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The Lost Art of Listening

By
Real Estate Agent with Westcott Group Real Estate Company

It seems like there is always someone trying to sell us something in today's society.  This has caused many of us to put up our defenses whenever we feel that we are about to receive a sales pitch.  However, there are times in life when we either seek out a sales professional, or at the very least, are open to listening to a sales offer.  During these times, it behooves the salesperson to listen to what the potential client / customer has to say. 

 

Listening does NOT mean allowing the words to bounce off of you while you are preparing what you are going to say next.  In the world of sales, listening is about learning.  Good listeners will gather information and then use what they have learned to meet the needs of the client / customer. If you are a salesperson, and you are going to ask questions, listen to the answers to your questions.  Do NOT get locked into a scripted sales pitch, regardless of what the potential client / customer is telling you.  It is a disservice to the person that you are speaking to, as it puts your need to speak ahead of their need to be heard.

 

My family and I recently took a driving trip to Pennsylvania, where were guests at a resort.  One of the conditions of our stay was that my wife and I needed to attend a timeshare sales presentation (90 - 120 minutes in duration).  Both parties must attend to qualify for the complimentary room, so we brought our kids with us.  Throughout the sales presentation, my son kept himself busy coloring, and chiming in with his thoughts every once in a while.  My little one, on the other hand, has a limited attention span, which makes things more difficult for the salesperson.

 

After sitting down with the salesperson, he started asking us questions that would help him to guide his presentation.  Within a matter of minutes, I realized that he had been trained to ask certain questions and to overcome certain objections.  This was not readily apparent to my wife, but it was to me because I do the same thing for a living.  The problems arose when my wife and I started giving answers that he was clearly not trained to answer.

 

As a salesperson, there is nothing more frustrating than having someone waste your time.  Out of professional courtesy, I let the salesperson know early on that we were familiar with the program, thought highly of it, but we were not going to be buying on that day, which accomplished a few things. 

 

First of all, the salesperson knew that we were familiar with how the system worked, (having already owned a timeshare once and also from sitting through this presentation at another location), so he was able to skip the step of explaining it to us.  Second of all, the salesperson knew that this was not likely to result in a sale.  While I'm sure that there are certain steps that must be taken in each presentation, I was giving him the opportunity to spend less time with us so that he could move on to the next person that may have had more interest in making a purchase.  The ball was in his court (so to speak), and he proceeded to ask us some questions.

 

 

"On a scale of 1-10, how important is it to you to take a vacation every year?"

 

My wife and I both responded with a 2, which is a bit ironic, because one of the reasons that we chose this number is because we have a daughter that has started her "terrible twos," and traveling with her is challenging (to say the least).

 

Now, if you're trying to sell me on the benefit of owning a timeshare so that I can travel every year, and we've just told you that it is low on our priority list, do you think that you can convince us that we should travel more?  Not likely, but he still has to do his job.

 

 

 

 

"On a scale of 1-10, how important is it to you to travel overseas?"

 

Our answer was a 1.  Neither one of us has any burning desire to travel the globe.  While there may be a few destinations that we would travel to someday in the distant future, our vacations are more likely to be on American soil for a long time to come. 

 

He then proceeded to take us to a really cool interactive computer program.  Each resort that the company owns is marked with a red dot, and when you touch the dot, it brings you to a video of that particular resort.  We knew that we weren't buying, but we took a look at the resorts that we could choose from should we ever decide to buy.

 

Remember, we were just asked how important it is to travel overseas.  The first tour was of Orlando, Florida.  This makes sense.  We have two small children, and the property is located about 2 minutes from the Disney parks.  He followed Florida with Australia, and then Fiji. 

 

Didn't we just say that we are not interested in traveling overseas?  Why would he show us Australia (about a 24 hour flight), and Fiji (many hours, ending with a flight on a "puddle jumper").  This was not going to play on our emotions because we have no interest in visiting these places.  Did he even listen to the answer to his own questions?

 

 

"Is there anything that we can do to make you timeshare owners today?"

 

We told him that there wasn't.  It's not something that fits our needs right now, and we see no reason to take on an extra monthly expense. 

 

 

"How much could you afford to pay? 

I'll check with my manager and see what programs we have available?"

 

My wife relents, and says $5 per month, knowing full well that we are not vacationing for that amount of money.  If they said yes to that amount, we would have found some short driving trips to take every once in a while.

 

The manager comes out, and asks us once again how much we would be willing to spend.  We repeat our answer.  She most likely has been at this long enough to know that they weren't going to budge, and moved us on to our "exit interview" with public relations (which will be an upcoming post of its own).

 

The bottom line is that we provided honest answers to every question that we were asked.  Each answer was an indication that we were in no way motivated to purchase a timeshare at that moment, and that travel was a low priority on our list of things to do.  Instead of hammering away at us with a pre-scripted sales presentation, it would have made more sense to listen to what we had to say and realize that there were better prospects out there.

