writings.  Magazine and book illustrators have been an important part of publications.  In children's books, the illustratrations are often more interesting than the written content.  Perhaps that's where we got the love of pictures.  Many of us are visual in perception.  I don't believe that those of us who love photos and images should have to be the victims of thieves.  

All those images add absolutely nothing to the content.  For Pete's sake, people, delete those friggin' useless images.  You are better off without them.

Like I said, just my humble opinion.

Lenn wrote:  An astounding opinion from one who uses an image in their profile. 

5:52am • #42
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Mike J.  I disagree.  If that line of thinking were followed, our Internet sites and blogs would
not have visual interest.  Images add interest and fun. 

So, I should stop using map images in my web sites and blogs because someone would
steal them??  Nonsense.

If images and photos didn't add visual interest to an article, folks wouldn't go to the
trouble and "risk" to use the property of others. 

The only problem is that they are too lazy or unimaginative to create to shoot their own. 

The use of photos add a lot of interest to listing blogs, area interest blogs and property listings.

On the one hand, agents argue that listings with no photos aren't even shown to buyer. 
On the other hand, the same agents would argue that articles, web sites and blogs don't need
images or photos. 

The problem is not using photos and images in your posts.  The problem is stopping the
content thieves. 

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John.  The reason the fine print is too long is because it's written by attorneys.  But, the fine
print is there.  Even without the fine print, a person knows that they didn't shoot the photo,
create the image or write the content. 

Kristal.  The "stake yourself out" analogy serves me well often.  Can't blame it on the webmaster.
I've heard that one many times.  My question to agents and brokers who blame the webmaster is,
"Have you ever looked at your web site?"  "Did you ask where that image came from". 
That excuse never works.  Especially folks who are their own webmasters. 

Glenn.  Many abusers have been discovered through the use of Copyscape.
I don't have time to use that because I'd be tracking down content thieves
every day and the case for copyright infringement is not that easy for content.
OTOH, the case for images is very, very easy.

Gary.  That's sad.  Your freedom of speech is denied by content thieves. 

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Elaine.  Of course your friend is wrong.  They can be made to pay.  A judgment for damages
can be collected from wages and commissions.  It goes on the credit report of the defendant.
I don't believe that most share his POV.  I believe that folks just don't think that they'll get caught.

As for the Search Engines posting images, if an image has a tag, it will be indexed.  The Internet
"culture" if you will, is inclusive, not exclusive. 

It's the user who has the responsibility to know that, while you can enjoy and print for your own
use, you may NOT take, use in a commercial site or blog and benefit financially from the use of
the property of others. 

6:17am • #45
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Lenn,

That some cretins steal is certainly not a good reason to not post relevant, value-added, graphics like your maps. 

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Lenn,

You are certainly the authority on this.......thanks for all of your education. 

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Mike.  I agree.  I refuse to be forced to sink to bland posts for fear of someone stealing my property. 

Diane.  I'm not an authority.  I'm merely giving my experience. 

7:28am • #48
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Lenn

I think we shall have to agree to disagree.  :-)  I am all for lots of images of homes on the market, and lots of images of community landmarks.  If the blogger is talking about growing orchids, show me lots of images of orchids.

However, I thoroughly dislike the generic stock illustrations that are so predominant:  The shaking hands, the megaphone, the scales of justice, the pen, paper and glasses ... if you've seen them once, you've seen them all a hundred times .... to me there is a difference between using specific images and using generic ones.  That is just my humble opinion.

 

10:48am • #49
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Lenn, we discovered that it's a hell of a lot more work to eliminate copyrighted photos than it is to simply go the legal route- and that cease and desist scared the heck out of us, as well. NOT WORTH IT. NOT FOR A SECOND.

11:08am • #50

Wow.  As a Newbie, on AR and as a licensed sales agent, I really didn't know.  Glad to read your featured post.  And the comments sparked enough interest in me that I went to your site to check out the maps!!!

Thanks for a valuable post.

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Laurie.  I agree.  If only folks would come to that determination early on before "staking themselves out".

