mortgage link exchange resultsFirst, "Top Agent SEO":  Read the silly ramblings of someone brand new to the SEO business in the "comments" section of this post.  The SEO of Top Agent SEO wants your money.  I hope his clients Google him before using this "top SEO."

Check it out folks.  On the left you will see a shot from my Reciprocal Link Checking Software.  (I just linked to a Google search on the software thing.  There are many to choose from.)

I don't really like reciprocal linking and you are about to find out why.  Personally, I find that you are much better served by writing good content and getting one-way links, just because people like what you write.  Check out my ActiveRain profile, #2 in Google, right after the sponsored results.  The search is for "Chandler AZ Mortgage", where I do business.

That baby (my profile) has a page rank of ZERO, but it is still where I need it to be.  Should I "exchange" links with anybody to "improve" my positioning?  Hell no!  Why mess with success?!?

My AR profile is also on page one of Google for the phrase "Arizona Jumbo Mortgage".  That's a good one.  There are 29 mortgage companies bidding on that phrase, including Chase and Wells Fargo, just to name a couple.  Those are the big commissions. 

Finally, my AR profile is on page one of Google for "AZ Home Loans"-- a highly coveted search phrase.  Again, I have a PR of zero and I don't have to play games with these link scammers.  (Can you see where this is going?)  

The aforementioned phrase-- "AZ Home Loans"-- has 19,000,000 results and 20 Google sponsors- most of whom are big players- but there is my AR page, right there on page one with the big boys.  For free.  And no links.  Gee, I wonder why?

Okay, back to the task at hand...

My software is still working, but so far, here is what we have:

1.)  Six sites are still being scanned.  They have the checkmarks next to them.  I was getting impatient, so I am typing this, even though the software is still running.  Type-A personality, no pun intended.

2.)  14 sites have screwed me.  See all of the "0 Link(s) found" lines just to the left of this sentence?  That means that those people took my link down, even though their link remains on my site.  I'll discuss this further in a moment.

3.)  Two sites have actually maintained their promised links with me. 

So, we've got 2 out of 14 so far-- that's 14%.  So far, on today's search, only 14% of the Realtors that I link to have maintained their link.  Or, as I prefer to look at it: 86% of the people I have exchanged links with are jackasses.

They have no reason to take my link down.  After all, their link is still on my site, just as we agreed!  Every one of those "0 links found" are Realtors that I have exchanged with.  I ran this a month ago and there were links found on every one of the pages you see here.  Today, they are gone.  Shocking?  Not really.  It happens all of the time and many smart SEO's know that reciprocal linking is the last route one should take in developing a good SEO strategy.  It's just not necessary. 

Now, I know some people on AR disagree with me on this, but before you comment, please note the proof: I've got awesome SERP and my reciprocal linking campaign is a big fat failure.  Fortunately, it is meaningless to me- again- because I dominate the Arizona search engine results. 

It's unfortunate, but I find that many Realtors and Mortgage Brokers engage in this unscupulous method of exchanging links.  That is, they will either use nofollow tags, they will take down your site, or they will "disconnect" their link page from their main site, so that when the search engine comes crawling, it can't find the link page. 

I like the last one the best.

I know many of you do believe you have luck with this.  Good for you!  But just know that there are better ways to drive your site to the top of the search engines and better SEO's, with better advice for you.  And, if you work on those better ways now, it won't matter if your reciprocal link exchange partners are jerks-- you'll get to the top on your own merits.  Personally, I would never set up a website that required my client to engage in this crap. 

all smiley about SEO

If you have an SEO that keeps insisting in the 1999 belief that reciprocal linking is the way to go, ask him why Karen doesn't have to do it and then send them a link to this post.  Get ready for the stammering.

You want to do this the easy way?  Do you want your AR profile on Google, Page one?  Stay tuned to my blog.  I'll keep giving tips if I get the comments.  (I need to know y'all are reading you know.)

 
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112 Comments on Top Agent SEO >> Top Reciprocal Linking Meanies

MAR
20
2007
173,945 Points 17 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Karen,

Thanks for the info.  I feel like I can let up on the reciprocal linking and spend time on other pursuits.  It seems the only people finding my website are web advertisers! 

