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The Senate is meeting in a rare weekend session to rubber stamp the housing bailout that most in this country are against.  The cost of passing the bill will saddle us and generations to come, while it bails out the companies that should have failed by reckless lending practices, and knowingly giving loans to those they new cannot afford to repay.  It is no wonder thatCongress has totally lost touch with the will of the people.  NAFTA has taken all of the manufacturing and high paying union jobs our of this nation, and reduced our economy to a service sector non industrial base that pays less than half the wage.  It seems as if our housing bubble for the last few years was nothing more than a Ponzi scheme that borrowed from Peter to Pay Paul!  That only works for so long before it collapses. 

The realities of this bill is not understood by many...including those in real estate is that it will artificially keep the price of housing high beyond the reach of many home buyers, and will raise interest rates.  It we let the chips fall where they could have instead of bailing out everyone that knowingly speculated with someone else's money.  Now they want to avoid the consequences..and who better to do it before election time but Congress?

Senate to Pass Housing Bill. PASSED!

*** For All those that think this was a great idea, did you know there was a bailout for Chrysler built into this?

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36 Comments on Senate Ready to Pass Housing Bill - Do We Need this Bailout?

JUL
26
2008
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Jim, working on the weekend is my first thought that something isn't right. I agree and say let the chips fall where they may. This will not help the average person in the future. It will only make landlords have an easier time. People will be price out of purchasing property or the terms will not make sense.

9:59am • #1
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Jim-I do not not know how this will play out with the election and all, but, lending money to help lenders that failed at lending money? Bizarre...

10:05am • #2

Unfortunately the answer to your question is YES. There are parts of the bill I don't like, such as the four billion dollars being given to cities to buy houses. As an Atlanta resident, Jim, I'm sure you would agree city governments are not the best choice for dealing with housing of any type. We need the bill to provide a bottom to the falling real estate market. One of the very good parts of the bill is an end to down payment assistance programs for FHA loans. The harm done by such programs far exceeds the good.

With an 72 to 13 vote in favor, the senate has sent the bill on to the president. Whether that is good for the country will be seen over the next couple of years. I do think it will make the economy better than it other wise would be, but we are in for a rough ride anyway.

10:23am • #3

Normally, I believe the free market does work more efficiently than government intervention.  However, we are in a situation in which the free market is severly broken and jammed.

The cycle of foreclosures leading to more foreclosers  must be stopped. If you let the chips simply fall, the cycle will intesify as it feeds on its self.  It is rapidly sucking in not only the theives and fools that cuased it all, but the entire economy.

When the skillful hand of the market is broken, the clumsy hand of government must act.

10:34am • #4
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Jim,

This bill is not necessary. There are many who think it is, but the bill oversteps, overreaches, overspends - way overspends - and under delivers.

Steve

10:45am • #5
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Well you elected these men and woman to be your voices, let's just pray they are your choices.

11:22am • #6
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Jim,  I agree with you entirely - we are giving money to lenders who couldn't make sound business decisions before.  Now we reward them with a gift from taxpayers.  We are going to pay money so we can be in worse shape down the road.  I think we should go back to 1776 and start all over again.  Karen

11:29am • #7
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Japan went through something real similar back in the 80's and 90's.  The banks had bad loans and never wrote them off.  Till this day it lingers and the fact is their stock market has gone no where.  I guess that is what we are going to have happen.

1:19pm • #8

We need the housing bill. There is little to no motivation on the streets for homeowners to buy right now with the rates up. We've gotta get things moving, and Fannie and Freddie NEED to be functioning properly for the global economy.

Read my post everyone that gives some of the great details. It was just approved by Senate this morning. I'm sad it's the taxpayer that will bear the brunt, but I believe it is the lesser of the two evils.

1:22pm • #9
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Frank Rubi Louisiana Real Estate-Homes for Sale (Specialized Real Estate Services, Inc.)  I agree Frank .  However, news is out they just passed this!

A quote ....Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, the leading taxwriter who supported earlier versions of the legislation but objected to the rescue plan for Fannie and Freddie. "This bill has fallen prey to the special interests on Wall Street and K Street at an unjustifiable expense to taxpayers and homeowners on Main Street," Grassley said.