Margaret.  Thanks for dropping by.  Copyright is interesting but other stuff is a lot more fun.

 

12:22pm • #52
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Hi Lenn...

Once again...Thanks for helping us to always be aware that nothing is really FREE.

And just cuzz I can...I will say...And Lenn is always right when it comes to copyright :)

P.S. I guess I'm just a 'natural' when it comes to branding :)

TLW...ROAR!

4:49pm • #53

Great information...just what I was looking for.

thanks and good luck!

Mike Warren

5:12pm • #54
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2008
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Hi Lenn,

Your maps are great. Who does them and how are they done? And how can you search to find out if someone else is using them or another one of your images?

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TLW.  Thanks for stopping by.  I may not always be right about a lot of things, but if folks ignore the Copyright Law, they are just waiting for the "thundering herd".

Mike.  Welcome.

Debra.  Copyright content and images are trade secrets.  I don't search for violators.  I just run into them or Internet friends alert me. 

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Such valuable information. Thanks for the post.  I've always been careful but did not know about Image Chef. I will go back and read your other posts.

9:29am • #57
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Lenn, Great post.  Thanks for sharing this valuable information with us all. 

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Ricki.  Image Chef was never available for commercial use, but you have to read the fine prict to know it. 

Bob.  Quite welcomed.

 

3:27pm • #59
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2008
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Lenn,

Do you have an attorney on retainer for these copyright issues or are you handling it yourself? I came back to read your blogs after I found one of my photos being used as the header on another local real estate agent's website. I called him and got his webmasters name and called her and emailed her and she took it down within a couple of hours. But he also copy/pasted one of my agent's blogs word for word and it is still up. I am just sick of these agents blatantly doing this and my time to find and report these things and the buisness I lost because of it has to be worth something. I mean, I found both recent ones through a google search. They are using my content to get higher rankings than me when I was the original author. Sorry for the rant, just wondering if you had any advice on the process or collecting damages. Thanks!

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Susan.  I don't have my attorney on retainer.  I just pay his bill to me when it comes in every month.

The matter of damages may depend on whether or not the owner of the web site is a competitor. 

Of course, if your images, photos or copy is registered with the Copyright office, then you have statutory damages starting at $750 per use and up to $30,000.   If you can prove willful violation, you can get 3 times that. 

My first contact with the perp is through my attorney and it is a C&D and Demand for Damages.  If they only remove the image or content, you're not compensated for the time when they used your copyright protected property to compete with you.  That's why it makes a difference whether they are or are not a competitor. 

I've never found any of my content used by anyone else probably because I've never looked.  However, an image, like my maps, are easy to identify as mine.  Many of my maps are registered and that means statutory damages. 

I never go to the web master because the owner of the web site is the responsible person and they are the ones benefitting from the use of my property.  They often try to "blame" the web master, but my question then is "Have you ever looked at your web site?".

This is not only a violation of copyright.  It is also a violation of the COE that requires presenting a true picture in advertising.  Using stolen content is hardly using a true picture.  I don't pursue COE violations because it's not worth the time.  I prefer to proceed in the legal system and collect damages. 

 

 

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Lenn, Thank you for your reply here. And I definitely agree with going the legal route vs coe. Funny thing, the competing agent I found last night  using my stuff actually has a "Ethics" link on his website....HA HA.

10:36am • #62
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I'm reading all of your posts about this at the moment as I'm not only paranoid about where I get my pictures (they are now originals, but investigating what is legal to use from sources authorizing use)....thanks for informing us of how serious this is...I wonder if these people that take things just dont think they will get caught?

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Lenn,

WOW!  So you won?  That is encouraging to know it is possible to protect your works.

Ann Hayden in warm Wildwood, Missouri

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Ann...

Lenn always wins. She's Lenn :) 

TLW...ROAR!

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TLW.  I win these.  The copyright thief has no defense.  The damages are statutory on most claims.

Ann.  It's not only possible, it's essential.

 

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Lenn,

Thank you for the post. It is very interesting.

Ann Hayden in windy Wiildwood, Missouri

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Ann.  My pleasure.  It's a recurring theme.

 

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