This is a reprint of an article that I wrote for my other blog Marc's Corner.  Generally, I don't write about politics on ActiveRain and in fact try to steer clear of it when it comes to my business.  But real estate and politics do mix a great deal.  I thought that I'd give you a glimpse of what I write about on my other blogs.  I will probably follow this up with another article that I've written as well.

I was asked by the staff at Zolve, after they read a couple of my blog posts, if I would contribute to this site. I must admit that I was thrilled at the opportunity and humbled at the same time.

As you can deduce from their site title, RealEstatePolitics.com, we will be talking about real estate and politics and how they intertwine in our present state of affairs. I won’t deny that I am opinionated, but at the same time I am willing to see other viewpoints and give credit where it is due. With that said – Welcome to Marc’s Corner!

I was formulating what to write in my head and wanted to speak about the Mortgage Aid/Foreclosure Rescue Plan that made its way through the House and is now stalled in the Senate. But while thinking on all the aspects that are involved, it just appeared to be too convoluted to tackle correctly in one post.

Before we go any further, I need to make a couple of statements. First, I think it is a horrible thing for someone to have their home foreclosed upon. I have a major issue seeing someone who has worked hard and has been doing what they were told to do, to wind up losing their home and almost everything else with it. I am not a bleeding heart nor am I a sadistic bastard. Well I’m sure I know some people that may say differently.

But one of the main questions that has to come to mind – Is the government the answer to our present situation? I have an issue with that on many levels. You have to remember, when you think the government is the answer, than you are therefore saying ‘we’ are the answer. Because the long and short of it, is that it’s us who will ultimately foot the bill.

Here’s an example, we have a slight issue with that in the State of Florida with property insurance. Amongst all of the insurers, there is a company called Citizens, which is the state’s insurance co. Unfortunately, this company was grossly under funded to handle the catastrophes that have occurred in this state. Because of that, every insurance policy in this state pays surcharges to cover those loses. But that’s a story for another day.

There are several other questions that need to be asked in regard to the measures being proposed by Congress. Who is really getting bailed out? Is it the people that will be saved from foreclosure or is it really the lending institutions? This needs to be taken a step further as to who are some of the major proponents of this bill beholden to. We’ll look at some of these players and their campaign contributors. I think some of the things that we will unearth will surprise you.

Just a little history before we wind up for today. Lending institutions make their loans based on risk. The rate the consumer pays is based on their risk factor. You hear now about lending criteria being tightened. Well really all we are seeing is it going back to the way that it was before these lending institutions decided to ease their lending restrictions.

You may ask why did they do this? Well there were several reasons. There are two main ones that I see. Firstly, they needed to tap into a market to procure more loans and this they did by easing restrictions and making it almost as simple as signing your name to get a loan. Almost anyone could get a stated income no documentation loan. Secondly, they were playing the risk game themselves. They saw, as did so many, that real estate was appreciating at double digit rates in many areas.

I remember when we hit the height in 2005, we would see properties that were appraising for values never seen before. It was unbelievable. Now, it’s really amazing to me because these lending institutions have economists. They had to know that this market was not sustainable. Goodness gracious who in their right mind could have thought otherwise.

So this begs the question, why should these companies be saved from themselves? And on top of that, why should we, the working people, be the ones to use our hard earned money to save them?

Just a thought!

Anyway, again Welcome to Marc’s Corner and I’ll see you soon!

Marc It Sold!

 

14 Comments on Welcome to Marc’s Corner -

JUL
04
2008
599,156 Points 63 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Marc, I suppose the government bailing out mortgage holders or not can be argued both ways. I haven't thought about it too much to have an opinion, but it does seem the more the government comes to the rescue in each situation we move more into socialism as an economic system rather than capitalism. Capitalism has a lot of risks and people get hurt when things go awry, but the competitive nature of it is usually better than socialism. I'll be interested in others opinions in why they think this bill should be passed or not.

11:57am • #1
617,638 Points 264 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Marc, I'm so torn on this issue. There are many folks that should NOT be bailed out in anyway. And there are many folks that could certainly use some kind of assistance. But, like you, I am very leery of big gov getting involved. I think I lean more towards solutions for the future and letting the current market just play out. No matter how difficult things are now the market will correct itself given time and we will all come out stronger on the other side.

