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Let me begin by saying that this is undoubtedly the LONGEST blog post I have ever written! I apologize in advance, But the subject matter is crucial to gain a better understanding of where we're going...

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It's been interesting, to say the least, to observe the response and resultant discussions across the Network regarding the recent private BETA launch of the new Localism.

Member comments have covered the full spectrum from thrilled elation to threats of mutiny. We're either the best thing since sliced bread or the Anti-Christ. In a social network of our size, it's rare that you please everyone, most of the time, regardless of how hard you may try.

First, let me just state for the record that the powers that be at ActiveRain have always been open and responsive to the opinions, input, and feedback of their members. They have never turned away a deaf or uncaring ear, but have consistently remained sensitive to the needs of their valued members. That's been one of the primary hallmarks of this platform, and a main reason for its success.

Additionally, they have always been extremely transparent and forthright about their plans and intentions. They have worked very hard to earn/merit the trust and respect of this community.

If, for whatever reason, your voice/opinion has gone unnoticed or without meaningful response, please do not take that as any indication that your thoughts are not valid or appreciated. We genuinely attempt to answer any and all questions. We have repeatedly posted numerous 'featured' articles in response to your questions and concerns, and have been busily responding to literally hundreds of member posts by interjecting informative comments. In spite of all our efforts, we've still missed many of your concerned thoughts, either in posts or comments. We apologize if it appears we're inattentive or uncaring. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Since its inception, the phenomenal success of ActiveRain has been the direct result of a mutually beneficial cooperative collaboration. The visionaries/designers of the platform created/streamlined the vehicle, and our members provided the fuel (content). Together, we've achieved some truly amazing results - results that have been beneficial to all of us.

However, there are some clearly pronounced concerns over the direction we've taken with the new Localism. We have some truly passionate local content contributors who have invested a significant amount of time and energy. They have valid concerns and deserve reasonable, intelligent answers.

It is my intention here to help explain and clarify a few things, and to simply offer my $.02 worth as to why I feel contributing to Localism makes for a wise investment of your hard work/effort.

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The guiding vision of Localism was to create a viable on-line environment where real estate professionals and consumers could have a meaningful dialog, and talk with each other.

In order to understand the value proposition of the New Localism, we need to revisit what was offered in the previous version.

When the Old Localism was first introduced, we all jumped on the Local Content bandwagon. I think my first Localism article was about crabbing (Gee, fancy that!). We all busily populated our local City, County, and State pages with various articles, market reports, listings, etc. Our posts were proudly displayed in the relevant geographical location for all to see. And, if we amassed enough points, our profile pic showed up as the "Featured" member. Life was good!

  • Never-mind that Localism was never released from its BETA form.
  • Never mind that few consumers ever found their way there.
  • Never mind that, due to various reasons, Localism was put on a back burner, and lie dormant for months on end, without any content updates.

Nonetheless, because we were publishing our wonderfully relevant local content through our AR blogs, the search engines were happy, and consumers were finding us!

And now we come to the New Localism. It's not like the old platform. It's different. There's been some changes made. And Lord knows, many of us are resistant to change. Which is rather interesting, considering the fact that we pride ourselves as an industry for embracing change!


The basic premise isn't any different - "contribute good, relevant local content to engage and attract consumers to your blog."

"Content will always be King here on ActiveRain."

Those who achieve the greatest success with Localism will be those who consistently write/publish helpful, practical, informative articles for consumers, period. There are no shortcuts to that process. True success at blogging takes time, effort, and commitment.

THEN & NOW

In the past, when you would categorize and publish your articles to the old Localism, your listings would show up under 'Listings,' your market reports displayed promptly under 'Market Reports,' and depending on geographic location/topic, your posts would show up under the respective City, County, or State locations. When the site was being updated, the articles would be pushed/shifted down the page by subsequent articles, and become part of the indexed archives. Each article would also become part of the respective blog author's archives.

In the New Economy, all articles, with the exception of listings and market reports, show up on Localism within 10 to 15 minutes. They remain on the respective page until the Localism editors review it. If the article is approved, it will remain on that page. The length of time that a particular article remains in view will depend on how many other subsequent articles are approved, and push/shift your article down in descending order. Any articles not approved simply become part of the author's post archive on Localism. In the near future, there will be a link button for listings and market reports that will redirect you to a separate page for that respective geographic location.

That being the case, what we need to ask ourselves is this:

"What's more important - that YOU see your articles showing up on Localism, or that consumers find YOU through your articles?"

The window of opportunity/time for people to actually 'see' a given article is limited. The realities are that, initially, most consumers are going to be searching the Internet using key search terms, and will find your articles/profiles through their searches, not by necessarily accessing/viewing the Localism pages. As Localism gains traction through our aggressive promotion, and becomes a viable consumer destination, we will be incorporating numerous RSS feed options that allows people to subscribe to specific content segments.

On the Old Localism, depending solely on your AR point score, you had the possibility of having your profile pictures displayed on your respective city, County, and State pages as 'Featured' agent/member.

On the New Localism, we have 'Top Neighbors.'  Since Localism will eventually be partially populated by people who are NOT ActiveRain members (local residents, merchants, etc.), a more equitable method for determining 'Top Neighbors' was needed in order to be fair to all participants. Scoring for 'Top Neighbors' will be primarily derived from the amount of content you contribute to a particular region/community. Additional points will be awarded for 'approved' posts, pictures, and videos. Like ActiveRain, we will also award points for comments made on Localism posts.

Let's take a few minutes and talk about the 'sponsorship' of communities and neighborhoods. Many people are looking at this 'option' with an attitude of the glass is half empty. Their contention is that anyone can come in and sponsor a neighborhood/community. Without posting a single article to Localism, they can drop down some cash once a month, and pay for space on the neighborhood/community page, similar to a Google AdSense or Sponsored Links campaign.

Will some ActiveRain members adopt this mindset for sponsorship? No doubt. Some people are always looking to gain additional exposure. Will it be effective without any meaningful content to back it up? That's hard to say. When you search for something on the Internet, how often do you click on the Sponsored Links? Or do you normally access the Organic search results instead? Sponsorships should be like 'MSG.' They are designed to bring out the flavor of all your Localism ingredients!

But this 'purchase-only' mindset is simply one strategy. There are many other positive 'glass-is-half-full' strategies that can be employed by members who have consistently invested and contributed solid local content.

Imagine if you've been farming a particular residential development. You may even live there, and be active in the Homeowners Association. What better way to solidify your position and enhance your sphere than to sponsor that specific development on Localism. Send out a mailer and solicit involvement on the development page for all the residents. Have it become the local community bulletin board to share upcoming events, advertise garage sales, school events, whatever. And guess what? There you are right in the middle of it all!..

Maybe you're representing a builder for new construction, a downtown condo project, or an older upscale resurgent neighborhood. Perhaps even a commercial development could be created?...the possibilities are numerous!

Sponsorship is only an 'option.' You don't have to 'pay-to-play.' Many members will most likely continue to publish good relevant content to Localism, as they have been, and enjoy excellent returns on their contributions without sponsorship. According to Jonathan Washburn, Co-Founder of ActiveRain, sponsored areas will only comprise less than 5% of the overall content of Localism.

In the end, regardless of how much information we share, or how many times we attempt to explain our vision/direction, there will continue to be those who are suspicious and/or critical. That's okay. We welcome your concerns and continue to solicit your input in the process. Hopefully, over time, your outlook/opinions will transition to one of cautious optimism, and eventually, heartfelt support.