 

As REALTORS®, many of us are so afraid to walk away from any potential business that we end up working with / for people that are not ready, willing and able to proceed with a transaction.  We may not use the high pressure sales tactics that were used at the timeshare presentation, but many of us convince ourselves that we can somehow motivate the unmotivated into making a purchasing decision.  I hope that this story shines some light onto why this is an ineffective approach to selling. 

 

Kelly Sibilsky
Licensed Through Referral Connection, LTD. - Lake Zurich, IL

We went to one in Maui (we got a great deal on the room!) and I lost 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back. There's got to be a better way for them to sell timeshares! Needless to say, we told them up front that we would not be buying, but they tortured us for the remaining 89 minutes anyway.

Jul 07, 2008 12:53 PM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

Who?

Jul 07, 2008 12:55 PM
Jason Crouch
Austin Texas Homes, LLC - Austin, TX
Broker - Austin Texas Real Estate (512-796-7653)

Adam - I have endured a couple of these presentations.  Once, we took our (then) two small children on purpose so that they would get impatient and send us away with our $250 gift certificate for Dillard's.  Nice Christmas money for a couple of hours of our time!

Jul 07, 2008 02:22 PM
Lisa Ryan
Callaway Henderson Sotheby's International Realty - Montgomery, NJ
Selling Princeton,West Windsor and Montgomery Town

All I can say Adam is thank goodness you didn't get my sister-in-law Elizabeth, who sells timeshares in Myrtle Beach.  Yoiu wouldn't know what hit you!!

Jul 07, 2008 03:34 PM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Adam, you were doing a deja vu on my life many years ago when I went to a timeshare presentation in East Texas. I was polite and courteous but like you picking 1 or 2 on the scale of interest they should have just moved on. I had friends all over the country I could stay with for free. Kind of hard to compete with free. Salesmen hate me as a customer because I am so weird. But thinking of us in real estate, the client had to be qualified and need the product, or move on.

Jul 07, 2008 05:06 PM
Pam Pugmire
Silvercreek Realty Group - Meridian, ID
Meridian Idaho Real Estate

Adam, Could you speak up?  I can't hear a word you're saying!  ; ) 

My husband spent eight years in the cellular industry, and he has taught me a lot about sales.  When I first got in the industry, I would ask a couple questions, and then go about showing people all 500 listings in our area that matched what they told me.  Jeff (hubby) told me that I needed to ask more questions to narrow down the search.  He said that if he showed people more than 3 cell phones, they would be overwhelmed, and go away and never come back. 

Jul 07, 2008 05:29 PM
Diane Aurit
LKN Realty, LLC - Mooresville, NC
Lake Norman Real Estate

Adam, great points.  I went to several of those time-share sales meetings when they first started doing them years ago...I had the same frustrating experience! 

Jul 08, 2008 01:30 AM
R. B. "Bob" Mitchell - Loan Officer Raleigh/Durham
Bank of England (NMLS#418481) - Raleigh, NC
Bob Mitchell (NMLS#1046286)

Hmmm Adam, while I agree with your premise that a good sales person knows how to listen, I don't know that I agree with your premise of the salesman not attempting to "sell" you during the time that they had you there.

The fact that you were sitting there was indicative that you met their minimum qualifications to be a potential sale.  After that, the salesman's next challenge was to over-come your "natural sales resistance".  He apparently tried to do this, but apparently without success.

If you're "natural sales resistance" couldn't be over-come or there was indeed a reason that you wouldn't be buying from him that day, I would have trained my salesperson to ask you about friends and family who might be interested in enjoying a visit and also to stay in touch with you in a non-intrusive way.

That way, he could have turned a negative into a positive by feeding his pipeline of potential clients and keeping his figure on your pulse to where maybe in a couple of years when your youngest was a bit older, you might consider buying from him at that time!

Just my thoughts on your post!

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc.

Jul 08, 2008 04:53 AM
Bob Cumiskey
A1 Connection Realty, Inc. - Sun City Center, FL
US Army Retired, Your Sun City Center, Florida ~ Realtor

Adam, Good luck to you and your wife.  The terrible two's is just the start of it...next comes the Tiresome Three's, then the Fiersome Fours.  Yikes.  Not to worry though, Grandparenting ( I know it's a long way off) makes up for it all.  Have a great day.

Jul 08, 2008 10:43 AM
Renae Bolton
Marketing 4 Realtors - Garfield Heights, OH
I'm your Professional Real Estate Marketing VA!

Yeah, Bob.  My parents said that "grandparent" means you get to laugh at your children when they go through what they put you through!  Sounds like a lot of fun.  We have kids ages 12, 10, 3, 1.5, and 3 month old twins.  What they put us through...

~Renae

Jul 08, 2008 10:59 AM
Nathan Cook
BCR (Brazosland Classic Realty) - College Station, TX

Yes, Adam, folks have to need to or REALLY want to buy in order to be ready to buy.  That salesman could have saved himself some time.  Reminds me of what a friend said last night...her husband takes the solicitation calls and spends about 45 minutes finding out about the product, but then does not buy.  He tells his wife that maybe he saved someone else from buying what they don't want.

