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Barack vs John...based on their Astrological charts...who do you choose?

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Real Estate Agent with Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach

Barack Obama was born August 4, 1961... John McCain was born August 29, 1936...

Barack:

August 4th people are clever, guick, and elusive, those are their strengths...their weaknesses are that they are oblivious, hot-headed and undiplomatic... Those born on this day turn a deaf ear to warning's of all types. They revolt against established systems. They pose themselves to feel free to speak, however, they do as they wish. They are quick and clever...they hate being ignored by those closest to them. People born on this day tend to be difficult and argumentative. They are unpredictable in their actions. Their unfavorable characteristics are stubborness, tyranny and possibly brutaility...this is something that they hate seeing in others. These people tend not to listen to others. They hate and dislike other authority. Geeze, now this is a little scary.

John:

Is adaptive, imaginative, and structured. These people born on this day hate chaos. These leader's seek to bring structure and clarity to their job. These people are solution oriented. They are positive thinkers...they look to the future. They love an affectionate mate. They are great at improv! They have great qualities such as intuition and discretion.

I love Astrology and have a large library of book's on this topic.

These are my opinion's on these two.

Who do you choose?

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Comments(129)

Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

Exactly Chris.

Looking up you 2 right now.

 

Aug 04, 2008 02:44 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

So Chris,

Here you go....

Your strengths are:  ambitious, tradition-loving, radical

Weaknesses: unsympathetic, repressed, overcompetitive

best: friendship

worst: family

So here it goes:

The focus is a mix of conservative and radical viewpoints.  You both value traditions, and you both look forward in life.  Aquarious/Picses people ar etough on the outside, however hyper-sensitive on the inside. You both have lot's to teach each other about emotion, however the repressed feelings are there.

Marriages and family relationships suffer when Ashlee will have to shoulder crushing domestic burdens.  It's better for work.

It's a Michael Jordon, Magic Johnson match...

Just for a little info...my exfiance (who I was with for 10 years) screwed me over... Pisces...takes over...they are usually directed in the wrong way when thing's aren't going well or doing great when they are.

For us, the best is a Sag.  they understand us.

The advice is" Show sympathy and understanding toward each other. Dig for emotional support.

I was with my ex who is a Pisces for 10 years...he asked me to marry him (finally) moved me from PA to FL and the rest need's to be a private email...as well as we love and want these people to love us...an Aries or a Sag...it so much better...and again...this is just my opinion.

You are so smart...differing view's are great and I love the conversation. As I said, my best friend was 8/16....we are both true, I repeat, true Leo's...I knew that from your first post!   (((hugs))) my friend.

I wasted 10 years on a Pisces...I can only imagine the conversations. K

Aug 04, 2008 03:02 PM
NJ (Nori) Bosley
*TBD* - Madison-on-the-Lake, OH
Geeeeeez, I'm so old I can't even remember who was the first presidential candidate I voted for?? *lmao*
Aug 04, 2008 03:25 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

LMAOROF me either...who was pres in 1978...I'm thinking Reagan was soon...

I do know that I stayed in President Nixon's summer home while in college in 1977 (my professor took us there and they were friends)...slept in his family room here in Florida...amazing...great time...that was then, this is now.

Aug 04, 2008 03:30 PM
NJ (Nori) Bosley
*TBD* - Madison-on-the-Lake, OH
Karen, My best match would be a Leo? I'm a Sag. Hmmmmmmmmmm? Currently split from my Leo husband but still live in the same house (split the marriage 3 years ago) but the friendship we have is great and together we are raising the 3 year old grandson. Explain that??? Are Sags just suckers for nuturing and raising children and spouses?? *lol*
Aug 04, 2008 03:35 PM
NJ (Nori) Bosley
*TBD* - Madison-on-the-Lake, OH
I turned 18 December 1979. I have no friggin idea, I was busy with a baby. *lol*
Aug 04, 2008 03:42 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

Tell me both of your birthday's and I'll let you know. 

Usuallly Leo's and Sag's are inseparable...Oh yes..you're still in the same house...got cha...Birthday's..

Sag, just love's ya...but send me Birth dates.

Aug 04, 2008 03:42 PM
NJ (Nori) Bosley
*TBD* - Madison-on-the-Lake, OH
Me december 10. Him august 2
Aug 04, 2008 03:47 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

OK, will get back to you in a few...NJ...my friend! Geeze Louise, why can't I just go to bed???

I'll do the chart...give me a few.

Aug 04, 2008 03:50 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

OK, here is what I think:

 August 2nd is the week of authority... December 10th is the week of the Originator...