The long-term vision of Localism is huge, and we are only seeing a small portion of that vision right now. There is a tremendous future and potential for this community of ours, to make a positive impact in our industry, and in the communities we serve, as we all continue to work together!

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151 Comments on "Going Loco Over Localism!"

JUL
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Yes it's long, but you convey some important messages that needed to be broken down as you have done.

It's a very big vision with incredible potential for those who support and believe in what we're doing Rich. 

Thanks for taking the time to put this "well written" post out there for the masses, it's very timely.

10:01am • #1
1,073,708 Points 2 Featured Posts Hit Router

Rich

activerain and localism can really be a fun and addicting thing.

Sincerely

Tom Braatz

1:58pm • #2
880,148 Points 210 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

it's rare that you please everyone, most of the time, regardless of how hard you may try.

That's point number one. You guys always listen to input etc (like you said) so why even try and please all?

"Content will always be King here on ActiveRain."

That's Point #2. I continue to be confused. After the hair removal thing I was told that those types of "ads" are hyper local content. 

Is that for real?  Ads vs. content.

 submitting this and starting more :)

1:59pm • #3

Thanks for the perspective.  As for your question, "What's more important - that YOU see your articles showing up on Localism, or that consumers find YOU through your articles?," that's a no-brainer -- I want them to find me through the articles.

2:03pm • #4
880,148 Points 210 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Oh...and thank you for doing this....i was wondering where it was :)

 

Next:

"What's more important - that YOU see your articles showing up on Localism, or that consumers find YOU through your articles?"

Well, that's what I was asking.... Ads vs. content.  But I know what you're saying. Google finds me...so what is the benefit of google vs. localism and being a neighbor?

 

According to Jonathan Washburn, Co-Founder of ActiveRain, sponsored areas will only comprise less than 5% of the overall content of Localism.

So in the end....content is what matters....and no matter if there are ads and such that what we write is what the public will find anyway, right?

 

 And last point: This is for everyone.

 


There is NO OTHER NETWORK THAT LET'S US voice our opinions. Just for that....I LOVE THiS PLACE :)

2:06pm • #5
284,607 Points 37 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Rich, I read through this entire post...do we get extra points for this:).  Honestly, I do think this is the best summary to date of where you are and some hints at the future.  Since I write so many localism posts anyway, I figure I will just do my best and my future clients will find me just as they are now.  And, sponsoring my communties will expand my marketing outreach here at home.  Can't wait until Thurday...can you handle the traffic?

2:08pm • #6
303,799 Points 39 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Very long Rich but I read every word.

I still haven't played around too much in localism to really get a feel for all the changes but I will.

2:09pm • #7
493,598 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Sally - I am speaking to you and the rest of the AR members here. For us, the strategy has always been, and will always be, publishing good relevant local content to attract & engage our readers. That's our mission. Coming from another AR member, that hair removal thing wasn't an example of hyper local content. It was simply annoying. But the realities are that eventually, Localism will be populated by people other than AR members, and content is going to be interesting.

2:12pm • #8
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Rich,

Just wanted to say how noble of you guys to keep on assuring the community that their input and content is important.  I say this with all the best of meaning behind it.  I certainly think that anyone who as been an active participant in this community and still doesn't understand that is missing something, and that's a darn shame.

You are right, you can't please all of the people all of the time, but bottom line is that A/R is still allowing the option of posting for free.  Members who do will get results because most  consumers will be lead to localism via a search engine, not from typing the URL in their address bar.  It would be great when that does happen, and I suspect the cost of sponsorship for the communities should then double. Because at that point A/R will have a sufficient WOM and offline following without the great domain name like REALTOR.com has, no easy feat.  It can happen, but hasn't yet- regardless, the "free" posting will still be effective, because again, people will still go to the search engines.

As far as the paid advertising- the cons, etc.., I am still not understanding the problem, but it is like anything else.  A/R has always been free, and although, there is still that option, the introduction of a paid plan is going to ruffle a few feathers, that's just the way it is.  For those that continue, free or paid, they will reap the results of growing contribution and popularity- i.e. search engine attention and WOM frenzy.

Who doesn't want to be a part of that?

So A/R folk, just keep on keepin' on- you are on the right track.  Thanks for continuing to evolve.

2:14pm • #9
482,745 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Hi Rich,  Thanks for the in-depth review of the direction we are all going.  There will always be some reluctance to change but you guys have done a heck of a job so far.  Good luck -  keep moving forward !

2:17pm • #10
350,805 Points 24 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich - I am glad that you brought everything into perspective with your summarization. Surely, it is for each individual to decide on the sponsorship of neighborhoods although I believe that relevant "Content is King"

2:21pm • #11
227,453 Points Outside Blog

Rich, I have to say that things change and they change quick. People are just going to have to pick and choose what works for them. I still think this is great concept and we owe much success to it. 

2:21pm • #12

I've been reading and reading and reading ... all the various comments on the new version. Yes, there may be those that don't like change, but I think many of us - especially those of us with outside blogs - are trying to sort through our blogging strategy and whether the new Localism will be a plus or minus to that strategy. I don't think a reluctance or caution to participate should be construed as being resistant to change. We're just evaluating ROI, just as we do for any portion of our marketing plan.

Localism is different ... now we simply need to decide if or how we want to use it.

2:22pm • #13
214,785 Points 5 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

I read the whole thing and it will be interesting to see how things evolve!  pippa

2:28pm • #14
274,634 Points 41 Featured Posts Outside Blog

RICH - I can honestly say that I'm not as concerned as most about the top neighbor spot.  I write my posts so that they can be found by Google, and subsequently, by the consumer.  My biggest concern is the fact that Localism is narrower than AR.  This is also true of the outside blogs. 

Some of the most important content that I've put on Localism cannot be read because of the narrow posts.  Is this being addressed, or is this the way that it is going to be?

2:36pm • #15
497,655 Points 103 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich- I say to those who are whining about paying for sponsoring a community...go read my post about what costs Realtor.com charges to sponsor a zip code....that is a true pay to play concept...this is a great online community for anyone involved in the real estate field!

2:36pm • #16

Rich, Thank you for taking time to write this post.  I think it is the longest post I have actually read.  LOL  I am a big fan of the new Localism but I have criticized the editing.  I know you guys listen to what we are saying and are unable to address a issue if it is never raised.  Believe me my intentions are not critical (I am a fan) they just show concern.

In this post you state, "Additional points will be awarded for 'approved' posts, pictures, and videos."  I think that is more than appropriate but it brings me back to my criticism of the editing.  If an editor has a favorite blogger it only makes since that this blogger would get more "approved posts."  Or, if a blogger ruffles some feathers she might not get as many "approved posts."  So, while content might be king to become the top neighbor, I fear "approved posts" could turn the tables unintentionally toward an editor's favorite blogger.  Is this something I should be concern about?  

2:41pm • #17
200,508 Points 27 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I think the communication with the consumer will be the most challenging = most rewarding part of this.  Folks have the opportunity to leave comments from Outside AR now - but few do.

I would encourage you - as you are developing your big picture to consider making an area where folks can "ask your neighbor."

Just another idea.

You guys rattled?