Fran

1:44pm • #1
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No problem Fran.  I appreciate you reading!  Honestly, if you search for any of the best mortgage phrases, I've got Google nailed and I hate doing this reciprocal linking.  I only did it initially (against my better judgment) because some people still believe in it.  I am so glad to be done with it.
1:53pm • #2
617,648 Points 264 Featured Posts Outside Blog
No links for me! I am always getting e-mails from folks who want to swap links. I say no. Hey I'm already #1 for most searches in my area. I've never swapped a link and don't plan on starting. Your post is even more proof I have made the right decision.
2:20pm • #3
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Alright Bryant!  Thank you for the comment!  I am glad I provided you more proof.  That whole PR thing is a steaming pile of you-know-what.
2:23pm • #4
194,178 Points 48 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hey Karen,

THANK YOU for posting this.  I got in an argument with some other folks on AR about this very topic.  Here was my response post:

 http://hismove.com/blog/is-creating-creative-content-a-completely-contrived-curse-of-crazy-conspirators/

I thought you might like to see it...

2:26pm • #5
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Justin- you are the man.  Thank you.  I'll go check out your response right now.  I've gotten into heated arguments with people about this too, but they always seem to ignore the simple fact that my search engine results are great and NOBODY frigging links to me.  How about #5 in Google for "Arizona Mortgage"?  Come on!  That's the single most popular phrase related to arizona mortgages (of course) and I am #5 out of millions.  Let the reciprocal link people continue to waste their time...such a shame though.
2:32pm • #7

Hello Karen

I've had the same if not worse luck with links. I especially hate sites where you fill out a form, set up a link to them & then nothing. I emailed one Realtor, asking if she still wanted to link, maybe I'm naive. Now she sends me automatic emails about moving to her area.

3:54pm • #8
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Yeah.  You can take this form and shove it.
4:10pm • #9
410,299 Points 72 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Karen...

We have upset a few people by not linking, but as you can see it ain't worth it :)

There are just some headaches we don't need. Links are one of them.

TLW...ROAR!

8:32pm • #10
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It's funny.  The people that have argued this point with me before have not commented at all today.  I guess when you are presented with proof (my search engine positioning), you just kind of crawl away and don't make any comments.  Darn!  I was hoping for another one of these endless SEO arguments.
10:31pm • #11

Karen

 I like the humor you put in the link exchange community. I agree that you are much better served with other areas of SEO.

11:05pm • #12
MAR
21
2007
410,299 Points 72 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Karen...

That cracked me up. They never show up when you're RIGHT :)

TLW...ROAR!

9:11am • #13

Karen,

My head is swimming with all this new info!  I read through several linked articles and  found it very interesting!  I will be checking back for morsels of your Linkology!

Thanks,

Rick Turner 

9:21am • #14
MAR
23
2007

You are right in saying that reciprical linking is a pain in the butt, you do and exchange today your link is there tomorrow the unscrupulous ones remove it.

One way links are way better as the search engines sees them as being more natural and they carry way more wight, consider areticle writing and submissions andl inks from activerain.

On the PR note, just because the Google Toolbar shows ZERO it may well be carrying PR dependign on when the last Toolbar update was, Google calculates PR dynamcially but only updates the Toolbar about one a quarter.

Toronto Internet Marketing specialist Rob Parker

12:47pm • #15
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I have had very poor luck with link exchanges.  I feel that what you do to check is a must.  I don't spend much time on link exchanging either.  Why bother when I can post on here and create one-way inbound links?  Those are helping me quite a bit, thank you!