Your strengths are: energetic, supportive, idealistic

Weaknesses are: rebellious, immature, attention-hungry

best is being siblings

worst is marriage.

You two compete with each other. Leo's are calming, you are inspiring.

Love affair's are idealistic, yet selfish.You both need attention.

Marriage is not recommended. It is a b/c a mutual maturity is not there. No balance.

Friendship is there. Family is inspiring. Not sure that this is any better than a great friendship where you both will take care of each other.   You will probably be able to work together for a common goal and be great negotiators....with management... JMHO...not an expert...just what the chart's say.

Constructive goals...is what you two are about.

Just an opinion.

Aug 04, 2008 04:12 PM
Chris Horton
Horton's Lawn Care L.L.C. - Burton, MI

Karen- There is that dangerous word Radical LOL (hey if its a strenght of mine why is it a bad thing Obama was mixed up possibly with a few radicals in his earlier days? LOL) I must admit it is 100% true on the overcompetitive, however I am very sympathetic (especially when it comes to elders). I am great with and will do pretty much anything for my friends, but I am not to much into the majority of my family. (I actually hardly ever even go to any family gatherings, unless I have them at my place.. ie, Christmas because no one else has a big enough place to have everyone, and the 4th of July because fireworks look great when I shoot them over my pond (darn it another I can't be president confession, I enjoy illegal fireworks) lol).

She has alot to teach me about emotions (she shows hers quite well lol), as I am not and have never been one of much emotion really. (So much to the point I have been called a heartless bast***... also I have been to far to many funerals to count (probably near 100 just since I was 12... big family with many family friends, and several of my friends have also passed/killed), and I have never shed a single tear :-\... in my own defense though when one of my uncles whom I was extremely close to passed away (cancer) when I was 11 and took it very rough my grandmother explained death to me and I realized it is actually a good thing because when people pass away they don't feel pain, they don't have diseases, and they are in a better place).

Your ex sounds like a darned fool! Unfortunatly for him and great for you though you seem to be doing very good for yourself :-D. Luckily for me, I don't have to worry about her taking over... I gave her control along time ago, but when things don't go the way I want I change it or adapt if its nothing major (like her cooking a different side with dinner than I would have prefered, oh well potatoes are fine tonight I guess LOL)

While I respect your opinion, and experience I think me and Ashlee will be just fine :-D. (Besides being together for 3 and a half years we have been friends for almost 10 years now... I actually met her when I was dating one of her friends' sisters back then lol).

 

Aug 04, 2008 04:18 PM
NJ (Nori) Bosley
*TBD* - Madison-on-the-Lake, OH
Karen, Wow, if that doesn't describe us, I don't know what does. That's amazing. Thanks !!! Think I'll hit the sheets, the little one will be up bright and early. Get some sleep g/f. Nite
Aug 04, 2008 04:21 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

Chris,

I thought my best friend(loved each other on site in 1980, however were married to spouses-it was the look), who asked me to marry him just a few month's before I found out he got some other woman pregnant...Moved me to FL..left me and went back to here...gave the kid to a friend who couldn't have kid's...so he say's...I took care of him for years...now he's legally blind...God work's in strange ways....I thought we would be together forever...

We've loved each other for over 30 years. Both of our parent's don't want us to be together so...we've tried others...He was here in Florida and he said to me...You know I will alway's trust and love you...I said...I know...if you need me...I'm here...gorgeous guy, now blind...trying to maintain his current relationship...

Even as bad as it was....I would alway's help him.

yup...I'm a nice person.

Good luck, and I hope everything work's out. 

 

Aug 04, 2008 04:30 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

Chris,

Don't give me that BS that you don't feel the pain of someone passing...You just deal with it on your own terms and while you are alone...It doesn't have to be in the form of tear's...but you do deal with it in your own way.  I'm sure of that since I've read you here.

I think that you are afraid to let your emotion's known, which is why your GF tells you what she does.

My take on you...and you know I have children your age is that you have been hurt...or better yet have not had the love, the hugs, the emotional support that a child needs to cultivate a loving relationship later in life...You are so afraid that someone is going to hurt you again (and I think this has happened to you) that you are afraid to let Ashlee love you...(this is my youngest daughter's name too sp. Ashley) What you need to do is establish trust with someone.  Honestly, I think that you and I have somewhat established that...we can email and not talk here, however...I think honestly that you have great potential...you've just not had the loving support to make you confident enough in your relationship...You can do it...You have an edge...which is something that has come from not enough support due to your past family issues...I'm here for you...email me.