2:45pm • #18
493,598 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Elaine: We can definitely appreciate reluctance and caution, and certainly don't misconstrue that to be resistance to change. Your time and effort is a valued commodity. We should always employ prudence and discernment when evaluating where we are going to invest our blogging energies! Especially for those of us who have other sites!

2:46pm • #19
493,598 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Adam:  I don't know what the specific fix is there. It may be that we create publishing templates on AR that would allow us to create posts for Localism & our Outside platforms, so we can tweak them accordingly. But I am confident that a resolve will be determined.

2:48pm • #20
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Rich, thanks so much for your updates....now...

Can you give us a time frame, July 31st is Thursday and you being a Realtor know how many closings take place on the last day of every month. Now I have 2 scheduled and Christa 3  so how am I going to have someone sitting by to buy my communities?

Seriously, I need to block out time to be here as I do want to sponsor communities in Ann Arbor.

Thanks !

2:53pm • #21
493,598 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Eleanor:  Rattled? Nah....we love our jobs. We love our jobs. We love our jobs.....  How do you see an "Ask Your Neighbor" feature working?

 

Jimmy: All I can tell you is that we will make every effort, as we have in the past, to remain neutral and equitable in what is 'approved.' One of the keys will be ensuring that we spell out the specifics of what constitutes 'approved' content, so you guys know exactly what to shoot for. Remember though, that 'approved' articles are simply one element of your exposure on Localism. It's like the 'Featured' articles on the AR Dashboard. It's nice to get the Gold Star every once in a while, but it doesn't pay the bills.

 

2:55pm • #22

Rich- I liked the picture of the glass of water.  I didn't notice if it was half-full or half-emty though, all I know is that it made me thirsty!  Towards that end, Localism is there for the "taking" so to speak, some will look at it and think "Woe," and others will look at it and think "WHOA!"  The former, might not want to "drink" because the "glass" isn't full enough, while the latter will drink it all in and look for ways to keep water in the glass. (They may have something to say about the taste etc...but I'm sure you can live with that.)

2:55pm • #23

Ditto to Adam's concern! I spent one Saturday afternoon adjusting my AR profile to fit the outside blog profile, then along came the new Localism and half of it is missing because of the "things" I had to do to make it fit the outside blog dimensions. It looks awful on the Localism profile. Also, having problems with the posts themselves.

2:58pm • #24

Rich, That was a lot of reading and I know I missed a lot of points even after reading it twice.  People who want to uses Localism will use it.  Did you hint that a lot of the market reports that have flooded localism (cut and paste posts) will be separated?  Or, were you hinting that if someone is putting in a market report, if they actually put in some content and frame the post with their creativeness, they will get more points. AJ

3:00pm • #25
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Thank you for this information.  I've only been on the system a few weeks and feel that I've come a long way since first joining.  I think the concept of Localism is great.  And so far, I've been very impressed with AR and the many members on the system.  I've felt informed, assisted, and like I'm part of a large and professional community.  I look forward to contributing to Localism and getting the word out about Modoc County and the many wonderful benefits of living in this community.

3:02pm • #26
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Rich,

I am a newbie, but active. And I am sold on Localism. My passion for Localism and Active Rain have led me to be perhaps overly critical and concerned about the localims changes.

My concerns are that the sponsorship is based on first come first serve. I think there are options to exclusive sponsorships offered first come first serve. My ideas on this have been communicated.

Top neighbor placement criteria has also been a concern. Your post provided some clues to that criteria, but it would be helpful to me to understand more about relative weight given to the criteria.

AR posts
Localism posts
Localism photos
Localism comments
Localism comments
Number of posts
Recency of posts

Other criteria

I love the new Localism, and the new blog posting page. I am on page 1 of google search for chattanooga FHA - 3 different results.

I have been on AR a little over 2 months. Powerful.

The professionalism that is exhibit on AR by the members and the staff has made me a better person, even more than making me a better originator.

Thanks for the post. I appreciate the transparency of this move, but I still have concerns.

Richard

3:03pm • #27

Rich,

This was a very long but informative post. I just read the posts by Russell lewis and also from a couple in Florida that gave a wide range of points to consider. Thank you for adding to the dialogue in a helpful way.

3:03pm • #28
405,635 Points 34 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich,

As a fellow contributor in part of this discussion I appreciate your post! Long yes, but necessary and I hope that everyone who views this will read it in its entirety. I am looking forward to the release and hopefully Active Rain will be flexible and continue to work with the member to continue making AR and the new Localism something that will be a benefit for all who wish to participate.

Thanks again - Russell

3:09pm • #29
402,631 Points 40 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Hi Rich...Just as we would like Active Rain to continue to be the place that provides us with beneficial information and a means to develop relationships with other professionals and consumers, I am sure you and the others, holding our fate in your hands, want the same.

I believe all of you have the best intentions for all of us, not just yourselves, so I am confident this is going to work.  It may take a while but you will get it to the point where we will wonder how we managed without it. 

That is what I now say about Active Rain.  Down the line I am sure I will be saying the same thing about the new Localism.

You are doing more for me than I have been able to do for myself when it comes to getting my name out there.  Thank you for that and for all the rest.

Kate

3:11pm • #30
453,374 Points 15 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Rich - thanks for writing.  I'm looking forward to the "big launch" and will continue doing my best to write content that will be approved. 

So are localism points separate, or do they get added to our regular points?

 

3:17pm • #31
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Localism will eventually be partially populated by people who are NOT ActiveRain members (local residents, merchants, etc.)...

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, with content coming from AR members and non-members, alike.  Will local businesses use this simply for advertising?  Is that going to constitute "acceptable content?" 

Maybe you're representing a builder for new construction....

If we want to set up a dialogue within a small "topic" community, rather than a "geographic" community, how will that work?

"What's more important - that YOU see your articles showing up on Localism, or that consumers find YOU through your articles?"

No doubt, having consumers find me is the ultimate goal. 

Brad-  It was a long post, but I read every word. Thanks for being so upfront, concise and transparent, in sharing the vision for Localism.  I know there are still questions but the upside potential appears to be boundless.

3:17pm • #32
493,598 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Just a friendly reminder....Brad is one of the 'other' ActiveRain Community Builders. We're easy to tell apart. I'm the dashing handsome one....

3:20pm • #33
343,266 Points 36 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich, I also share Adam's concern about the display of market reports and images on Localism.  Additionally, images in posts that display just fine on AR are showing the dreaded red X in Localism - I include a lot of photos in my posts (my own, of course) and to see empty boxes takes away the impact of the entire post sometimes, especially if the point is to highlight things about a neighborhood!  I hope that there is a fix in place before you go live to address this.

3:21pm • #34
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Marilyn:  That will be interesting to observe as it unfolds. We'll probably create some acceptable posting guidelines. I don't see any reason why you couldn't create a topic related area. There are a lot of variables that we can create!...

3:24pm • #35
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Penny:  Both, I think. You'll still get your points on AR for Localism posts, like you do now. In addition. you will be accruing points separately for your involvement on Localism.

3:26pm • #36
384,516 Points 28 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich, I think you have done a great job in helping us all understand. You post was an easy read!  Loved the glass half full. Oh how true.  I suppose this will be a wait and see, for many of us. I'm going to hop on board and just "roll with it" and see what happens:) 

 I'm with Missy on requesting a time. That would help all of us out! It would be GREAT if we could have a scheduled time and price list in advance for our areas.  I know I have several areas in mind, since Huntsville is a "smaller city"  compared to others and most of us show property throughout the entire county.  I do have my favorite areas and would love to know what my initial outlay could/would be.  A menu of sorts, I suppose?