2:30pm • #10
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Get Us A Home Realty  This bill is not abuot your or I...it is about them.

2:31pm • #11
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Greg Myers (Greg Myers Appraisal)  I disagree, it is going to prop up failing banks by permanently inflating the conforming price deflating the values of the dollar, and remember to vote for me in November on your way to hell.  The permanent raise in conforming loans will try to prop up over inflated home values that were only attainedby 100% loans.  This is running interference with the forces of a free market, and I guarantee this will cause many other problems down the road.

2:34pm • #12
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Anonymous...the folks are bailing out are the ones that knowingly caused the problems!  There have been no indictments, no real investigations...but lets throw more money at the losers so they can kick it back to us.  That is not a joke either...they are not forbidden to lobby congress in this bill!

2:37pm • #13
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Nancy Larson (M & T Bank)  My choices have not voted as to what they represented themselves when they ran for office.

2:38pm • #15
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Karen Kruschka (RE/MAX Allegiance)  Karen I totally agree!  We are going to be in deeper stuff down the road.

2:39pm • #16
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John Walters (Specialized Real Estate)  The fix is a credit allusion.  Hey everyone, it is all better now.  Let's get back to selling overpriced homes.

2:41pm • #17
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Christina Ewing (Countrywide Home Loans, Inc.)  What are the lesser of evils?  Your money, your future and no real reset or fixing what caused this?  I do not see your logic unless you just need to make a few more deals.  I want more work too bu at what price do you sacrifice your values?  Throw it right back on the backs of the taxpayers?

2:43pm • #18
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Do we need it? Maybe not but we got it. I think there are good and bad aspects to the bill but, as with everything the government does, there are always hidden agendas, a little pork, some grandstanding and a bit of knee-jerk included. I guess we'll just have to see if the harm is worth the good.

7:45pm • #19
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Gene Wunderlich - Selling Southwest California Homes / Temecula & Murrieta (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)   After reading it several times, and yes I was shocked there are provisions for Chrylser in there... I am wondering who will use it?  If it seems smart to refinance a payment that has ballooned to $3600 a month from $1400 a month  ( this is only an example)  will a person do this?  Will they qualify for it?  Will they want to reaffirm the debt if the home has dropped invalue?  Is it fair to fix at a lower payment one person, while the person that put in 20% into the deal worked years to save up down payments...has faithfully paid the mortgage but is locked in at 6.25% and this other person gets a lock in at the teaser rate of 30 years fixed at a greatly discounted rate?  It seems like a lot of questions were not thought about.  The $7500 credit for first time home buyers is also more like a loan in the sense there is a repayment over a few years...

I do know that when markets change, they change for the worse when government interferes.

7:58pm • #20
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Hi Jim: I'm a free market guy so I always view this stuff as too little too late. Plus, the death of DPA programs such as Nehemiah are troubling to me. Contrary to what the evidence says, the homeowners who have taken advantage of this through me are young first-timers with steady employment, good credit, and decent income. Oh well, I suppose the ride might be even rougher without the government bailout. I just think alot of these programs are bandaids and it might be better to let nature run its course! Take care.

 

Paul

8:05pm • #21
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Paul McFadden (Exact Financial Group)  Paul I may have differences of opinion on DPA...but look at the specifics of this bailout!  Don't like the Federal Debt?  We are now in our first trillion dollar budget (deficit) with this bill!

8:23pm • #22
JUL
27
2008
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Jim,

The only bill they should pass is to have all the banks immediately relieve people of foreclosure..short sales or just take the house back without any repercussions. After all they started this problem in the first place. Just face up to the mistake and let them take the loss just as the consumer is stuck doing.

9:33am • #23
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 Neal Bloom-Realtor ® Assoc.-CRS-Weston FL (RE/MAX Premier Associates)   You are so right.  This bill is not a consumer bill as many in real estate mistakenly believe...it is a bailout of the banks...andyes there is a provision in it for Chrysler!  It is loaded with pork barrel giveaways with your tax dollars!

10:07am • #24
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Jim,

I agree - originally I was all for the bill.  But learning more about it raises a number of eyebrows... seems to be a facade on many levels !

I wrote this post yesterday on the tax credit .  Would love to hear your thoughs about my opinions on that portion of the bill.