Very good post Marc. Well done!!!

12:24pm • #2
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Hi, Marc:  I like "Marc's Corner" and you've raised some very interesting points.  I agree with your ideas about letting the government "fix" this situation ... of course the mortgage industry knew the risk.  And we all knew the FL market values were insane.  Even in NW FL, we could not believe the appraised values we were seeing.

I'm glad you included a link to your outside blog.  I'd like to drop in to read more.  Hope you are having a great 4th weekend!  Be safe and have  a good time.

1:40pm • #3
244,815 Points 15 Featured Posts Outside Blog

I'm sure that someone will come along to disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure that the bail out will not actually help individuals, only the big companies that are bleeding and being forced into the real estate biz.  I personally don't want my tax dollars being used to stem their blood - the massive profits they were making should be used to cover their losses.  Just like I have to work within my budget, they should be forced to do the same.  I don't see the Senate lining up a bill to bail out agents that are failing due to the change in the market.  Just my completely uninformed .02.

p.s.  The link to Marc's Corner is not working for me.

4:59pm • #4
JUL
05
2008
170,962 Points 6 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Gary - I agree and can see both sides of the argument.  The one main issue that I have is homeowners being foreclosed upon.  I know ignorance is not an excuse, but there is more to it than just that.  Now, when I say homeowners, I'm not talking about investors, speculators or whatever you may have.  They know the risk and that's what they took.  I also have to agree with you in regard to your comments on socialism and capitalism.  Very good point.

BB - Firstly, thank you very much!  That means a lot coming from you.  I agree with you and feel quite the same in regard to many that got caught in this situation.  But like you stated so very well, I lean more towards solutions for the future and letting the current market just play out.  There is a lot to be said for that.

Jan - Thank you and hope you had a great 4th as well.  Yes, isn't interesting.  We all saw this occurring and yet, now so many are looking around at each other with questioning looks.  Seriously!  I just amazes me! 

Lisa - Duh!  Thank you for mentioning that to me.  I had an extra 'w' in the addy.  Of course, I expect many to disagree and that is fine, just as long as they are respectful of my position.  Actually, your .02 appear to be quite informed.  And I have to agree with your comments.  It's basically the same as my thoughts.

9:35am • #5
JUL
06
2008
410,199 Points 72 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Whoa Marc...

I must say you've really got me thinking on this one. Can't say that I'm enjoying that much. It's a holiday weekend ya know :)

I'm just messing with you. I am of the opinion that some of the Companies need to just belly up and go buh bye. As the market played out from 2005 forward I knew what we're seeing now would be the end result. Who didn't? I mean please...If you have a Buyer only putting a penny down...What does that really tell us? :)

In our market we have a huge foreclosure sale going on. It seems it's difficult to go with a short sale when you LIE on your no stated/no doc loan to begin with. Can we say FRAUD? :)

Marc It ... Cornered :)

P.S. I took some much needed time away from AR so naturally I enjoyed our little game of Marc It. I didn't realized I missed the challenge to come up with something until just now :)

TLW...ROAR!

5:37pm • #6
410,199 Points 72 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Oh...

I like that "Crap Pure Effin Crap" :)

Are you trying to give me a run for my money in your tags? :)

TLW...ROAR!

5:39pm • #7
170,962 Points 6 Featured Posts Outside Blog

TLW - Exactly!  Who can honestly say that they didn't see this coming?  And seriously, if they can, then I think that they need to rethink their vocation, because they are surely doing their client's a disservice.  I know that's a strong statement and it will probably tick a lot of people off, but... 

Yes, your market has really been hit worse than some of the surrounding areas.  I have to admit that I'm very lucky where I'm at.  The sad thing is that the 'clean-up' from all of this will last a long time.  I'm seeing in-roads, and that's a good thing, but it will be slow going.  But, ultimately, we will get there. 

You're right about a lot of these co. having to go bye-bye.  It's business, they took more of a risk than they should have - good bye.  NEXT!!  Who is the gov't to come in and bail them out?

On the other notes, I've enjoyed to see what you would come up with and most times they have brought a smile to my face.  I also took time off from AR recently, because I really had to direct my attention to getting quite a few things done including my new blog. 