3:39pm • #37
597,151 Points 45 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Rich - thanks for all the explanations. It's really all about being found by the consumer. All of our posts: on AR, on outside blogs, on Localism all show up in google.

3:39pm • #38
200,847 Points 11 Featured Posts

Rich, This is a lesson that I learned early in life and I have thought my children that: you can never please everyone.

Active Rain has, is, and will be (I truly believe) the strongest platform for us to blog and establish new business. If one wants to continue surviving in the most powerful real estate network, then they need to adjust and move on with the changes. Thank you for posting this fantastic and instructive article.

3:51pm • #39
168,330 Points 15 Featured Posts

Rich....Didn't matter that it was long.  It was informative, clear and direct and I thank you.  It's going to work out for everyone. If you don't get hold of the fear ...the  fear will take over your life ( that's someone's quote not mind)  In this situation it is the fear of not knowing. I know you community builders are doing everything possible to make things clear.  It is not a cookie cutter project.  It takes time .  We just need to adjust our thinking and trust. This A wonderful world we live in called

Active Rain,

we need to take care of it  thanks again .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3:54pm • #40
254,681 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router

everyone needs to eat. you can't doing everything for free. I know tha tI am getting a $4500 active rain pay day this month.

3:58pm • #41
493,598 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lisa:  As I commented to Adam, I don't know what the fix/resolve is just yet. It may be that we need to adapt or posting methods to fit the smaller size. What I would like to see is the blog publisher template on our AR blog that would allow me to draft articles for Localism and the Outside Blogs, so I could see what my limits are, and what it will look like when published.

3:58pm • #42

Too many comments to read. I would agree with Adam, until formating is corrected I doubt consumers will read the articles anyway.

And what's with Black for color???

Gary
4:09pm • #43
350,297 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Rich - Thanks for taking the time to listen and to keep on explaining.  I think it will be most interesting to see how the new Localism evolves.  And I do think it will be an evolution and that things will probably get tweeked as it goes along.  I think that AR has been a class act so far so I have faith that the new Localism will be one as well. 
How will Thursday go?  Will the platform be able to handle all of us.  I do intend to try for my neighborhood.

4:29pm • #44
191,802 Points 2 Featured Posts

Aloha Rich

i really like the new Localism, and everything you spoke about.

1 problem though - I hope you can address it for me. I live in Hawaii, needless to say everybody has been here, and has taken hundreds of photos. So there are agents form other states that are posting photos in our localism - I assume to make points. Shouldn't this be limited to agents that live and work in the neighborhood??? I mean they have pictures of other cities posted in Kailua Kona - they really have no business posting in our state - unless it is for pure points - they are even listed at the top of some of these cities as top agents?

Other than that - your doing a great job - thanks

Aloha, and have a great day

 

Lance Owens (RS)

(808) 936-8383

Lance@KonaHomeTeam.com

www.KonaHomeTeam.com

Aloha Kona Realty Inc.

78-6740 Alii Drive

4:34pm • #45

Thanks Rich - Active Rain is a wonderful gift to our real estate community.  It has been both pleasurable and profitable to be involved.

If anyone should understand the struggle involved in change, it would be our profession.  We deal with families who are moving for a variety of reasons and few of those reasons are easy and completely by choice.  Some of the things that I read from people concerned that the change will not meet their highest good sound similar to a teenager that has to move because I a parent has recieved a promotion and job transfer.

Just like the teen has to understand that the parent knows what is best for the family, I believe that the developers of this site have shown nothing but a high regard for those of us who benefit from the communication vehicle.

Keep listening...keep improving...and we will adapt to the changes.  More than likely, we will like the changes very quickly - even though some "tweaking" may be in the cards to adjust to the new environment.

Thanks for your commitment to make this fantastic!

4:34pm • #46
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I don't really see what the big deal is.  Localism still isn't showing up very high in the SERPs.  They've changed the look of the page, I can do that on my wordpress page with the click of a button, and added a few features (I disagree with the paid featured spots, but I guess they gotta make their money like everyone else), but I still haven't seen anything mind blowing.  I'd like to see a lot more scrutiny on the posts.  You can really give the wrong impression about a place if you don't know what you're talking about and a lot of the postings coming out or AR in general are mindless dribble, so I hope they tighten that up with Localism.

4:34pm • #47
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Thank you for this post!  I do feel it has always been about content and that the web is very transparent to those who just blog to blog! (When I was newer, I feel into this) Now I am looking forward to bringing information about a neighborhood to a the public. As we all know in this business, we can not please everyone!

4:38pm • #48
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Rich ~ What patient people you guys at ActiveRain must be!!! I cannot imagine how frustrating all of this must be....100,000 different personalities and mind sets! All I can say is, thank you so much for your patience with us all!!

Thanks you for trying to clear this matter up and explaining the goal of the "new" localism...

4:41pm • #49
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The more info, the better, dashingly handsome Rich.  Thank you!

4:45pm • #50
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Hi Rich,

I think Localism is going to be fantastic for the 'traditional' real estate agent.

However, I'm not traditional in the items that I write about nor the prospects that I write for. I wrote one post to go over there, it wasn't approved.  I wrote another one that was not real estate related (about a park), it had no personal branding anything on it, it went through and was then removed by the editors.

That's 2.  I'm afraid to post another one to be quite honest.  I'm tied as to what I should do.  If the content I write is not "localism material" then ????  Don't know.

4:52pm • #51

Keep up the relevant blogging

4:56pm • #52
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Ok, so it is a little long winded, but great stuff just the same.  Frankly I think you guys at AR are the best thing since sliced bread.  I have a few other nominees for the Anti-Christ title, but we won't go there. :)  Keep up the great work!

5:18pm • #53
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Daniel:  You're in good hands with the Ketchup King. He should be able to help you attract more readers/comments, allthough more consistently posting wouldn't hurt either. Not everyone has the luxury of a Tomato Blog, although I'm sure Jim wouldn't mind if they did. Localism isn't showing up as well as it should because it's still in private BETA. Once we officially launch, and begin our promotion, it will perform quite nicely. We now have Localism Editors on Staff to review and approve all content. Hopefully, that will help to weed out a lot of the 'mindless dribble.' We're going to release 'Mind Blowing' next month, so stay tuned.

5:20pm • #54
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Nice job and a good overview -- I think it was caring and objective at the same time.  I agree that most  people I know in the real estate industry secretly (or not so secretly) really DO hate change.  Sometimes they come kicking and screaming along -- only to embrance the new idea later.  I have seen this pattern over and over again -- I am sure it will be the same with the changes on Localism.  Good luck to all at Active Rain -- there are some bugs to be worked out, but I am sure you will address legitimate concerns.

5:28pm • #56
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Rich:  Thanks...you are too funny:)

5:30pm • #57
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No one cares that I exsist...no one answers me...WAH WAH!

5:30pm • #58
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Rich, thank you for taking a ton of your precious time to enlighten us.  I am indeed grateful for your detailed post.

This is NOT a democracy.

The founders have bent over backwards to GIVE you a useful tool, and they have honored our feedback with action to improve the AR experience.

The founders are the decision makers who make choices that support the grand vision of this project.

