Selling an Atlanta home?  It's a good thing if you know what you are doing, and setting the right listing price is the first place to start.  Recently in the Atlanta I've noticed listings that just sold within the last year for lets say 250K.  The very same Atlanta home is now listed for sale at 475K.  What?  Yes, you heard it right!  The current Atlanta home seller hasn't done one thing to the property to justify the new price.  When the obvious is looked at closely by an experienced agent...reality is unavoidable!  It is obvious that because the sales are so recent...that interior photos, and features can be compared. The last sales data and marketing information are all available.  The previous owner was the one that installed the new kitchen, finished basement, and added in-ground pool and patio.  The new owner did nothing but stage around the old decor.  It is very obvious. 

I may be missing something, but I've never seen appreciation like that in Atlanta even in good times.  The neighborhood prices may still be +/- that same price range for a recent sale in a flat real estate market...and as a professional I'm at a loss to even fathom the logic.  I wish I could say this was an isolated incident, but is is more common than I would like to admit. From what I've seen... these overpriced listings have a few things in common. 

•1.       They are listed with new agents with little or no experience. 

•2.       The homes were all purchased with 100% financing in one form or another. 

•3.       Some are agent / owner. 

Perhaps the seller has watched too much TV and believes they can flip a home for a hefty profit.  It may be akin to kids jumping out windows when I was a child from watching too much Superman...and believing they could fly.  It simply isn't reality.  Perhaps selling Atlanta real estate should carry a warning!  "Please, do not try this at home, we are trained professionals."

My own thoughts are even if the Atlanta home seller were to get an offer, the home will not appraise, the seller will not negotiate, the current price will hinder any sale, and the seller will lose a year or more of marketing time before they come to there senses.  At that point, the home price may move lower than the current price point.  The reality is simple.

Because the seller purchased the home at market price, it means they will sell the home at a loss by the time the commission is paid, and negotiations are over.   They purchased a home at the peak of the market, just as the market started dropping.  It is the sellers problem.  Not all investments increase in price, and many drop in value.  Our stocks, bonds, and other material investments fall, and real estate is not exempt.  The consequences are unavoidable, but losses can be pared if the sale of the property is swift and reality based.  An agent that lists the home is an enabler, and too weak as a professional to tell the seller the truth.  Other agents simply by-pass showing the listing because of the unrealistic price, and back at many real estate offices...the listing agent is the brunt of many jokes.  There is a difference among agents.  When you go to sell a home, whom will you hire? 

 

 
This post has been included in Georgia Information Fulton County, GA Information Atlanta, GA Information
Post is included in group: RealtorsĀ®
Post is included in group: Mortgages
Post is included in group: The Art Of Marketing You
Post is included in group: RE/MAX Active Rain Bloggers
Post is included in group: Appraisers

23 Comments on Where Did You Get the Listing Price?

What a good example, Pricing the home should be done by a fully trained licensed professional.

07/17/2008 06:46 PM by Fort Myers Florida Homes, Deanna Casalino, Remax Realty Group (Remax Realty Group)


GOOD INFORMATION

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND

KEEP ON BLOGGING.

BILL

07/17/2008 06:46 PM by Bill C. Merrell, Ph.D. (Merrell Institute ~ Appraisal Education Network)


Bill C. Merrell, Ph.D. (Merrell Institute ~ Appraisal Education Network)  Thank you so much!  A professional agent recognizes value the same way an appraiser can only validate the obvious.

07/17/2008 06:50 PM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Bill C. Merrell, Ph.D. (Merrell Institute ~ Appraisal Education Network)  Thank you so much!  A professional agent recognizes value the same way an appraiser can only validate the obvious.

07/17/2008 06:50 PM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Did you send this post to the listing agent? Their response could be a whole new post!

07/17/2008 07:00 PM by Ellie McIntire Real Estate in Howard County Maryland (The McIntire Team of Long & Foster)


Jim, Always appreciate your posts!  This one is very good and states a common problem.... more common that most people want to admit.  It seems some Realtors will take any listing at any price at any condition.

We were looking at a house a couple of months ago that was three years old and listed at $86,000 over the prior purchase (on house less than $500,000).   Before I revealed I knew what the house sold for last, I asked the listing agent what had they done to the house since they bought it.  She said, nothing, they built this exactly the way they wanted it.  I remarked that I just wondered, since the house was listing so much higher in a market where this price house has been flat even before the downturn here.  She was surprised but at least did not change her story or backpedal.  

It was wonderfullly staged but I thought after we left that anyone that buys this house will likely be buying it partly because of things in it that won't be staying.  At least it does show the impact of good staging.

