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You've heard about my loyal realtor that shares her opinion and likes red.  Here's Chapter Two.

She told me she did not like the cenetrpiece I had done in the dining room at her latest listing and that she wanted me to bring the outdoors in.  She did not want my (imported from Spain) table runner and red Italian bowl.   At the time, I had brought other options but she shook her head "no".  Now this is the lady that wants red, but she nixed it!  She wanted a vase and some greenery.  So, early 4th of July morning, I dropped off another centerpiece on the homeowner's front porch, on my way out of town.

Today, I get an fyi message from my loyal red realtor.  She removed a centerpiece from another listing of hers that I staged, and took it to this newest listing.  I'm still trying to catch my breath on this one!  She moved a very expensive Italian piece of pottery, on her own, without my permission, to another home!  She said she was looking for a WOW factor. 

As Larry, Curly or Moe used to say as they shook their closed fist, "why I oughtta"! 

Don't know how you feel, although I can only guess, but, now it's time for boundaries, with no explanation. Just boundaries.  I will inform her politely and will put it in my contract...any additional requests after staging is complete, will be invoiced at my hourly rate to the homeowner or the realtor and my inventory shall not be moved either within the home or FROM THE HOME!

 

   

 
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24 Comments on My Loyal Realtor...Went TOO FAR!!!!

sounds nervy to me. Sounds like you need to set some strict guidelines for your clients. It also sounds kind of risky to me to be using very expensive items as part of your staging. I hope you have lots of insurance.

07/08/2008 12:34 PM by Ray Henderson (Weichert Realtors' Northeast Group)


people continue to amaze me....but it really makes you think about what you HAVE to write into your contracts. For instance..on a bottle of Sunlight Dish Liquid it says it has real lemon juice in it. Then, there's this big statement that says not to drink the dish soap. ( yep, someone did that! )

07/08/2008 12:39 PM by Kimberly Wilson (Power Realty Partners)


I would be as tactful as possible.  As you said before she has been very loyal to you and brings a lot of business.  In those cases I would cut some slack, but be sure there is a clear understanding of the boundaries that are important to you.

07/08/2008 12:44 PM by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTORĀ® (Century 21 Liberty Homes)


It's probably best to very carefully set your boundaries.  I'm sure she didn't realize what an expensive piece it was, and didn't think about the fact that she was stepping on toes.

07/08/2008 12:50 PM by Meridian Idaho Real Estate ~ Pam Pugmire (Bridgetower Real Estate)


Tough Call, I agree with Randy's response count to ten before you fire off a missile that could sink an otherwise sea worthy ship. Steve

07/08/2008 12:50 PM by Steve Loynd, Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., Loon Mt, NH.


Okay, so I commented on your other blog about her and I was giving her the benefit of the doubt. Now I am fully on your side! Set some ground rules with her. Bill her for your actual hours and let her pay for any changes she wants. Is she insured to move your belongsing from house to house? What if she broke it? Who would pay? While she has given you great business in the past, perhaps it's time to reevaluate the relationship.

07/08/2008 01:57 PM by Jessica Klein


Ray, thanks for the input.  Yes, guidelines are in order and I probably should have said "one of a kind" items.  When I am staging $1.6million+ homes, tasteful and sometimes expensive items are somewhat of a necessity.

 

Kimberly, LOL!  Thanks for the funny!  I am constantly revising my contract for these crazy things. 

Randy, thanks for grounding me back to earth.  Ok, I'll be nice.  Seriously, she means no harm and probably thought she was saving me a trip by moving the item herself.  I'll be nice, but firm.  How's that?

Meridian, Ok, you're right.  I'm over it, sorta.  It doesn't help anything to grind an ax, I know.  My better self hears you!  Thanks!

07/08/2008 02:31 PM by Nancy Cleary (Domus)


Kill her with kindness.  There is no need to offend a good loyal client.  I cut slack for loyalty.

07/08/2008 02:37 PM by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTORĀ® (Century 21 Liberty Homes)


Steve, I counted to 10, then 20, then...I was nice.  Always good advice to calm down before you respond, otherwise, cutting off my nose, right?

Jessica, all my concerns, too.  What if she had broken it?  That piece was one of a kind.  I think I've made my boundaries clear about my time and inventory.  IF it happens again, then I will evaluate whether her business is worth it to me.  Thanks for your input.  I really appreciate a realtor's perspective and especially a staging realtor!

07/08/2008 02:39 PM by Nancy Cleary (Domus)


I do not think it is right for her to move YOUR INVENTORY from one house to another. If she was looking for a centerpeice similar to that one she should have told you, I am sure you could have wipped something up.

07/08/2008 03:01 PM by Barbara Cluck-Miksits - New Jersey Home Staging (BCM Home Staging LLC)


Barbara, thanks for the opinion.  I guess since our inventory is our livelihood, we stagers, seem to be protective of the things that make us $$.  I agree, it is mine afterall.  Had she asked permission, I would have said, "no", I will move it for you.  I don't want it to break.  She said she wanted the outdoors in so I brought this vase.... 

 But this is the vase she took instead of....

07/08/2008 06:51 PM by Nancy Cleary (Domus)


Barbara, thanks for the opinion.  I guess since our inventory is our livelihood, we stagers, seem to be protective of the things that make us $$.  I agree, it is mine afterall.  Had she asked permission, I would have said, "no", I will move it for you.  I don't want it to break.  She said she wanted the outdoors in so I brought this vase.... 

 But this is the vase she took instead of....

07/08/2008 06:51 PM by Nancy Cleary (Domus)


Nancy, I don't have any clients like this...I had one in the beginning, we didn't last long together. My contract is very full of all sorts of little items that will not let this happen. I don't have the time or the patience. You are a complete saint.  I simply remind them that their job is to sell the house and my job is to prepare the best product possible. If she had spent her time selling instead of micro managing you the house might already be sold.