I'm stunned to read posts from members who are, on the one hand bragging about the money they are making thanks to AR, and on the other hand, griping about the possibility of chipping in a few coins to keep this ball rolling.  Their sense of entitlement knows no boundaries.

AR is free of charge to us right now, but the founders are paying for server space, bandwidth, and software.

When AR turns into an 800 pound gorilla of real estate information on the web I want to be part of that critical mass, and I EXPECT TO PAY MY FAIR SHARE.

The business model for most of the successful web gorillas has been to offer a service for free to build traffic, then sustain growth with revenues from advertisers, and make it profitable so that the founders stick around to keep the thing going.

We give Free CMA's to get in the doors for listing appointments that lead to $commissions$.

AR MUST BE PROFITABLE IN THE LONG RUN OR THE FOUNDERS WILL LOSE INTEREST, RUN OUT OF MONEY, AND DROP IT.

We're all in business for ourselves to make a profit.

5:32pm • #59
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Can someone please pass Neal the box of Kleenex?

5:34pm • #60
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Erick: Thanks for your equally detailed comment. There are indeed times when it's rather disheartening after you've been working so long & hard to develop something of value for the community, that it's met with such immediate & intense criticism, even before its had a chance to become fully functional. But, hey, that's okay. We'll just keep plugging away!

5:38pm • #61
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Hi Rich,
Thanks for the detailed explanation.  As I've said before, I trust the "AR Gods" and their vision.

5:42pm • #62
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It just goes to show you that when you do want attention on AR you'll get it:)

5:51pm • #63
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Rich--I guess after reading your long, detailed explanation the best thing to do is continue to post good local content and let the rest take care of itself. People (potential clients) find the AR posts and blog and I expect that will continue....no matter what the format!

Thanks for taking the time to explain it...again and again and again! :)

6:24pm • #64
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I would have to agree this is the LONGEST post I have ever seen from you Rich.  Thanks for the insight.  I have to be honest there are things that I still dont understand.  I will just have to see how this one plays out.

6:42pm • #65
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Rich,

Another question (sorry in advance),

If agent #1 sponsor's a specific community...do they own that community (so to speak) and do they as first purchaser's of the said community have the first right of refusal to purchase the next month and so on, or are you going to allow other's to purchase by noon PST the last day of every month?

It seem's as though there could be a monopoly by some agents, so that other's working in the same area, as there is, was (and they will return when the market changes for the better) and everyone should get a chance to purchase the coveted position.  I for one hope you do not offer these sponsorships on a yearly basis...share the LOVE! 

Can you explain please.

6:46pm • #66
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I want my glass to be half full and felt pretty good about your explanation until I read Ruthmarie Hicks' concerns, so now I'm scratching my head again. Don't get me wrong, I love AR and still learning my way around but I do see some strange stuff now and then and hope that the new Localism will not be used as a new way to game the system.

There, I said it...

6:47pm • #67
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Rich...i do not think your post was too long at all and contained very valuable information for us all to take into consideration going forward...however, I have seen my google juice dry up a bit since the change.  I am not sure if this is a quinky dink or relative...only time will tell....keep up the good work you guys...

6:49pm • #68
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Rich- Thank you for adding this update link on my post. And thank you for making more clarifications. I am sure there will be things to work out, as new projects are always a work in progress. I noticed that on the new Localism there are no flags for alerting you of spam and plagiarism. Before this opens to the public is that something that will be put in place? I already found folks stealing copy for their readiness for the land rush. As more and more of the 'public' is invited to participate, there will be more spam and plagiarism.

6:49pm • #69
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Debbie:  Tell me exactly what your concerns are, based on what you read on Ruthmarie's post?

6:52pm • #70
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Katerina:  Good question. I'll find out. I know that our Localism Editors will be watching over thing very closely - a luxury we really haven't had here on AR.

6:54pm • #71
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Katerina,

I for one, wish they would postpone tomorrow for another month until all the issues and concern's that I have read today are addressed. I too am concerned about the spam and plagiarism.  I also have issue with the fact that if you do post a blog and you edit the blog...it does not update on Localism...at least the last time I checked.

I think perhaps going live with the sponsorships is pre-mature. JMHO.  Let's make sure all the i's are dotted and t's crossed first.

6:55pm • #72
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Karen: Tell me specifically what issues and concerns you have read about today. SPAM and plagiarism have been issues here on AR, and they will continue to be issues. No one on the Internet is protected from such things. Fortunately, we will have Localism Editors to assist with much of the content, which is certainly an improvement over what we have now on AR. Whatever you edit here on AR should update accordingly on Localism. It may take 10 to 15 minutes, but it should transfer over. If we do decide to move forward with the Land Rush, it would be is very small doses, State by State, not all at once.

7:01pm • #73
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Karen:  People will be allowed to sponsor a given neighborhood/community for as long as they wish. You will have access to a community/neighborhood status board, that will show currently sponsored areas and those that are available.

7:04pm • #75
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Rich - I found my way here from Ruthmarie's post and I appreciate the update.  While, I have certain reservations, I had already decided to trust you guys and join the frenzy tomorrow.  Although, there are certainly going to be issues, I believe that you will work through them quickly and support your members. I imagine that each of you has already spent countless hours working to ensure this launch goes as smoothly as possible.  For that I would like to thank-you! 

For the record, my biggest concern is about the page format.  Like Adam and Lisa above, I am concerned about losing pics, bleed over, etc.  The template you suggested would certainly be a welcome tool.  I've removed some of my posts from the OB because they looked bad and were a poor reflection of what I intended.  Quite honestly, I don't need any help making myself look bad.

7:06pm • #77
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Hi Rich...I just wrote a post on The Black Hole.  For some reason, and I really do not know what it is, I cannot find my more recent posts on Localism even though it says at the bottom of the post that they are there.

I am missing a number of them posted since mid-June.

Will they ever appear there?

Kate

7:06pm • #78
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So your not going to allow other's to share the love?  How is that fair?

There are many agent's here on AR in my particular area...so if one person purchases that community...no one else will ever get to break in? Isn't that monopolizing?

So, how are we going to know when our particular state is up and running?

7:08pm • #79
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Well, what are we really buying here? Is is counties, towns, zip codes, subdivisions...I'm just not really sure. For instance, there are hundreds of subdivisions in my area and 6 listed as popular communities. Sorry, but I'm still confused.

Not don't get me wrong, I really like to new look of Localism and it's intent.

7:11pm • #80
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Rich...  Why does content just disappear from Localism?  I've seen several decent posts go away... never to be seen again.

7:18pm • #82
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Aloha Rich,

Dont know if you missed my comment earlier - is there a way to do anything about all of these out of state agents posting photos on our area - to be blocked - they dont know the area and are posting photos of Hilo - under towns like Kona ? Shouldnt it be reserved to agents from that area?

Info on old blogs - I went back and edited post from last year, and added the town in there - and it showed up on Localism abount 30 minutes later - just now

7:20pm • #83

Rich - Thanks for taking the time to write.  The new Localism platform over time will bring us, the local realtors and our blogs with relevant local contents closer to our customer base. We will all benefit participating and contributing to make Localism relevant to the customers we serve.

 

7:21pm • #84
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Good question.

Another area of interest is Fort Lauderdale...can you copy and post that list as well???

Thanks.