 

 

Aug 04, 2008 04:44 PM
Chris Horton
Horton's Lawn Care L.L.C. - Burton, MI

Karen- You are very nice, had I been you he wouldn't have been able to see long before God determined he wouldn't be able to!... not to mention additional kids would be out of the question and his being a male would be questionable LMAO... and yet you would still help him.

Thank you, and I hope it does too :-D

Aug 04, 2008 04:52 PM
Chris Horton
Horton's Lawn Care L.L.C. - Burton, MI

Karen- While your bottom statement is pretty much dead on (I am not afraid to let Ashlee love me, nor am I afraid to love her, and we do know eachother very well and trust eachother... I actually trust her more than she trust me, but that is for very good reasons from my past). Your begining statement actually is incorrect. While yes, I do deal with it in my own way, it is not in a sad way nor do I feel sadness or pain when someone passes. Sure I miss many of those that I have known that have passed, but I don't really feel any "pain" or sadness now or when they passed. As bad as this sounds, I am glad they are no longer with us. I am very accepting of death and welcome it. I know that when it is our time it is our time and nothing can or will change that. I actually feel death is another birth... the birth of an angel :-D

Aug 04, 2008 05:04 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

Yes, Chris, I still do...not sure why, everyone tell's me I'm stupid...he told me he loved me...when I helped him the last time...I held his hand and walked him across the street.  I  helped him get money from the ATM,,,he cannot even see to pay his check at a restaurant...he just put his money on the table and told the waitress to take what he owed and another 20%...

You know, if our parent's never got involved in our relationship we would have been happy and together...He tried to please his parents....

It's strange, he has come to visit me for my birthday since we havent' been together for the past 5 years...it's the same old, same old...we still act like the country club genre...we still are the same together as if nothing ever changed...If I was carnac...I would tell you...we'll be back together, whether he can see or not..in about 5 years... I alway's told him..."Year's from now, I'll be pushing you around in a wheel chair, and we'll be back together..." HE said he knows, as do I...after our parents aren't here...we will again love each other and take care of each  other...I know we will...

Aug 04, 2008 05:04 PM
Karen Monsour
Coldwell Banker Fort Lauderdale Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
REALTOR, SSRS - Sells FL Waterfront, Short Sale Expert!

Chris,

No, I am not wrong about that statement, you just don't want to deal with it...I too felt like you...I loved him apparently more than he loved me.

I really do not think you are as cold hearted as you say.  I think you internalize and deal with your feelings when you are alone or with someone like me who understands.  Am I right?

I think that you are very much like me...you give your heart away...you hope that you get it in return...you trust, (me, I got hurt) and well, get the edge on...

Between you and me right now, we are having a horrific storm and I get scared so I have to go...but, my friend...I'll be back tomorrow...

And don't think for one minute, I don't understand your feelings. I do...yikes...lightning bad, gotta go...

Aug 04, 2008 05:14 PM
Chris Horton
Horton's Lawn Care L.L.C. - Burton, MI

Karen- As wrong as he was, and as crazy as you may be for still loving and caring for him the way you do I am reminded of one of the greatest and most powerful mysteries we will probably ever experience in our days here... Love works in mysterious ways.

Also trust me I know about the parents thing, me and Ashlee's mother do not get along very well (to put it nicely lol). I have actually even on several occasions told Ashlee and both of her parents I do not care if she even shows up to the wedding and quite honestly I don't want her there (although lucky for her I am not selfish enough to impose an actual ban of her being there lol). However I must say, I think two are old enough to make your own decisions and tell them to butt out so you can truely be happy with eachother :-D (If nothing else just pretend you are backing McCain to them lol)

Aug 04, 2008 05:19 PM
Chris Horton
Horton's Lawn Care L.L.C. - Burton, MI

Karen- I do deal with it, just not like others. I am not a selfish person, and I feel it is selfish to mourn the loss of a loved one, especially when they were in pain or suffering in anyway while here with us. Instead I am happy for their loss, their loss of pain and suffering, their loss of having to visit doctors everytime they turn around, their loss of everything bad. I am happy they get to be with other loved ones who have before passed, and I am happy for my gain, my gain of a gaurdian angel to look over me and guide me through my life for I know they will always be by my side when I need them.

Its ok, my dog is deathly afraid of thunder so I know what your going through (except I think your out of the stage of curling up inbetween mom and dad in the middle of the night). Luckily she hasn't heard any of the thunder so far tonight. But yeah I need to go to bed tonight on account of I hardly ever sleep anymore, darn addiction to Mt. Dew and AR lol

Aug 04, 2008 05:31 PM