Rita 

11:15pm • #16
MAR
24
2007
Great, I just signed up for a bunch of online real estate directories the require reciprocal links.  Is this not a good idea?  I signed up with the 12 different directories independently.  Most were free and the two that required payment were for enhanced listings on 4 PR pages.  I only did directories with high PR on the actual link page.  I am really hoping this will boost my PR and placement but after reading this post I'm not so sure.  I'm still a bit confused about how blogging will increase my site placement on Google.  Am I supposed to provide links to my website (www.listinmls.com) in places like this or atleast on my blogs that I post?   
2:43am • #17
464,286 Points 28 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Karen, excellent point.  I recently found out the same thing about my website where I was told about reciprocal links and was never added.  I have very few backlinks and was told by my web site person that it doesn't count nearly as much as it used to, unless it is a very high quality site.  I get frequent requests to exchange links (I got one this morning!) but I've been turning them down. Thanks for the good advice.
9:10am • #18
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Phew! I've been reading about the pros and cons of reciprocal linking, and this information makes my decision a lot easier. I have been so frustrated at the lack of reciprocal links, and I'm glad to know that as a "newbie" that this is the norm, and not the exception!  Thanks for the great information!
11:18am • #19
MAR
25
2007
133,251 Points 29 Featured Posts
Mark-- STAY OUT OF THOSE DIRECTORIES!  Those are what are known as "bad neighborhoods" in the SEO world.  Directories are your worst bet.  Take down your links to them and let them remove you.  Trust me on this one.
12:41pm • #20
358,172 Points 5 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hold It Hold It!  The comments from some that they have never linked, will never link, and have no use for linking are using this lead reindeer story as a way to justify not linking.  Linkage is a wonderful experience...just not totally or all the time...but what is in life?  Sure you will have automated sites that miss the link back...that's why you have the software to check their validity.  But links to area info to avoid you having to go without or duplicating what is already out there...linkage was made intially for this purpose to help assemble helpful info that we broker types are suppose to do for the customer.  It is not a linkage numbers game as everyone would do it easily.  It is being in the right center of a topic or your sphere....being linked to the right sites.  Not quanity but quality.  It is not as simple as staying away from link farms...But don't not link...or at least make it you only link to sites high ranked / more popular than your own and hitch a ride...surf the wave.

 

4:45pm • #21
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26
2007
5 Featured Posts
Thanks for saving me useless time on the internet requesting my site to be added to thier site and visa versa. 
4:52am • #22
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Somebody named Brian Earl of "Top Agent SEO" posted a few comments here.  He ended up looking very foolish when I responded, so he deleted all of his comments and than sent me an email claiming that he was going to sue me for libel!  Too funny.  Well, since Brian deleted his comments that made him look silly, I will repost them for you here.  Hopefully, anyone desiring to use Top Agent SEO will find these posts.

Here's the first comment, just as Brian typed in, with no changes.

Karen,

Please stick with giving mortgage advice, and not seo advice.  I'm not here to promote reciprocal linking, but definitely want to clarify somethings.

You speak of playing with the "big boys" with your search terms.  My research on the terms you mentioned reflects minimally searched terms (if any).  Really you are not playing with anyone at all.

If you want to be a big dog on the Internet with the mortgage business, consider something like "arizona mortgage" which is much more popular.  Upon ranking high with "popular" search terms, you will deserve self "kudos", and maybe then you can dispense your "expert" seo advice.  Talk to your SEO person and get things on track.

The problem is that you are possibly misleading many people (or confusing them) with inadequate information.  Your overall story plot is "Look here, stop your linking, I'm on page one of Google with minimal linking" is simply irresponsible and bad advice.

As a former real estate Broker, I am fully qualified to discuss and advise on real estate, mortgage loans and more.  However that is no longer my business, so I don't give public advice (even though qualified and accurate), please reciprocate the gesture.

Brian Earl

 

Kind of a jerky letter, eh?  But that's what it was.  Verbatim.

Really, this doesn't even deserve a response- REALLY- but I will respond just in case anybody is wasting their money with Top Agent SEO:  (Yes, I can link to him here, because this comment has "nofollow" tags for the Googlebot.  Doesn't do him any good.)

My response:

Thanks Brian, but I will stick with what I do know and I am The SEO Person in my office. Educated, qualified, and obviously, your senior in this field. What was that you said? That I deserve Kudos for nailing "arizona mortgage" as a search phrase? Hmmmmm? I could be a "big dog" then?  How does number 3 in Google for the phrase Arizona mortgage. That was the phrase you wanted me to target right?

So am I a big dog now?  (Way to put that foot into your mouth!!)

The AZ Home Loan thing was just one of many for which I am in the top ten. Just thought I'd add another phrase. Again, no out-dated linking strategies needed. I have my own techniques that are faster, easier and better. I might add another phrase today.

Again, for my readers that want to learn: I am number 3 in Google for the most competitive search phrase that has to do with Arizona Mortgages (even according to Brian) and only a couple of my "link partners" have actually traded with me in good faith.

Reciprocal linking is a waste of time.

You see Brian, there are 16,000,000 results for "az home loan" and only 3,000,000 results for Arizona Mortgage. So even though I dominate Arizona Mortgage, I thought I would take another approach...just to prove my skills when there are more sites competing for a particular phrase.  And I did it, without links.  PR of ZERO.  Please pay attention!