7:21pm • #85
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Rich...  There is only one real problem I see with the sponsorships.  Jon alluded in one of his posts that the communities will be added by the membership, and the members can then sponsor the communities they add.  In his example, he even brought up a member being able to "make" a community that is already part of another community (ei.  Happy Acres already exists, so Noo B Agent "creates "North Happy Acres"). 

Well, if I am paying for Happy Acres, I'm going to be a little ticked that my market just got eroded by NBA with their creation of a part of my community. 

The next problem is scale and cost.  Here in Lilburn, GA there are 41 communities.  These range from 15 home "subdivisions" to a few hundred homes.  Elsewhere in the county there is a development (one community) with 2400 homes.  They are the same price... 

While I know that it would be beyond the scope of A|R to know the number of homes for all of these hundreds of thousands of communities, I think that a better plan is going to be needed.

I was hoping that I would get a chance to talk with a couple of you guys in SF, but never got the chance to talk about this junk (too much actual fun taking place...).

7:23pm • #86

That may be the longest blog post ever written by anyone Rich! ;)


But it's a dandy!  I wish you the utmost success with Localism.

Jay Thompson
7:24pm • #87
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Rich,

Thanks for taking the time to update regarding the Localism.  Unfortunately, being new, I never saw the old Localism, but what I have seen from the new Localism is a great foundation and base for growth, traffic, and so forth.  The opportunities are vast.. I certainly see the opportunity and have already seen a couple of our posts hit the Philadelphia Localism.  Thank you for everything that you guys do.  You rock !

Philadelphia Real Estate

7:25pm • #88
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Okay...I took a break. Went to a signing ...then got my toes done :)

Thanks for the answer Rich. I need to talk to you again. I need pro-fessional advice. :)  Gotta wait for the battery to recharge ....

7:25pm • #89
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Debbie Summers:  The explanation is there in my post:

In the past, when you would categorize and publish your articles to the old Localism, your listings would show up under 'Listings,' your market reports displayed promptly under 'Market Reports,' and depending on geographic location/topic, your posts would show up under the respective City, County, or State locations. When the site was being updated, the articles would be pushed/shifted down the page by subsequent articles, and become part of the indexed archives. Each article would also become part of the respective blog author's archives.

In the New Economy, all articles, with the exception of listings, show up on Localism within 10 to 15 minutes. They remain on the respective page until the Localism editors review it. If the article is approved, it will remain on that page. The length of time that a particular article remains in view will depend on how many other subsequent articles are approved, and push/shift your article down in descending order. Any articles not approved simply become part of the author's post archive on Localism. In the near future, there will be a link button for listings and market reports that will redirect you to a separate page for that respective geographic location.

7:26pm • #90
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Jay: WHEW!..thanks, man. Your encouragement was perfect timing!  

7:31pm • #91
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Lance: All I can say is that our Editors will be dealing with all photos, both current ones, and those to be uploaded in the future. Personally, I agree that you should only be allowed to post pictures to your own local area, but that's me. I think the much bigger issue is to ensure that the photo offers value to the platform, and that it's properly categorized. But I can certainly understand your concerns....

7:37pm • #92
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Karen:  You can access all the communities/neighborhoods yourself on Localism. Just go to a particular city, and over to the right is a link that says "Browse Neighborhoods"

7:39pm • #93
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Gracious Rich...

I'm parking and have my buttered popcorn along with a beer :)

This is all going to be very interesting.

TLW...ROAR!

7:41pm • #94
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Rich,

Just running through these quickly...there are many error's here.  I only highlighted the ones that I knew were blatantly not in Coral Springs, however with a little coaxing, I could get back to you on the rest...most of the unhighlighted ones are either in Coral Springs or Margate (another city).

Scott Daniels area is Cooper City.

OK, I highlighted them in red in my word, however the red didn't come over, however, see the comments.

This has huge discrepancies.

7:44pm • #95
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I like the new Localism look, and if it brings consumers and real estate professionals together, I will love the opportunities that presents.

7:45pm • #96
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Rich,

I corrected a typo on this:  New Art gallery in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, over 30 minutes ago and it did not correct the error.

I did tell Bob S. about this over a week ago and he was going to check into it for me, I'm sure he did, however, it's not fixed.

UPDATE: I don't know if you corrected it for me or if it worked, however, It took an hour for it to update...so it did, thank you.

7:46pm • #97
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Rich: Nevermind, I get it. Sorry if I was being the devil's advocate or something else for that matter. I really do want to see this succeed for everyone. Thank you for all your efforts.

7:46pm • #98
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Debbie:  We want to address any and all concerns. Never feel sorry for bringing a concern to our attention.

7:47pm • #99
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Lane: Lilburn is what, 11M maybe 12M population? So it would qualify as being available for sponsorship. Then, it would simply be a matter of what other larger developments within Lilburn would warrant and support a sponsorship.

7:50pm • #100
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Rich, I have asked a few times but am still confused--maybe you can clear up my questions.  Market reports will not be separate from what I'm reading, is that correct?  So my post with 10 pictures and a "tour" would be buried under market reports?

I also cover LONG ISLAND and New York City and obviously can't buy every town so how are my posts tagged correctly?  Long Island consists of many towns but it's even the name of my business...I will be looking for an answer because I haven't been clear on this at all yet.

Thank you

7:54pm • #101
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Rich, I find it difficult to reconcile that after almost a year of contributing content for Localism for Princeton, there are very few posts that show up there now. I am not sure I like to compete for the content I provided with someone else who provided much less content. I never minded paying for the platform, but the way it is configured now makes me uncomfortable. I understand the idea of being found by consumers through organic search, rather then through the Localism landing page for the community. Why then ask to pay for the community instead of the use of AR platform? Wouldn't it be simpler to charge for the use and allow everyone to compete on the merit of their content.

The second issue is the July 31st date. I have closings, does that mean that I wouldn't have a chance to pay for the community I worked so hard to create valuable content for? The marketing concept of building up anticipation and demand for the July 31 sale is understandable, but not the logistics. Thanks in advance for your response on or OFTB.

8:04pm • #102
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Rich,

Here's what I see when I go to browse Fort Lauderdale:

About Fort Lauderdale's Ft Lauderdale

<script type="text/javascript"></script>

ActiveRain Corp. is not responsible for the accuracy of the site's content (which is written by members of the ActiveRain Real Estate Network) and does not endorse the views of the real estate agents, mortgage brokers, and others listed here.

Powered by the ActiveRain Real Estate Network

© 2008 ActiveRain Corp. All Rights Reserved

<script type="text/javascript"></script>

PlusMap of Ft Lauderdale

<script type="text/javascript"></script> Terms of Use
 

and a map of half the world...

8:08pm • #103
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Honestly, I'll have to do much more reading before properly weighing in.  I've learned to become a Google sort of guy so the idiosyncrasies of everything else fail to stand out as immediate issues ... though they just might be.

One thing in this post stood out for me.  It was the following remark by you, Rich ... "We're either the best thing since sliced bread or the Anti-Christ."  Honestly, I learned awhile back through my dealings in the Professional Wrestling Biz & certain parts of Pennsylvania, that more times that not, the either/or mentality of spectators is good for business.  Whether they love you or loathe you, if they are talking ... that's probably more business for you.  That psychology may not translate well into the professional world of something as crucial to our economy as Real Estate, especially now, but I'm quasi-sure it's still relevant.