07/08/2008 08:23 PM by Kym Hough, Real Estate Stager, Green Trainer in Real Estate, CSP, RESA, LGLS (www.Staged to Sell & www.StagersLIST.com)


Nancy- Unless I read your other post wrong, she is not your client, correct? The homeowners pay you, after she brings you in for staging. She has really crossed the line here, to remove something of yours, that someone else paid for, from the home that you placed it in. AHHHHH! You need to sit her down, and say GO BECOME A CERTIFIED STAGER, or let me run my business as I like, and I won't tell you how to sell houses!

07/08/2008 08:32 PM by Elaine Manes IRIS~Colorado Stager ~ A Wonderful Space, LLC (A Wonderful Space, LLC)


Kym, thanks for the response.  My contract will have new things in it and I'm sure will continue to grow.  I think the house will sell quickly and I hope she puts in as much time selling it as I have preparing it! 

07/09/2008 07:07 PM by Nancy Cleary (Domus)


Elaine, ah, yes, we had that conversation.  Now she is upset and I doubt about what I said because I was kind and clear.  I think she's upset because I said something at all... I think she views her efforts as teamwork.  Thanks for the advice.  Much appreciated.

 

Connie, come on!  I am so disappointed in you. LOL!  Yeah, I know, it's nervy, as another realtor stated.  I'm sure she thought it was Ok to just help herself, because, it was afterall, for a good cause...her commission, er, I mean, so the sellers can get top $$.  I wish we were paid handsomely for our efforts so when these things happen we just wouldn't care...Thanks for your wordless response.  It actually said allot.  :)

07/09/2008 07:18 PM by Nancy Cleary (Domus)


Wow, first of all let me say that I would be upset as well. That fact that she moved it, probably on the floorboard of her car without bubble wrap just drives me crazy. It sounds like she feels that shes your boss, as if you work for her when in fact you work for the seller. This is what you need her to understand. Great client or not, your self employed and contracted by the seller, the person who writes you the check. Period. Once you have made her fully understand this, you will not have things like this happen again. Trust me on this one.

 

p.s. Im new to this site and would love some assistance on how to add photos of my work to my profile... thanks

07/09/2008 10:25 PM by Joey La Fata (Exquisite Creations Home Staging)


We have a "don't touch our stuff" clause in our Agreements - and have had it for years.  The client (and Realtor) signs and agrees not to move, remove, relocate, touch or otherwise disrupt the Staging we have done for any reason without permission from us.  This not only ensures our Staging quality remains intact, but it prevents someone like your "red Realtor" from just helping themselves to inventory or putting things "they don't like" away. 

Put some boundaries in place - but realize that you have someone on your hands that apparently likes to have input in the way her listings are Staged.  You may end up compromising a bit on this issue when you want to retain the client.  It seems unlikely that she will change her need for making changes - although the way it is done could be greatly improved.  - Jennie

07/10/2008 02:22 AM by Jennie Norris, ASPM, IAHSP, We Stage Sacramento (We Stage Sacramento)


Nancy - for what it is worth I liked your choice of vase for the centerpiece so much better!!!  I think this Realtor has control issues - guess we should be thankful she doesn't take a staging course.... can you imagine.

07/10/2008 02:30 PM by Sandra Hughes-Redesigned Spaces-Virginia Redesigned Spaces - Fairfax County, VA (Redesigned Spaces - Northern Virginia)


Hi Nancy,

Definitely sounds like someone with control issues.  I really like the verbiage you will be adding to your contract. Your staging photos looked great!

 

07/10/2008 04:57 PM by Nancy Ewing, IRIS ~ Creative Angle REdesign (Creative Angle REdesign & Staging)


This is a good cautionary tale, thanks. I always have the homeowners sign a contract of course, but not the agent.  What a micro-manager!

07/26/2008 12:20 PM by Erin McGinnis, Marin/Sonoma Home Stager (Picture it SOLD! Home Staging)


Oh my, she's amazing.  I guess you know what to do and you'll know when it's best to do it.  Contracts have clauses based on battle scars such as this.  That's why our real estate contract is now 8 pages with 2 page buyer advisory...my oh my.

07/27/2008 01:49 AM by Terrylynn Fisher Realtor-Live Green, Live Smart Trainer (Diablo Realty-Buy Stage Sell www.StagersLIST.com)


Joey, Jennie, Sandra, Nancy, and Terrylynn,

Sorry for the late reply to your replies. 

This blog is about 2 weeks old, and I am very happy that I did write it because I learned allot.  My take on my loyal realtor is that she is collaborating and views us as a team.  I know very little about doing real estate deals so I stay out of her business.  She's the expert.  And, when it comes to staging, I am the professional, however, my loyal realtor DOES know allot about staging and admittedly, sometimes has great ideas.  I do appreciate her perspective because, after all, we both want the property to sell.  We have allot in common!  And, she is a genuinely NICE person.

Since our little incident, we have had a candid conversation and we were able to come to terms and agreement about, and I coin Terrylynn's clever term, "our creative differences".  She completely understood why I took exception to her moving my centerpiece without permission.  And, we talked about our unique relationship.  I am married to a realtor so I understand and empathize with some of her challenges and she appreciates the fact that I do understand the market, the terminology, and especially the timetables.  Since she staged all her own properties in the past, I explained that she is my only realtor that gives me extensive input.  I really do appreciate the input and feedback but reserve the right to have final say.  She agreed.

All is well and I have added quite a few more lines to my contract with the help of all of you and especially Terrylynn, who has an unbelievable command of the English language.  But most of all, she if tactful!

Thank you All! 

07/27/2008 01:05 PM by Nancy Cleary (Domus)


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