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Where did the 110,000.00 go?

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Real Estate Agent with Sibcy Cline Realtors®

I took a client out to view a lender owned property. As part of what I do if there is a strong interest in the property I research the history of the subject property. The previous owner had purchased the property in 1995 and had taken out a loan for 110,000.00.

A few cash out refinances later the last loan on the property was just over 170,000.00 in 2005 and that one was forclosed on.

As close as I can figure if the initial loan was held and paid in a timely manner the outstanding balance would be about 60,000.00. If someone were to ask the old owner what did you do with the 110,000.00 dollars you recieved from the refinance over the years I bet you would get this type of response.

We never got 110,000.00!!!!!

We never could have spent that much money!!!!!

What 110,000.00???????

People just need to think what they are doing when they take cash out of their home it is just like buying it again.

 

 

 

Randall Schrader
Competitive Insurance of Dundee - Dundee, FL

Wow, a foreclosure on the 1st morgage would cancel all the junior liens.  Someone took a bath on that one.

Aug 10, 2008 05:02 AM
Sacramento Grapevine
SacramentoGrapevine - Roseville, CA

When will people learn not to take out second mortgages and refinance home ????????????????????

Aug 10, 2008 05:10 AM
James Gordon
Sibcy Cline Realtors® - Cincinnati, OH
REALTOR, PBD SFR SRS

Randall this looks like it was 4 cash out refi's over the 13 year period never an equity loan. 

Aug 10, 2008 05:11 AM
James Gordon
Sibcy Cline Realtors® - Cincinnati, OH
REALTOR, PBD SFR SRS

Sindee a lot of people treat what should be one of their biggest assets as a jumbo sized piggy bank!

Aug 10, 2008 05:13 AM
Richard Mielke
RE/MAX Results - Gettysburg, PA
REALTOR, Gettysburg Pennsylvania Real Estate

Chances are that the cash out on those refinances went to pay off credit card debt.

Aug 10, 2008 05:20 AM
Robert Huntsinger
Empire Realty - Upland, CA
Empire Realty Upland, CA - Full Service at a Discount

Yup you see that all the time, in So. Cal. it is the Hummer effect, people making $40k a year driving a Hummer.  Go Figure.

Take care!

RJH

Aug 10, 2008 05:33 AM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

I know an elderly widow, who, during the frenzy of the early 2000s, was persuaded by her realtor/lender associates at that time to re-finance her home in order to buy property. She has lived in her large Victorian for over 20 years, and has built up quite an equity.

So she listened to her associates. She refinanced her home to buy a 4-plex next to her house. The following year, she re-financed again to buy a duplex.

But now, she is in default for nearly $30K. Her loan balance is $950K, but her home is now only worth $800K in the downturn. The duplex she owned is for sale for less than what she paid for. The same associates put her house on the market as a short sale, with the trustee sale looming.

Gosh....this almost smacks of elder abuse if the consequence of re-financing wasn't made clear to her. And how could lenders agree to re-finance property for someone who is in her late 70s?

Aug 10, 2008 05:36 AM
James Gordon
Sibcy Cline Realtors® - Cincinnati, OH
REALTOR, PBD SFR SRS

Pacita the other question is how prepared is a person in their 70's to start dealing with tenant problems. It is difficult enough for me at 51 let alone someone who should be enjoying their golden years.

Aug 10, 2008 05:46 AM
James Gordon
Sibcy Cline Realtors® - Cincinnati, OH
REALTOR, PBD SFR SRS

Richard to many people mortgaged their future to pay for their pleasures now.

Aug 10, 2008 05:48 AM
Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Hi James,  When you or I look at our house we see a " home " ,  when some look at their place they see an " ATM " machine !

Aug 10, 2008 05:49 AM
Jason Mitchell
Realty Executives - Scottsdale, AZ

people lived on equity in their home in AZ great way to look at it in terms of a second purchase

Aug 15, 2008 06:07 AM
Tim Ludemann
Ochopee, FL

We are the have now pay later generation.... and the pay later is due now and that is the mess we have...lesson learned until repeat in 50 yrs....

Dec 03, 2008 09:56 AM