Very interesting discussion and I challenge anyone to truly attest that AR doesn't present most viewpoints from a variety of members of the community ... in the form of recognition.  Hell, you want to spin the web of fair and balanced ... this forum beats anything I've read or saw.   In my opinion, this forum does well because it doesn't hide behind anything other than the views of the mass of contributors who made it.  Sometimes those views are positive, sometimes not, but more time than not ... all sides are addressed & given breath.

As far as this localism debacle, I don't know, I guess I'll have to write something that's ... perhaps local, to find out:-)

9:13pm • #104
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Rich,

I did exactly what you told me to do and that was what was on that page here.  Nothing. and a map of half the world...

Maybe it's a server issue...or something. 

Thanks for the list.  Karen

9:40pm • #106
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Rich,

Here are more issues to your response to me...

Karen:  Not sure where exactly you're looking. Here are the neighborhoods/communities directly fron the Ft. Lauderdale page:

07/29/2008 09:19 PM

by Rich Jacobson ~ ActiveRain Community Builder

9:47pm • #107

I thank you for your post.  I am looking forward to Localism.  Counting the days...

9:51pm • #108
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I guess they will go unanswered-- again.  When the Localism "rush" is over maybe you can get a minute to let me know as I believe I add quality Localism posts as well as the many others who aren't sure how to tag either.  Thank you.

9:52pm • #109
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This is not long compared to the tomes we've done, and I will read it.

Here's the do-list.

Get Brad to help us w/ Mixpo.
Get you to help us w/ new localism, which I suspect this does.
Make sure we're signed up with all relevant social networks (donno who the guide will be here)
Re-do our main blog cosmetics (is this Mark? or RE tomato).
Update all area major market reports, and those for each of our 35 neighborhoods. (Just need time here)
And learnd this damn new iPhone each of us got today.
And then learn how to attract international re investors better (from a lunch we had today w/ Murray Consulting, ie Real Trends)

You notice there's not real estate here, not much anyway. Gary's doing all of that.

Whew!

10:11pm • #110
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First of all let me say that I think new localism is way better than old localism. It clearly has teething problems however and it is difficult to get answers. I understand that completely. But let me give you an example of how weird things can get. I was the number two in a neighborhood. I then had a blog featured in that neighborhood and now I'm not a neighborhood partner at all there. Clearly an issue.

10:22pm • #111
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Rich - Thanks for the post, and thanks to all for your comments it has been an educational journey (I think I just spent an hour bouncing back and forth reading them all. Rich - What you are trying to do is just a little mind boggling but I trust you will address the issues and it will work for all who are willing to work for it.

As I read the comments two sayings kept popping into my mind

You can please some of the people some of the time

But not all of the people all of the time

 

There is nothing in life that is fair

 

The older we get the more stuck in our ways we become some to the point where any change is hard to accept. I trust that in the end this community will come together and come out of this unified and stronger.

 

10:54pm • #112

Thanks for the email and your suggestions about sponsoring a community.  I am a property owner and one of the chief listing agents for a lakefront resort community in Sandpoint, Idaho.  So how do I go about setting up this sponsorship?

Rick Evans
11:08pm • #113
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Rich,.....thanks for indepth post that answers quite a few questions and raises further questions.  For me it will be a wait and see and them maybe some questions.  For now I have more answers thank questions.  Thanks again.

11:23pm • #114
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Thanks Rich for this recap about Localism and how it's developing.  I'm still not sure how it will play out but am interested to see what happens after Thursday.  One thing I can't seem to find out is why are my photos in Localism so distorted?  None of my photos are displayed the way they were on my A/R posts.  Any tips for me on how to fix this?

11:34pm • #115
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Rich,

Thanks for the explanation of what's going on.  I've been out of the rain for awhile getting established in a new office and I was wondering what was going on. 

 Oh, how upsetting...I just went to Localism to check it out.  I have contributed so much over the past few years and another agent who I guess is paying for the spot...I'm not sure is the only person who comes up with his blog.  I almost started to cry.  What have you done?

12:02am • #116
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Rich,

Thanks for the updated information.  I like the new look of Localism.

12:17am • #117
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I've been told that I need to 'edit and repost' my old localism posts so that they show up...any hint on how you all want us to do that?

Are we deleting and reposting?

Also, stuff that was 'featured' on localism at one point should we bother to repost it if it was 'real estate related'?

12:32am • #118
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And do you all want to know if there are people posting plagiarized content still? 

12:35am • #119
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Rich,

I have been so busy have not got my new computer in. Setting on the floor. Localism seems to really be slow to navigate with the current one. Can I post pictures again yet.

1:05am • #120
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Rich

Beautifully written and most reassuring.  Thank you for easing many a troubled mind over the new changes.  I am optimistic that the new localism will be mutually beneficial to both the Members and AR collectively.  Thumbs up!

5:39am • #121

I'm looking forward to learning the new localism and drilling down deeper in my back yard.

6:09am • #122
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HI RICH!

First, your post wasn't that long!  Second, glad you cleared the air, at least for me!!

Have a good one,

6:22am • #123
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Rich, I just hope that the long term outcome will in fact be equitable to all.

7:12am • #124
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Rich it will be interesting to see how everything shakes out with the new localism. i don't envy you guys as there seems to be so many complaints to deal with. I am sure in the end you guys will get it all figured aout and it will be terrific just like AR is.

7:29am • #125
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Gracious...

Now may I suggest you announce it and perhaps let the Members know it's not about them or their questions. They have a group for that.

The Group needs to remain a resource for anyone trying to figure out "The New Localism". Member's can pose their questions on the Blogs that are already part of the Group. To insure that happens one of you Guys needs to go in and click "Member Can't Post" as the Members start to join.

What say you? :)

TLW...ROAR!

9:23am • #126
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Still hanging out...  There are still some things which we need to get answers to... and some things that can't be answered until after the sponsorships are in place. 

9:46am • #127
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Rich, I normally do not bookmark my pages but I did this one so I can go back and review it from time to time. Great information thanks for sharing.

10:01am • #128
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Rich - wow, you WERE chatty weren't you?!

Seriously, this is great stuff. A terrific overview of the vision and philosophy of the new playing field and how we can best make use of it. I'm sure there will be some issues as there always are, but as in the past AR will work through them, listening to members concerns and suggestions, and finding the best path for us to follow. It seems there are issue with how things are showing up, or not showing up, and the question of reposting still seems unclear. I assume this means just go back and redo the Localism groups for the article to put it where it should be, and not delete and redo the article since it stlil exists on AR (and perhaps a few tweaks to add more keywords, etc.).

Jeff

10:13am • #129
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TLW ....done.  Thanks for the helpful suggestion...

10:16am • #130
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Thanks so much for this post, Rich, it does explain a lot.

10:40am • #131
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Rich...  Thanks, I read that in the post, I'm not trying to be difficult.  I guess I just don't understand "yet" what the editors are looking for, I'll keep trying.

10:46am • #132
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Brilliant!  (You and ActiveRain) - I had no idea what I was signing up for when I joined ActiveRain, and it has done nothing but benefit me.  'Guess that means I need to trust the ActiveRain gurus and not second-guess them.

11:27am • #133
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I am a bit sad because I was getting a two for one special before; blog on AR get high ranking there and on localism.  I guess I will just have to work a little harder, as a lazy man that just does not sound fun.

12:12pm • #134
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Rich,  Bob just answered my question about the 'green living' on his post and I'm happy now.  I still am confused about content that is currently on localism and about what is 'acceptable', but I'm thinking that can probably only be answered in time. 

