Short Sales In Florida- This is an open letter to Note Holders of Real Estate in Florida. The comments that are added below are from others who have something to say to you note holders as well. Agents- please leave your comments below for the note holders.

 

 I have no idea if anyone with any clout in your companies is going to read this post but we hope that at least one of you will and that you really begin to take into consideration what we in the trenches are reporting to you.


We do a lot of short sales and work with a lot of lenders and note holders. 90% of the lenders we are dealing with are reasonable and try to understand the market somewhat.


Get off your high horses and come on down here, behind each one of those pieces of paper you bought called notes is a live person with a family and if they are seeking a short sale they have a hardship that is real and can be touched. We implore you to not only take responibility but to also act responsibly.

 

Yesterday, a servicer told us about your acceptance of a short sale for one of our homeowners with conditions.

 

Your conditions are so out of reach that I am not sure what planet you are living on.

 

Our sellers have a hardship. They can no longer pay their payment and are trying to avoid foreclosure. You are agreeing to a short sale with a full deficiency and requiring the sellers to bring money to closing? What sense does that make?


If you foreclose on this property you will get your defienciency judment. Perhaps you don't know collection laws in the state of Florida. You can not attach your deficiency to their primary residence but that does not matter because they no longer will have a primary residence.

 

All you are gaining from a deficiency is the ability to ruin their credit and keep them from getting any credit cards or buying a house. Well, that is a poor card to play when the homeowner is already broke.


You want them to bring $3,500 to closing to to add to the $3000 that the first noteholder is giving you? You are lucky to even get the $3000. If the first noteholder forecloses on the property than you are left with nothing but the deficiency. You can see their bank statements right in front of you. Where do you see this $3,500 coming from? It is just not there!

 

Why should the homeowner go through all this long drawn out process to do a short sale when they are coming out of it no better off than if you foreclose?


This short sale situation is about cooperation. You are not bringing anything to the table. Everyone else is working on this with reason. You are the one holding up the sale. You are the one that is being unreasonable.


You really need to go back and rethink your criteria in accepting short sales. If you are buying seconds all over the place then you should study each state's laws before you buy notes in a state like Florida.

 

Your tactics only force homeowners into bankruptcy. With a bankruptcy they won't have to bring the $3,500 to closing which they don't have, your deficiency will get wiped clean in the bankruptcy and then we can go direct to the first note holder and do the short sale with the first note holder and you will get nada, zero, zippety squat!

 

Hmmm,  that solution to your problem is looking pretty good right about now!

If you would like to call us to learn about the truth of the situation here in Palm Beach County Florida please do. We would happily take you on a tour of ground zero in a severely declining market so you can see what you will be inheriting by not cooperating on a level playing field in the short sales. You can reach Nestor Gasset or Katerina Gasset at 561-753-0135.

 

 
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24 Comments on Short Sales In Florida - An Open Letter To Note Holders of Real Estate In Florida

JUL
25
2008
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Damn Katerina...I LIKE it!!! Come back and let us know how this one turns out. Sounds like they are trying to squeeze juice from a rock. If the money ain't there it ain't there. I'm positive you get it worked out.

2:16pm • #1
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Katerina, I believe the "Noteholders" are so removed from the battle ground that they think in dollars and cents, not in human terms.  Good Luck. AJ

2:56pm • #2
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Katerina - I am also interested in how this turns out.  It will be interesting to see if you get any feedback from the entities that be.

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Jason Sardi- I know CW reads and they may even read my blog. But we don't have issues with them. If you read my post right before this one, I tell about how CW helped save a house from foreclosure and even then saved it again when the attorney went beyond his bounds. I want to say who this is, they are someone I will never do business with, an e- company, but I am afraid they will try to sue me. I am not sure how far I can take it as far as mentioning names.

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Bryant- Thanks! I think so too. Nestor and I bite in and don't let go. Nestor is like the pit bull when it comes to negotiating. The biggest problem is this second note holder is being serviced by a reasonable Servicer who even says that this is ridiculous.