Is dubious to say the least !  I also saw the item about the Chrysler thing... OMG.

10:20am • #25

I not sure how to feel about this whole thing, I mean here we go bailing out mismanaged banks as well as consumers who did not have the good common sense to understand what they were agreeing to.  Should we (as a profession) be held accountable as well?  Did we ask enough questions from the lenders as well as the buyers?  I know one thing though, our kids will be paying for this with higher taxes in the future!

4:05pm • #27
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Rick Turner (RE/MAX Executives)  I believe those that in real estate that are saying this is great, obviously have not read any of the provisions. We all want our businesses to get better, but at what price?  The credits are really no interest loans that have to be paid back.  They are qualified by your income.

6:58pm • #28
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Who is being bailed out?

The foreclosure provisions require a significant write off, as I understand them. Second Mortgage companies are being asked to take a hit. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac may not need the additional cash that is being made available.

Some cities will be able to buy back some properties in distressed areas. Maybe as many as 400,000 people will be able to avoid foreclosure and stay in their homes, after the banks write down their mortgages.

It was a bill already in place when the headlines came crashing down. I do not think there is much there that can lessen the foreclosure crisis or bail out a bunch of lenders and home owners.

And I really do not see much there that will stop what ever is causing these delinquencies. What is causing these delinquencies? I understand subprime and Alt A - high payment adjustments, unverified income, and for some weak credit profiles.

Why are the conventional loans in default? Verified income, verified assets, good credit, fixed historically low rates.

The provisions that I do not like are increasing the FHA downpayment and dropping DPA. Jim, I know you are strongly in favor of dropping the DPA, but I am sure that it will impact the qualified buyer pool. I am not sure that it will ease delinquency concerns. DPA was never allowed with conventional lending.

Richard

7:12pm • #29
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Richard Smith - Mortgage & Home Loans - TN GA AL (American Acceptance Mortgage, Inc)  The banks are being bailed out.   Why should cities have to buy back anything?  With whose money are they going to do it with?  I like real estate because I earn a great living from it, but I have a conscience...where does the money come from to bail this all out?  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac conveniently got a free bailout - they've been cooking the books for years!  Whos money is being spent here?  The conventional loans that are being defaulted on in many areas in Atlanta were from the no money down fraud, flippers, investors neighbors.   So now we'll sit back and bail out all those that caused this.  This bailout is not so much for the borrowers but the lenders, and the greedy banks.

7:33pm • #30

Fannie and Freddie had to be "saved" to prevent a run on the dollar and a gobal financial nightmare... Unfortunately there does not yet appear to be a "permanent" solution for Fannie and Freddie built into the bill. 

I doubt this will have a significant impact on the currrent house debacle, but just result in more inflation and a lower standard of living for Americans. Sorry, but if you need DPA you were NEVER qualified to own a house as it means you have no contingency funds in case of an emergency which is a guaranteed formula for future failure. Let the "qualified buyers" liquidate some of their assets showing they really do want to own and are willing to put their money behind their promisses.   At least the bill seems to do away with DPA and goes back towards more conservative lending practices which we know leads to fewer defaults. It makes no sense to have anyones largest financial decision ever (buying a house) be swayed by a DPA program.

 

Phil
9:23pm • #31
JUL
28
2008
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 Phil   Very well said Phil!  I do not think the impact of this bill has sunken in yet to most people.

12:06am • #32

Phil, you hit the nail on the head!  One thing that troubles me, as Jim, you have alluded to, is that Fannie & Freddie can still lobby Congress and that no heads are rolling!  These GSE's should be broken up and their power split.  In my opinion there have been crimes committed, and our nation has been damaged! 

10:37am • #33
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I think that the foreclosure cycle should just play itself out. There are other Americans that need to buy homes.

11:03am • #34
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 Rick Turner (RE/MAX Executives) That is why some that were for this did not vote for it.  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac really color outside the lines a lot.  This is the reward for all the lobbying from them.  I believe I even read a story in the NY Times that stated this.

2:05pm • #35
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Tina Maraj Shah Realtor (RE/MAX North Orange County  I agree, but why bail out crooks? This bill is not for the homeowner...it is for the banks that gave out bad loans and now you are bailing them out on your dollar.

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