The next time you want to attack me for not having a site optimized for "Arizona Mortgage," you might want to actually search for that phrase. It would save you the embarassment.

If you want to stick with the stuff that the academics dismissed in 1999, go ahead. When I got out of grad school in 2001, "reciprocal linking" was already considered worthless by the real pros.

One last thing, your official site is illegally using the word "Realtors" in your title. That's trademarked and you can not use it. Realtors get fined for that.  So are you breaking trademark law on your site alone, or do you do that for your long list of clients also?  How fortunate for them. 

This is why I went to business school. 

Another thing: On your site- "Top Agent SEO"- you are not using "alt" image tags which is a very important method of getting your site on page one. Your site isn't accessible to the handicapped (blind) and Google always gives more credit to sites that are handicapped accessible. Makes sense, right? You do know what an "alt" tag is, don't you?

Actually, I found many things wrong with your site, as far as what is considered to be good SEO content. Now I understand why you think linking is so important; you are missing the basic SEO skill set. If you want to, you can send me a check (we can discuss my fee in private emails) and I will tell you why a site like yours may actually need to waste hours and hours and hours gathering links-- the site is poorly done. If it were optimized correctly, you wouldn't need to do that.

Maybe IT IS YOU that shouldn't be giving advice, eh? You can apologize for your ignorance at any time.  If you were more gentle, I would have been with you. Keep reading and you will learn something. Start with the alt tags for goodness sakes. That's just poor SEO and web design combined into one bad website. For goodness sakes!

9:29am • #23
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Here is Brian's second post.  Which he also deleted.  Poor Brian of Top Agent SEO:

Hi again,

You have something interesting here.  Your website (not the AR page you spoke of earlier) is positioned as you said for "Arizona mortgage" at #3.  Excellent job!  

Your website has a PageRank of 3 by Google.   Are you aware that PageRank is based on linking structure?

So while you are suggesting to your AR friends to not do linking (as it sounded to me), that very thing is what has assisted you with your good positioning (along with your good SEO).

Linking is very important, mainy with Google.  Unfortunately there are some bad apples that promise to reciprocate and fail to do so (okay, sometimes liars).  That's when you know who your friends are.  While linking is a pain in the tush, it is necessary.

Great job on your SEO (really), just be more thoughtful with your advice.      

By the way, I liked the "Ha!", too cute.

Brian Earl of Top Agent SEO

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Nope.  You don't slink away.  Instead you boldly declare your ignorance for the world to see. 

Brian, you're not paying attention.  Please read what I wrote again.  Also, if you ever want to comment on my blog again, I would say that "reading it first" would be a good rule of thumb.  I never said that you shouldn't have links.  I think you should have thousands and thousands of links, just not "reciprocal" links.  I believe reciprocal links cancel each other out and so do many other SEOs.  Reciprocal links are for people that don't know how to properly optimize.

You really have a lot to learn, but I will be happy to teach you, as I try to be a good Christian. 

1.  I can't remove my inbound links at your whim, as I don't even know who links to me...if anybody does.  Don't care about the links and don't care about your request.  Irrelevant to THIS article, which talks about a site/page with a PR of ZERO and no incoming links.

2.  You addressed my "bad advice", but my SEO is good?  What the heck does that mean?

Okay Brian, since you haven't slinked away, let's put it like this, real simple-like:

If you search for AZ Home Loan, I am in the top ten for my ActiveRain profile.  Period.  End of story.  That cannot be disputed.  Right?

Okay, well, there are thousands of other pages targeting that phrase.  Are you with me so far Brian?  However, let's just say there are 50 competitors.  (Which is very generous of me.)

I, however, am number 6 (I think).  Page one anyway.  And my ActiveRain profile has no inbound links whatsoever.  Unless, of course, somebody has linked to me and I don't know it.  But, based on your post, PR is driven higher with links and my PR is ZERO.

Got it?  Are you sure?  Comment on that from now on- that is the topic at hand.  Not your personal attacks.

You say that I am giving bad advice because AZWM.com has inbound links?  Well Brian, we weren't even talking about AZWM.com in this post.

Would you like to share with our good readers why my AR profile beats out, oh (forget the 18,000,000 results)-- how my site beats out 50 other competitors with a PR of ZERO?

Answer that question, and you will actually be participating in this blog.

I would never give "bad advice" to anyone.  I am an excellent SEO (as you admitted) and  I only said that reciprocal links do not make sense. 