Now, in regard to that tag, you can see that I've only used it twice and the plain 'crap' one twice as well.  I would in no way usurp your territory.  In fact if you like it - it's yours with my pleasure.  I know that you'll use it well!!

As always, thanks for stopping & hope you had a great holiday!!

6:13pm • #8
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Marc~Great to see you with this type of post on A|R...I agree, as a responsible mortgage-paying citizen, I am pretty frustrated that my property is losing value daily due to the foreclosures and short-sales of those around me who barely had to breathe to get a loan...but, honestly, I just don't know what the solution is. You are so correct that supply and demand are the only true factors here and I'm not sure what the government can do about that...Geez, between health care and the housing/mortgage crisis, there is much to be done! Thanks for showing us your more "personal" and "political" side! Hope you had a great holiday weekend!

6:50pm • #9
410,199 Points 72 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Marc...

At the risk (and I really don't care) of ticking people off...This is as good a place as any to get some of this off my chest. To be honest...Back when the Builders in our area were offering dollar down and penny down "in-house" loans it really pissed me off. I'd find myself wanting to march right up and ask them if they really thought that was prudent. The Consumers Buying those homes were getting screwed. Then it would hit me. The almighty dollar bill was obviously more important to them than Fraud (Phoney Appraisals) charges. Just look at this flippin' mess (pun intended) !! I know we will carry on and do what we've always done but there's a silly part of me that realizes that if 'The Man' steps in and bails these companies out they'll turn right around and do it again and again and again. Maybe I've just been in this business too long. I'm starting to sound cynical :)

P.S. Messing with you about the tags. I enjoyed seeing someone else actually using that word in a tag :) Good to have me back and good to have you back :)

TLW...ROAR!

6:58pm • #10
JUL
07
2008
204,371 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Marc,

I am totally against the government getting their noses into everything.  Once the government takes control of every aspect of everyone's life, it is no longer democracy.  Sure, the lenders were "giving" mortgages away, so why should we bail them out?  Don't get me wrong.  I do feel for the homeowner who is about to lose their home, but they should have been realistic and thought about whether or not the home was really affordable, even down the line. 

When these homes were selling for mega bucks during the boom, realistically, I saw, that at some point down the line, the consumer would not be able to afford these homes and it would go downhill from there.  (What can I say?  I tend to be a realist.)  People need to think for themselves and start planning ahead and being realistic.

Great post!

7:14am • #11
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LaShawn - I honestly don't know if there is a solution either other than letting the markets correct themselves.  Gov't oversight is fine, but don't feel that it is their place to step in nor should they be helping big business as opposed to the individual homeowner.  The only solution that I saw that appeared to be equitable was that proposed by John Vogel, Jr. of Dartmouth which I referred to in the next post. 

I'm glad you enjoyed and thanks for stopping by.  Hope you had an excellent holiday weekend as well. 

TLW - I was also playing in regard to the tags, but it didn't come across in my writing.  I totally agree with you in all that you've written.  I've also expressed the same sentiment in the past - if 'The Man' steps in and bails these companies out they'll turn right around and do it again.  How can you expect someone to learn a lesson if you're just going to bail them out.  The only lesson to learned there is that they'll be expecting to be bailed out again.  Hey, look at Citizen's Ins. in FL - prime example.  OK, so they're a quasi-gov't ins co, but that shouldn't matter.

Brigita - Thank you very much and I totally agree with you.  The only aspect that I think we overlook a little. even though you are correct, is that too many of these homeowners did not understand what they were getting into.  The lenders and some sales people were acting like slick salesman.  They sold a bunch of goods, but just didn't go the extra step to possibly tell the whole truth and explain the full consequences of such a loan.  People were buying more than they could afford.  They were being told that they should, etc.

 

7:36am • #12
JUL
09
2008
256,043 Points 1 Featured Post Outside Blog

I think you are right on the mark.  Although it isn't pretty to see people losing their homes, people don't have a constiutional right to own a home.  When homeownership started going over 70% of all families, I knew we were in trouble.  Some of my tenants who could barely afford to pay me rent were getting loans to buy houses.  Taxpayers should not bear the burden for other people's mistakes especially irresponsible buyers and over-anxious lenders.  This economy will eventually correct itself.

7:47pm • #13
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Rob - Ain't that the truth.  And the funny thing is that you then probably had trouble finding renters.  I know, I went through that myself.

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