For those of you that are still ticked about communities and do niche marketing, think outside the box.  Condo Living, Pets, Waterfront living, etc.  Bob in his post is sponsoring a football stadium for football fanatics and tailgate parties. 

For about 3 weeks now this was my biggest concern.  SOOOO, glad that it was answered.

12:39pm • #135

Rich, I have had too much reading for one day.  My eyes are tired.  AJ

12:43pm • #136
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Spokane Washington Real Estate Expert Well, I have to disagree with the direction of sponsored experts. As you said the old system put you as a top agent if you earned the most points in the prospective neighborhood. This was the right thing to do. You can't build a community on a point system then take away the rewards of the hard work you used to give.

That is like saying if a team wins the most games by putting the most points on the board at the end you will sell the trophy to whoever buys it first. Active rain isn't about a platform, that can be duplicated, it is about the people period! and the great success is that point system that encourages people to put good content in the system. But I don't care about points just for the sake of saying I'm the top guy to other Realtors, Showing up in the public view as top makes the work worth it.

Localism didn't get much traffic but I was the top local expert, the revamp should have been to get more traffic so the agents who earned their spot would get more value. Now the site has gone way down in value because my points don't matter. You guys are missing the mechanics of what made AR successful and the further you get away from it the worse you will be.

If you forget where you came from you are on your way back.

1:15pm • #137
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Since way back when I've loved Localism. Queen of the contents of my own closet, the only way I can describe it.

Never mind that few consumers ever found their way there.  EVERY lead I've ever had from A.R. has been directly from localism. I've been to busy to explore the new localism since it's changed. But I'll manage and if everyone else were smart about it they will too.

6:23pm • #138
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I do believe you did a great job on this Rich...and no matter what...it's nice to see the opinions of all and your giving sound feedback. I appreciated it. :)

And I'm with Steph...the communities have no limit. Once it was explained to me... instead of beating around the bush and expecting me to read minds :) then I was okay. There has to be some sort of light at the end of the tunnel...otherwise, how are we ....as members supposed to promote or agree with it?

 

The light....patience....being creative and using the platform for our own niche in the community...is a grand thing. :)

9:06pm • #139
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Ross: Ultimately, the points don't matter. In as far as your involvement here on ActiveRain and the articles that you've published to Localism have earned you points, they were conceived to generate friendly competition and spur participation. And yes, with the old Localism, your points allowed you to gain a visual prominence in your area. However, what truly drives your level of success here is the quality and consistency of your content. Good relevant local content that offers valued information and resources to consumers rules the day. That is what will attract consumers to your blog, and eventually translates into business. The New Localism will offer the same, if not greater amount of exposure for you, but it's the value of your content that will engage readers.

Just for the record....Sponsorship doesn't assume or infer expert anything. When someone sponsors a neighborhood, community, city, etc., it simply affords them some additional exposure on the respective page for that neighborhood/community. The sponsored content of Localism will constitute less than 5% of the total platform. What you do with the remaining 95% is up to you.

10:45pm • #140
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Rich,

Did you get any sleep last night... LOL???

I just posted 3 issues to Bob's blog about the Localism issues, not his current post but the one before it.  It is just for issues relating to Localism... Seriously though...

This is what has me the most upset...when you make changes, such as changing a post to a "member's only", they are not coming back off of Localism.  This need's to work...especially when a benign blog...goes "postal"...

And a few other uploading issues... It's at least a hour, not 30 minutes for a post to show up.  I posted a listing to AR and sent it to Localism as well over an hour ago...and it's still not there on my site...and the updates as posted to Bob's post did not correct either.

 

10:54pm • #141
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2008
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Ya know Rich, the sad part is... I can only IMAGINE the amount of time, effort, money, planning, programming, and endless hours is must have taken to folkes, to ENVISION, START, CREATE, INSPIRE, FERTILIZE, FLOURISH this WHOLE concept.  It takes off, SO MANY people reap the benefits, and then get upset because your vision goes further and you deserve some money in return?  

That is just selfish for ANYONE to think this is UNFAIR to start charging for sponsored communities, when it has been a priceless resource, advantage, and amazing SEO tool for everyone!

Perhaps people should be weighing their results from participation in A.R. and the shifting money from something that DOESN'T work (like a full color page ad), to something that has proven over and over again to work with amazing results.

Katrina in Tampa

2:43am • #142
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Katrina: I'm not going to deny that's it's been somewhat disheartening and frustrating to hear so much complaining, especially given the fact that Localism is still in private BETA form, and will obviously require some tweaking as we go. ActiveRain itself went through many changes/revisions when it was first launched, and we all survived just fine. Many of our member's have invested a significant amount of time and energy into Localism. Their concerns are certainly understandable, and need to be addressed. However, I think some people are focusing too much on peripheral issues, and not allowing themselves to see the larger vision. Hopefully, as we move forward, this vision will become more evident.

3:27am • #143
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Rich, I just spent ½ an hour trying to get a grasp on your post and all the responses!  I understand that some who have invested time in Localism may be concerned but am I incorrect in that someone can pay to sponsor an area BUT if someone else adds content videos, images etc. they will also get their share of exposure? 

Raleigh Realtor - Pamela St. Peter

 

9:38am • #144
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great talking to you. but this post was good enough for me to finally understand it. wasn't as far behind as I thought. very helpful.

 

6:20pm • #145
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01
2008
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Food for thought: AR is about us, about real estate and consumers are a part of that. Localism is about our communities.  So if we focus on helping those in our communities become a part of localism, isn't it possible it will turn into something that makes them money as well? Then we have the best of both worlds and everyone is happy.  Good things will come back to us and I'm not speaking in platitudes, it really happens.

12:40am • #146

Thanks. Bieng new to Active Rain. I really had no idea what Laocalism was all about anyway. So I am excited adn understand it alittle better thanks to you...Lucky for me I was on here early this morning and could sponser my city before I really knew what I was doing. Hmmm sometimes it pays to live in a small town.

3:01pm • #147
AUG
03
2008

Rich,

I think the key phrase from your blog was this... "Those who achieve the greatest success with Localism will be those who consistently write/publish helpful, practical, informative articles for consumers, period. There are no shortcuts to that process. True success at blogging takes time, effort, and commitment."

I bet there are folks that are chomping on the bit to get their neighborhood, city or community and think that "buying into Localism" is a key to instant sucess.  NOT!!

The folks that will have the greatest sucess will get up from in front of their computers and take their notepads & cameras and go out and interact with their communities. 

Simply put, this is not Netpaying or Netsitting it is Networking!  If you are willing to engage your community and effectively write about it, AR's platform will help Google find you! 

By the way, Good Job!!

11:09pm • #148
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2009
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I am not sure about these changes and am still getting my head around them.  However, my page has not changed.  They put up pictures from a neighborhood in Southern California (Brentwood) with the same name as my city in Northern California.  Southern California is of OJ Fame, but is not us.  I have offered to do other pictures for them without a response.

11:47am • #149
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2010
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Changing anything without thought, consideration and input from the players before the changes can lead to a poor sour taste in a previously harmonious relationship that was fun, easy, simple and not complicated. No one likes to be spun. Watching the propaganda orchestration is tedious.

12:19pm • #150
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Interesting comment, Andrew. Care to illuminate?

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