I was reading the editorial section of the Sunday newspaper that I do with religious regularity and someone wrote in about an idea that makes so much sense.

Some consumers out there just have so much to share when they express their ideas and it can really make quite a difference, especially if the idea makes good financial sense.

The idea actually for this editorial came from the city of Berkeley California that has proposed setting up a program that creates superb possibilities and answers two of the biggest problems for consumers to be able to afford solar energy at their own homes.

Problem #1 - High initial solar panel purchasing and installation costs

Problem #2 - Recovering the cost of providing solar when selling the home

Berkeley's plan overcomes both problems for the homeowners in one rather remarkable solution and it involves selling bonds for revenue used for purchasing of the solar systems and also a shared part of the installation costs. The homeowner only pays a shared portion of the costs for installation. The city would recover its investment and also recover its costs with an assessment over 20 years on the property tax bills. It ends up costing the city virtually nothing as the annualized cost of its share of the installation costs is more than offset with energy output savings.

As you can see, both problems are solved for the consumer in one "WOW" solution-and then only a shared cost for the installation and also saving more on energy costs the first year than the installation costs. So even during year one, the consumer would enjoy the energy savings while offsetting the increased property tax of paying back their share of the bond and interest costs paid by the city.

Problem two is solved as well and the solar addition to the home may actually become an asset of the property in making it more of a standout for desirability with decidedly reduced energy costs.

I know that if San Diego were to ever set up a program like this, I would want to be first in line to have solar. Can you even begin to imagine what it would like across the entire country if every city could do this? Talk about going green, this would be a giant leap. My belief is that if Berkley can do this , then we should all be encouraging our own cities to consider this option.

The consumer who posted this editorial and is making others aware of this wonderful idea is truly an asset to our community. With all the talk of going green and the expense of it, this sounds like a workable plan and harkens back to the idea " If there is a will, then there is away".

I will update this post when the city of Berkley announces final passage of the proposal expected sometime in September.

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34 Comments on A "WOW" Idea For Making Solar Energy Actually Affordable For Homeowners

JUL
28
2008
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This is absolutely fabulous.  This works just like a "front foot benefit" bond repayment.  We have them here to pay for municipal installation of water and sewer hook-ups.  It's paid off over 23 years and the unpaid balance is assumed by any subsequent purchasers. 

Great plan. 

4:45pm • #1

Great Idea...can we start a movement?

I have a large wholesaler friend in Solar and he is having a terrible time getting PV panels. It seems demand is so high in Europe and with the euro exchange rate where it is....he just can't get any product volume.This is predicted to clear up bu next spring but not if we can get municipalities to understand and contribute. The trouble in our county is of course as with most, the are not fiscally solvent.

4:47pm • #2
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This is an awesome idea and it seems it should be a great fit for any of the states that get lot of sunshine and as costs come down others as well.

4:55pm • #3
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Hi Lenn, I thought this was so cool too! Just goes to show you, that there are real leaders out there and somehow we need to get them heard. Could you even imagine if the whole country went solar and the energy savings would be amazing. Naturally it would take some time, but who wouldn't be in favor. Those on a budget that don't even have the shared installation costs, there I have heard there are potentially billions in available grants and Mr. Pickens with his wind idea, I would bet would be first in line to help offset some of the production costs. There are plenty of benefactors out there and in time, it would be so totally awesome to have cut our oil consumption. BTW, have you even seen how they use the cells on a car. I saw a picture of it and it is not that bad, so there could be some other savings. All in all, this really excited me as a possibility. I suppose it is more difficult than it sounds to get these bonds underwritten, but for the first few years, it could make quite an impact.

 

PS, I love not to have write all these stupid words for verification, don't you? The single best improvement to date on ActiveRain. Love it!

5:06pm • #4
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Hi Karl, Sounds like we need to rev up production for use in this country. Someone just suggested a movement. I wonder why Berkley's idea got so little press that I had never heard of it. I sure like my post on the free Google-411, someone probably posted about this. Well, if they did, here it is again,lol.