4:51pm • #24
MAR
27
2007
358,172 Points 5 Featured Posts Outside Blog

To really boost your webpage's traffic, you need to focus on how to gain top placement on the major search engines, Google beeing the obvious no. 1. While all search engines calculate their results differently, they all have one major thing in common: Incoming links. The number and relevance of these links are - along with your written content - the single most important factor to gain a higher position.

Simply put - The search engines count one incoming link as one vote, the more the merrier. But all links are not equal, there is NO democracy in SEO. Instead, the link's value are based on how many outbound and incoming links that page has. The debate about what links count the most will most certainly continue - But one thing is for sure: Incoming links are necessary to gain a high rank on search engines.

Please don't simply write off linkage as a necessary sport whether you subscribe to it or not.  Let each rainer collect, digest and decide on their own.  Make up your own mind after doing the homework and considering all points of view. 

8:43am • #25
MAR
28
2007
133,251 Points 29 Featured Posts

Well folks.  It looks like Brain couldn't answer my question.  And he accepts money for SEO.  Funny stuff.

Anyway, Andrew is right:  getting high PR links is more valuable.  That's why I will pay for the occasional text link from an important site.  It's as good as 50 links from nobody websites.

8:01am • #26

Karen, Thanks for the tips good post!!

Good Day!! have a cup of java and a smile on me :)

8:37am • #27
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Comment by Brian Earl:

Wow, in an earlier message you brought up something about being a woman, now your throwing in religion, and to boot, you are giving me legal advice. 

These points about handicap friendly and Alt Tags are very basic techniques.  Please spare your viewers.

You had an overall theme of negativity in your original blog while trying to sound liike an expert.  If you didn't notice, the people you were griping about "So, we've got 2 out of 14 so far-- that's 14%.  So far, on today's search, only 14% of the Realtors that I link to have maintained their link.  Or, as I prefer to look at it: 86% of the people I have exchanged links with are jackasses" are Realtors.  Realtors likely feed your business and put food on your kitchen table.  You might want be more careful next time you decide to vent or brag.

You remind me of a small child in the classroom that was always raising their hand because they always had the answer... whether right or wrong.  Often times there is value in listening - it's a great skill.

So the bottomline is, regardless of your sex, religion, or possession of a law degree, - linking from quality sites is valuable!

11:55am • #28
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You crack me up Brian.  You managed to spew a bunch of angry verbiage but not address any points.

You poor guy.

Here it is again.  See if you can follow along: 

Would you like to share with our good readers why my AR profile beats out, oh (forget the 18,000,000 results)-- how my site beats out 50 other competitors with a PR of ZERO?

And yes, you are right about ONE thing.  Incoming links are good.  I never said they weren't.  Would you mind telling me where I said otherwise?

What you said was that I was worthy of dispensing SEO advice if I nailed "arizona mortgage", which I do.  Then, I proposed a question to you and you just insulted me.  Never answered my question...  Hmmmm... 

11:57am • #29
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This was pretty much it folks.  This morning, he threatened me with a "libel" suit.  I laughed so hard, tears came from my eyes.

He comes in here, insults me without merit (actually he insulted me regardless of my merit), and than quickly deletes his Top Agent SEO posts and shoots me an email after he takes his ridiculous attack down.

It might have been a mistake, but I went ahead and put your posts back up Brian.  Something that hilarious should never be taken down.  Thanks for the laughs!  I'll be waiting to hear from that lawyer any ole day now.  The idea of you dropping a few hundred for a cease and desist letter (one that I will use to line my puppie's cage), is too hilarious!  Please send it!

12:02pm • #30

Hey, you deleted my last comment from just 15 minutes ago.  Why is that?

12:29pm • #31
133,251 Points 29 Featured Posts

Because you deleted all of the comments that you made...you know, the ones that made me look great and made you look foolish.  You deleted the one that said I would be a big dog if I could nail Arizona Mortgage, which I do.  (Insert foot.)

Than, leaving my comments up, you threatened me via email.

Sorry, you can't pick and choose your comments and you definitely can't advertise your services here, after demonstrating that you aren't fully qualified at this point. 

 

12:39pm • #32
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[ Deleted Brian's rambling ]

Didn't even read it Brian.  Didn't even skim it.  Too busy doing SEO.  Don't have time for somebody who simply declares themselve an expert.  I won't read any of your comments anymore, because I think you are a waste of time.