6:08pm • #5
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AJ- You are very correct. They are being advised badly as well. Where they get some of this stuff, it is like way out there! We will get resolve. Determination and persistance is key to getting this done.

6:10pm • #6
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Well said.  Investors invest with risk and when the investment goes bad, they can't accept it.

They can probably manage a tax deduction for the loss. 

7:19pm • #7

Great Post and so true, you do wonder sometimes where these lien holders get their employees.  They do not understand the math.

Have a Great Day

7:41pm • #8
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Amen sister! I have 1 particular short sale that I have been deemed "making a career of" due to the banks unwillingness to cooperate. While others are flying through the process - UGH!

I have been MIA for awhile, so sorry if I'm behind the gun here, but I love your new profile pic!

8:36pm • #9
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Thanks for telling it like it is!!!  The lenders need to wake up and smell the coffee.

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Nestor & Katerina - I feel your pain. I have a short in underwriting right now, on the flip side - I have the buyer. The bank is dragging their feet after my buyer agreed to come up in price and pay what his bank appraised the property at. THer is only one note. How long does it take to cget a decision??? My buyer's rate goes up 1% next week if we don't close and he'll be walking. To me it's not brain surgery. The lender will not lend any more based on the bank appraisal. So, take it or leave it at fair market value - why lose a buyer when this is as good as it gets and the market is declining? What kind of value can it be sold for should they foreclose and it takes a few more months. Did I mention it's a declining market?  

11:42pm • #11
JUL
26
2008
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Lenn- And this company is based out of Virginia:)

You would think the tax deduction for the loss will help, but the investors are screaming, I am sure. They also tend to me awful right before quarterly reports are due. If it is still on the books, it is an asset.

We've had some playing hot potato with notes. We send the short sale package to one lender, they then tell us they just sold the note, we go to the next note holder, and they after one month of procrastinating the sale, sell it off to another note buyer!

2:19am • #12

This is perfectly stated and the absolute facts of the matter. However, apparently something happens to cause neural functiing to shut down when you become part of a lending institution. How else do you explain the fact that although the banks have their backyards full of more houses than they know what to do with, they continue to raise those interest rate, causing more foreclosures, costing themselves even more money. Greed has blinded them to the realities of thesituation.

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Karen- And they have a very strong lobby who keeps going back to congress to allow them to be in the business of selling real estate! This should prove to the whole country that it is NOT good for the consumer to have banks listing and selling real estate!

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Doris- I agree, they don't do math well. However, the employees don't make the decisions. The noteholders give them instructions and guidelines to follow and if they don't follow protocol and their ratios that servicer will lose that noteholders business.

5:43pm • #15
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Leigh- Good to see you around again! Good luck with your career short sale:)

6:16pm • #16
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Carol- I know, I feel your pain. We are losing a buyer for one of our listings, we don't have the buyer, she did not lock in her rate and now is going to get that famous denial letter which I have never ever before seen so many of!

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Excellent point Katerina - and seriously - you need to turn this into an e-mail and send it to the noteholder.

8:00pm • #19
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Nestor & Katerina....."Give 'em Hell Harry!"

I hope the right people read your post. Or maybe you can e-mail some people a link to it!

Tell it like it is....'cuz those people in the banks have no idea what's happing in the world out here!

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Simon- yes, we are going to allow the servicer to try to talk to them one more time before we go direct to the noteholder. You would cringe to know these folks are owning these notes and they are not even in the real estate business not even from a banking stand point.

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Thom and Ray- Yes, that is a good idea, will do it in a week if we don't get resolve.

8:53pm • #22

I am so over short sales.  Once buyers see what is involved and how helpless they are in the transaction they want to start their looking process all over and eliminate the shorts.  I am avoiding them if possible.   

9:56pm • #23
JUL
31
2008

I had a buyer about 6 months ago and after 2 months of waiting for the lender to either accept or reject, we just gave up. What in the world takes to months to decide whether you will accept, reject or counter? Good think it didn't work out because my client moved back to Australia, with a bad taste in his mouth for how our system works, none the less.

6:58am • #24

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