Well, everyone is free to ask for any price on what they own.  And so many people are now trapped in a house worth less than they owe on it.  That has to be tough but a failure to understand money and markets does not excuse you from the rules of the markets. 

All the best!!! Glenn

07/17/2008 08:17 PM by Glenn Phillips (Management, Coach, Speaker) (RealSource)


Jim, I cannot agree with you more for the sources of overpriced listings. The new agents do anything for a sign in the yard, some homeowners are under water in their mortgages, and agent owners should not price their own house, at least not without consulting another agent.

07/17/2008 10:13 PM by Gary Woltal - REALTORĀ® Dallas Ft. Worth (Keller Williams Realty)


Interesting post. I recently had my eye on something in Sandy Springs, and I knew for a fact that it had been on the market two years before.  The listing said 'new master bath, new renovated kitchen'. I asked my realtor to pull up the listing pictures from 2 years ago, and sure enough, it was the previous owner who had done the updating.  This owner was asking $400,000 more than what they paid for it in '06.

07/17/2008 10:27 PM by Sarah


Glenn Phillips (Management, Coach, Speaker) (RealSource)  You have some incredible insights!  I wonder how some...are clueless to value of such a large investment.  If you  had a stock portfolio...could you over estimate the values by 155K?  Why are the numbers so far off?  Could it be Zillo pulling from the million dollar neighborhood down the road?

07/17/2008 11:20 PM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Gary Woltal - REALTOR® Dallas Ft. Worth (Keller Williams Realty)  I do not think these agents are running it by anyone.  It makes me doubt their broker also!

07/17/2008 11:24 PM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Sarah - Atlanta is a scam town for a lot of real estate.  Buyer Beware...It is also what you cannot see...flood zones, structual isses, disclosures etc...  The new thing will also be tax changes, new water bills...  There are many changes on the immediate horizon.

07/17/2008 11:26 PM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Jim, in this time an place an appreciation of about 80% is unheard of. What or Why would an agent take this listing. It won't sell any time soon. As Realtors we all need to work together and not take an obvious over price listing. Let the seller place it up as FSBO. This strategy does not make sense in this market.

07/18/2008 07:34 AM by Frank Rubi Louisiana Real Estate-Homes for Sale (Specialized Real Estate Services, Inc.)


Jim, "good call". Everyone has a reason for needing to move (transfers, etc.) but what ever happened to just staying in the house for a while. Once again, this example underscores the symptoms of waaaay to lax underwriting. When we make our bed, we have to sleep in it. Only the very saavy investor can profit on a home and when they do, they are more than happy to take a 10% to 15% profits, but that is because they understand the dynamics of buying and selling homes and they do more than 1 a year.

Good post Jim

Bo

07/18/2008 08:11 AM by Bo Hussung/ Title services in all 50 states (Cogent Closing Associates)


Frank Rubi Louisiana Real Estate-Homes for Sale (Specialized Real Estate Services, Inc.)   Some folks just make bad decisions, I do not have to support one mistake with another.  More often than not, sellers bear the truth very well, and you can make the sale if they are realistic.

07/18/2008 09:33 AM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Bo Hussung ~ Cogent Closing Associates, LLC (Cogent Closing Associates)   Exactly!  I sold one home at a loss, and picked up a steal of a deal on the otherside.  For me it is all about getting from Point A to Point B!

07/18/2008 09:38 AM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Jim,

The poor appraiser is the one to take the heat. The recent home loan policies from the Federal Reserve specifically addresses appraiser pressure.

Lenders are checking AVMs, prior sales, square footage, everything.

It may list, it may go under contract, but will it appraise and will it get through underwriting, and will it close.?

Appraisers and lenders are on the hook at both ends.

Richard

07/18/2008 03:08 PM by Richard Smith Mortgages Home Loans FHA TN GA AL (American Acceptance Mortgage, Inc)


Richard Smith - Mortgage & Home Loans - TN GA AL (American Acceptance Mortgage, Inc)   You are so right.   I view myself as the first line of defense.  I am eceellnt with prices.  If I do not feel it would appraise...I advise, and if they are not willing to list at a correct price I move on.

07/18/2008 05:56 PM by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


Leave a response…

Name:
Notify me of new comments:
Comment:
What does the graphic say?
 
Real Estate Agent: Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)
Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO
Atlanta, GA
More about me…
RE/MAX Greater Atlanta

Office Phone: (770) 238-0122
Cell Phone: (770) 664-9516
Email Me
Atlanta real estate broker associate, real estate columnist for www.RealtyTimes.com, real estate speaker. Real estate marketing, Internet marketing for real estate, real estate coaching

Links

Tags (Tag Cloud)