Jul 09, 2008 10:07 AM
John Guiney
Keller Williams Realty - Quincy, MA
e-PRO, CBR

I'm sorry, did you say something? lol

Jul 10, 2008 01:57 AM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I have received many offers for gifts etc for attending a presentation but have not yet attended any resorts for fear of being pressured into buying a time share.

Jul 10, 2008 01:04 PM
Brian Schulman
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage, Lancaster PA - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster County PA RealEstate Expert 717-951-5552

Adam, it's remarkable how many sales people have absolutely no concept of how to sell anything.  Your story reminded me of a timeshare experience I once had in Florida, where the sales rep literally tried to bar me from leaving the room until he was finished with his canned presentation!

Jul 11, 2008 03:05 AM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island

TO ALL:  When I put this post out, I was actually out of town.  I'm sorry that I didn't get back to it sooner.  I guess it's a bit ironic that this post was about listening and it looks like it went ignored.  I assure you that it didn't.  I've read all of your comments, and it seems that many of you have had a similar experience to the one that I had. 

Of course, there is always room for differing opinions, my friend Bob Mitchell seems to feel a bit differently than I do about how the sales presentation was handled. 

Bob, yes we did meet the minimum requirement, but that doesn't mean that there was a good chance that our minds would be changed.  The salesman should have realized this once we started answering his questions.  And that is the point of the post.

I understand that some "no's" lead to a "yes," but not all of the time.  If I say that I don't have any desire to travel overseas (which I did), do you think that somehow I was going to be convinced to travel the world because of a few photos and videos?  Not likely.

You have trained your salespeople to be effective.  Part of that is realizing when someone is not a good prospect, and doing what you can to try and see if they know someone that is.  This salesperson just kept hammering me over the head with the presentation, which would have been fine had he not asked us our motivation and our desires.

I actually did give him a few names, but that is because I thought that these people would like to see the presentation.  You'll see in the other parts to this story just how absurd their techniques are.  Thanks for commenting, Bob.

 

Thanks again to everyone for their comments (even you wiseguys that gave the one word responses).

 

Jul 11, 2008 09:17 AM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Adam:  I LOVE your answers!  In all seriousness, your title is dead-on--many DON'T listen anymore (if they ever did!) and that, my friend, is one of the biggest differences in success and failure.  Excellent post (should be featured!)

Debe in Charlotte 

Jul 12, 2008 04:28 PM
LS Rogers Realty
LS Rogers Realty - Richardson, TX

That reminds me of my first couple of months of entering real estate. I was pre-license training with a broker that had the Tony Robbins Rah-Rah-Rah approach. I was so excited about being present on showing with a buyer. The broker led the tour and had the buyer excited about the home. We got to the office and the broker filled in all the blanks on a contract and just expected the buyer to initial and sign and write checks. Well, the buyer wanted to sleep on it and submit the paperwork the following day. Unacceptable to the broker. 

As the buyer walked out of the office without executing the contract, I knew this would be the last time I'd seen him in that office. Little did I know it would be mine too. It was a grueling hour of high pressure sale tactics with the buyer clearly showing discomfort. Would the buyer have returned the next morning with the contract? Maybe. I feel the broker's chances were greater before his sales pitch. But that's just my opinion. Afterall, he remains successful; Yet all I can think of is his long line of clients eating the best recipe of "buyer's remorse" I've ever seen.

As I walked away feeling like a used car salesman (no offense, just referencing) I started to wonder if I was making the right decision in pursuing real estate. Thankfully, that was answered for me the next day in real estate class where brokers came in to recuit new agents. I found a good fit for me.  As a salesperson, isn't it more beneficial to serve the client's needs opposed to bullying them? YES! Again, my opinion.

Jul 12, 2008 04:52 PM
Bo Hussung
Bell Title /Triserv LLC - Nashvle, TN

Adam, listening is a true talent that needs constant and vigilant attention. It will not get better without practica and doing it well is really hard. I struggle with it all the time....thanks for the read, it was a good study of what not to do when in a selling situation or a life situation, for that matter

We have one mouth and two ears, we should use them in that proportion

Thanks

Bo

Jul 13, 2008 03:30 AM
The Somers Team
The Somers Team at KW Philadelphia - Philadelphia, PA
Delivering Real Estate Happiness

Listening is definitely an art... and typically the one listening is the one asking questions.  The combination of both provides the opportunity to learn and to relate... and then to find and offer the solution to the prospect/client.  The agents that do this consistently I think are the top producers.

Great post because it is a good reminder.  Sometimes when one feels they know it all, they listen less and talk more.... not good : )

Jul 13, 2008 03:50 AM
Betina Foreman
WJK Realty - Austin, TX
Realtor, C.N.E., with WJK REALTY

The only way to listen, is to close your mouth.

Thanks for the great info!

Betina

Jul 14, 2008 05:00 AM