5:08pm • #5
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William.  I suspect that the best place to migrate to solar is with new construction.  Installation at the design stage is surely far less expensive than retrofitting.  The cost would be significant though and if it, like water and sewer could be amortized over 23 years, as is our FFB fees, it would work.

I noticed that something was different, but didn't notice what.

 

5:10pm • #6
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Do we have cloudy states? , LOL. I understand perfectly what you mean. And the sun does come out everywhere at least once in a while, :-)

5:12pm • #7
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William, I agree shared cost models are an excellent solution for something like this if they can be implemented.

5:24pm • #8
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Hi Lenn, I know that what you are saying also makes sense. We could have two sets of programs. New Homes and Resales. Builders already do bonds here in California, called Mello Roos Districts for creating new infrastructure of schools, streets and lighting, recreation ,etc. I have one on my home and it adds about $1000 a year over and above my property taxes. Buyers don't like them much. But in California, it is a reality found in many areas of newer communities or at least new subdivisions where there is not currently enough facilities to accommodate. Solar could make all this a something for something. As far as I know, the only thing bond does for me is to make my home more valuable to buyers should I ever sell. But no complaints. But I would do another for the solar. Air conditioning and in the winter the heating bills are outrageous. We don't go below about 36 degrees  over much over the high 90's in the summer. I live about 10 miles inland now and not coastal so the utilities are much higher.

6:08pm • #9
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Hi Gary, it sure would be a neat idea here in Californian, if not everywhere. It does seem a bit simplistic in my description but it just seems to make so much sense.

6:09pm • #10
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William,
What a wonderful idea and plan.  I sure hope many cities and states jump on board with their plan.  Just think of the savings!!

7:10pm • #11
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Hi Cynthia, I mind jumped right on this when I heard of it. Surely, wouldn't you think other cities would come up with such a plan.

7:12pm • #12
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There are an aweful lot of roofs that get sun exposure every day - I cannot even image how much power is available and just wasted.

Oil is $125 per barrel, and has been higher. Nuclear construction costs big. Off shore drilling is a long way off from producing useable products, if allowed. We are dependent on our enemies for our fuel.

Can we not find a way to use the clean renewable energy that shines on all our roofs everyday?

Richard

 

 

9:14pm • #13
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Richard

I really like the looks

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tOMMY

9:55pm • #14
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William...soooo how do we get this noticed...any ideas?

Hey...we don't have to do a secret word anymore!

10:10pm • #15
JUL
29
2008
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Hi Richard. Maybe this idea will take off. If the cities were made aware, or surely they must know? I guess REALTORS could do a lot by suggesting the idea to the cities, most of the time, they actually like us, :-)and usually listen.

12:04am • #16
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Hi Tom- Thank You! I always appreciate it when you drop by and this proposal might work for others and wouldn't it be neat if it could be embraced around the country, if for not other reason than we would waste less and produce more. That sounds like a good recipe for for smart living.

12:11am • #17
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Hi Joan, I guess we will all just have to tell people to check with Berkley and see if the idea will work with them. Sounds like there would be a run on solar if it did but that should also encourage others to get into the manufacturing side and in use some of the old defunct auto plants, they could convert them from empty to manufacturing. Sounds like a win win doesn't it? If the media could re-focus and  embrace the positive for a change and help people learn about what could help us all , then it could catch on. Imagine the job possibilities. I guess my imagination is not quite as jaded as some other's who might oppose. They might ask why, and I would answer, why not?

12:18am • #18
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I think you need to enter the Presidential race :)  If it's one thing I am adamant about ...is finding alternatives such as solar to reduce our energy costs. Can you even imagine why we would have such high costs? I mean, we're in year round sunshine.

11:33am • #19
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Woo Hoo, Someone suggested that I sound like an Eco Broker. I am not.  I just believe we should all try to use some common sense. With energy costs going trough the roof and with the technology already out there, the obstacle has been price. Now this Berkeley idea I have presented here may not be the total answer but it might lead to one. If our cities could find ways to help, I suspect there are a lot of consumers that would like to save on some of the ever expanding energy costs. And if in the longer term more and more have affordable solution options, we could begin the conversion of solar for the whole country. It may even sound a bit pie in the sky but so did landing on the moon and space research. It just takes resolve and a willing to share ideas. I think we have the genius to solve most of our problems but it sometime requires a leap of faith and a willingness to try.