Top Agent CEO is a waste of time in my opinion.

Just go away.  I am not reading your ridiculous rantings and I don't offer a forum for self-declared SEOs that don't have the educational background or experience.

Sorry.  SEO is free.

2:24pm • #33
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Brian, just as I was deleting your ramblig post, I just glanced up and noticed your last, psychotic-sounding sentences:

Brian of TopAgent SEO wrote:

You do mortgages!  I do SEO!

Well, first of all, by Brian-the-Brains own admission, I am a good SEO and deserve kudos.  So...  If I am a good SEO and deserve kudos, why would anybody pay Brian?  (Especially after the way he conducts himself in an online forum.  He should have slinked away...)

Brian, in your honor, I am retitling this post.  Just in case anyone wants to use you Top Agent SEO for SEO.  They just might find this post in Google in a couple of days.

 

3:01pm • #34
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Brian-- just did a Google search for "Top Agent SEO."  Check out number two!  That's funny.  I hope people Google you before they ever think about using you.

Also, noticed I changed the first paragraph and the URL of this blog.  Go ahead, take a look at your address bar.

Leave your crazy ramblings up.  I don't care.  Instead, I will use this to make sure that your future clients find this page.

To anyone thinking of using Top Agent SEO:  Contact me and I will be happy to recommend somebody that has been doing this for a number of years and has a computer / information systems education.

Thanks Brian.  Good luck to you.  I suggest you start reading about SEO and start writing some brilliant text in your own blog.  I'm sure you're a wealth of information.  You can show your clients how to violate trademarks and improperly code a site.  When somebody asks you a question, you can ignore the question and act like you've just gone off your proverbial rocker.

Feel free to give me a valuable back-link.  Oh wait, I'm already number 2 in Google for Top Agent SEO!  How about that!

3:09pm • #35
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Mark Hetrick-- send me a private email with your question.  The comments are getting too clogged here.
3:39pm • #36
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2007
250,012 Points 16 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Wow, Karen, this is an incredible post.

I have to concur with what you've written; I have a similar success story for the site I designed (and optimized) for my broker.

KUDOS TO YOU! 

3:53pm • #37
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Karen--I love your post and agree wholeheartedly.

I work on my content more than links and have had a Google page rank of 3 and held it for several years. The best thing is that when someone searches Keller Williams Minnesota on Google I am #4 without expensive SEO paid advertising...Just good old fashioned hard work and good content!

Looking forward to new ideas from you...

4:59pm • #38
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Good for you Teri!  That's the way to do it!!!
5:01pm • #39
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Thanks Karen for the heads up. I did a check of my reciprocal links and 2 out of 8 had removed their links so I did likewise.
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Wayne- that's pretty good!  You only are dealing with a 25% jackass factor.  Trust me, the more links you get, the more jackasses.  You have an unusually high amount of honest people.
12:28pm • #41
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Boy!  Was I pissed or what?
1:01pm • #43
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Not only...

Were you pissed. I read every comment that came in just to see if you'd get "un-pissed" :)

TLW...ROAR!

3:33pm • #44
Wow.  I just learned more about SEO in this thread (thanks Karen...and Bob too I guess) than I ever thought I'd need to know.  I knew SEO for a fee could be a scary move, and I knew blogging was a "natural" way to optimize, and this thread has confirmed that for me as well as giving me some great technical information!  Thanks again.  <The newbie scoots off the the side>
4:27pm • #45
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Karen i truely understand you frustration with using linking as a strategy. I will say that i does work when you are lucky enough to meet a handful of ethical folks who are sincere about linking.

A good real estate directory that i have found, that does not require reciprocal links and is pretty reliable in updating you link is www.realout.com. Give them a try. I am already receiving backlinks from them from the short time i have tried.

Another website i trade link with is www.buydominica.com . this website only trade quality PR1+ for PR1+

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Michael and Karen George

Chandler, AZ

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Arizona Home Loan & Mortgage

Address: Chandler, AZ, 85248

Office Phone: (877) 551-8188 x 81

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    Michael George, Branch Manager, of Arizona Wholesale Mortgage (corporate office: Chandler, AZ), will post general information about Arizona Home Loans and Arizona Mortgages.

    National Wholesale Mortgage provides Colorado home loans, New Mexico mortgages, Utah mortgages, and California refinances.

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