I loved not having to to type the graphic word and I see the experiment not to have to is over already. I loved being able to hit the submit button with out it. I thought it was the best improvement AR had ever made only to discover, it was a temporary aberration.LOL.

12:49pm • #20
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Wow is right. I think something like this might even work up here in the rainy Northwest. Keep us posted if you find out more. Maybe I should check on it, since Eugene has often been called Berkley North.

12:50pm • #21
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Hi Fred, I will do that. I have thought so much about this and the more I think on it the more sense it seems to make. I never thought of any particular city of leading the way on this but Berkley's plan certainly impresses me.

 

PS, Am I going crazy here? Earlier the Graphic word was required again and on this response it isn't ??

1:04pm • #22
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No, not going crazy. It was but now it isn't and may be again. Who can fathom the depths of the great programmers brain. Of course, you could still be going crazy. :-D

3:04pm • #23
JUL
30
2008
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William, This is a fantastic idea and I too would be in line to get one.  Someone in one of our communites here on Long Island is actually fighting their town to get solar panels installed--the village won't allow it because it will "ruin the appearance of the neighborhood."  I couldn't believe it!

5:28pm • #25
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Hi Carole, Well, that will spawn the " I design solar for homes " cottage industry,lol . I am not really surprised at hearing that. What would be a better solution anyway would new roofing material that is photovoltaic cell active, the cells would become an integral part of the design. Then make it a mandatory part of building and when putting on new roofing. All the credits could accumulate thus causing homeowners not additional outlays for roof repair or redesign.

9:32pm • #26
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04
2008

Leave it to Berkely to think outside the box.  It always amazes me that we here in SoCal do not make more use of solar power, we have nothing but sunshine most of the year!!  I would be in everyones best interest to make alternative energy sources more affordable.  Well, everyone but those in the oil and gas industries, I imagine!

12:49am • #27
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Hi Carol, Thanks for dropping by and enhancing this post. We could all do a better job when it comes to renewable resources and in time I think more and more will see the wisdom in this. Look Pickens, the Oil Barron, he is changing to renewable for investing. It will catch on , especially if local government can help make it all possible.

1:28am • #28

William- if we had addressed this, and continued to address this since the oil embargo of the '70's, we wouldn't be where we are today.  (Can you tell I feel strongly about this?  I mean, I drive a Honda with over 100K miles on it!!)

10:20am • #29
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I guess the old adage of " Follow the Money" seems to be about the only way to explain this. Thinking we should've, would've, could've tells us where we have been but gives no indication where we are heading. The 2nd thing that comes to mind, is that " he who has the Gold sets the rules". Clearly we seem not to be in possession of the Gold anymore so we will once again be vulnerable to those that do  have it. As optimistic as I remain, the change will be slow and not easy to accomplish. But moving forward with renewables is the only viable long term option.

10:27am • #30
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William-That is a fantastic idea, and I would think California would be ALL over that idea, wouldn't you?  What do you think the odds are of that taking off? 

4:54pm • #31
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Hi Elizabeth, From what I can gather, San Diego would have difficulty because they had some investigations that messed up their credit ratings on bonds. It is getting straightened out however and the ratings are returning but they have so many priorities that this idea will take years to get implemented. It is hopeful for the future however. But certainly other major areas should be looking into this and getting similar programs underway. I suspect a number will be.

5:04pm • #32
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This certainly does seem like a WOW idea.  I have always been a big proponent of solar, but the price has always been the stumbling block.  Usually something is expensive in the beginning, then over time drops, but solar has remained high and has yet to drop in cost.  Maybe something like this can be the catalyst.

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9:37pm • #33
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06
2008
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When I discovered this Ron, I was very excited to share this  as it just seemed to make such good common sense.

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