The wave of short sales has raised an unexpected issue. In Florida, the seller of the property pays the documentary stamp tax at closing at the rate of $.70 per $100. In the brave new world of short sales the question has arisen; should Florida documentary stamp tax be paid on the amount of the purchase price being paid by the short sale buyer or on the amount of the mortgage or mortgages against the property at the time of the closing of the short sale? Since the short sale buyer is paying a purchase price that is less than the outstanding balance due on the mortgage(s), paying documentary stamp tax on the actual purchase price will result in lower revenue collections than if documentary stamp tax were paid on the amount of the mortgage balance.

The Florida Department of Revenue has acknowledged that the current statute does not provide any guidance on this issue and is contemplating whether to promulgate a rule on this issue or wait for the legislature to address it. Many title insurance companies closing short sales are already taking a conservative approach and requiring that documentary stamp tax on the full amount of the outstanding balance of the mortgage(s) be paid to avoid finding themselves short of funds if the transaction is audited and the Department of Revenue later requires payment based on the mortgage balance(s). However, some lenders are refusing to authorize payment of documentary stamp tax on the mortgage balance(s) (rather than on the short sale purchase price) until the Department of Revenue or the Florida legislature provides guidance. This is beginning to hold up the closing of many short sale transactions

 

8 Comments on Florida Documentary Stamp Tax on Short Sales: Unexpected New Issue

AUG
13
2008
1 Featured Post Outside Blog Hit Router

Don't hold our collective breaths waiting for our gov't to make a move...see how well they have done so far with the "new deal" or the "mortgage crisis bailout" plan...sorry for the cynicism but it is a little disconcerting to not have the really smart people running our government...then again we elected them...

8:36pm • #1
186,915 Points Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router

Another issue will be the newly adjusted tax base. As the sales prices decrease; the tax revenue will ultimately follow suit. Some municipalities may have been counting on a certain revenue stream to fund the infrastructure.

Everything will sort itself out.

8:42pm • #2

Michael:

Thanks for your comment - and I share your frustration. I wanted to share this information as I was very disappointed to learn of this new impediment to getting short sales completed.

Marlyn

Marlyn Wiener
8:47pm • #3
384,875 Points 23 Featured Posts Outside Blog

This is a bit surprising. I would expect that the doc stamps on the deed should reflect the transaction and have the amount stated on the deed, and this shouldn't have anything to do with the the amount of the mortgage. But this is what I think.

Let's say if this is a REO, and it is half of what the mortgage was. The Doc stamp would still be on the amount fo the transaction, not on the outstanding balance of the mortgage.

Isn't that it is based on the value of the purchase?

9:02pm • #4
AUG
14
2008

What happens when it is not a short sale & the Seller comes to closing with money to pay off the mortgage - are we going to charge on his mortgage balance too? 

Short sales are no different than any other property being sold - the banks are not accepting a huge amount under fair market value, so why should the short sale Seller be taxed any different than the person next door who sells their home for the same price.

If that is the case, then the people who don't have mortgages, shouldn't be charged doc stamps & because that property was worth $300,000 two years ago & only sold for $150,000 now, then the state should get the difference, even though no-one else does.  Only the State of Florida could come up with such a screwball idea.

Xena Vallone, Prudential Palms Realty
6:36pm • #5
384,875 Points 23 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Xena,

We haven't established that yet. Maybe this is jsut a mistake. At least it sound like a mistake. Why then call it Documentary Stamp on the Deed?

10:19pm • #6
SEP
03
2008
3 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Marlyn, yes Florida's Dept of Revenue is now calculating doc stamps on the mortgage balance. In fact, I'm currently in negotiations on one of my short sales to get the investor to pay for the difference from purchase price and mortgage balance to cover the higher calculation of doc stamps. Always something new and exciiting with a short sale!

2:56pm • #7
OCT
03
2008

My husband,and I at the time bought a house in Tallahassee Fl.We bought in 05,and since divorced,my name was never put on the morgage,but on the deed.In the settlement I was to get half of the proceeds upon the sell of the house,my ex-husband decides to short sell the house,and tells me that I wil have to pay the doc stamps in order to protect my credit .what should I do?

jay
3:09pm • #8

Leave a response…



(optional)
What does the graphic say?
 
Rainmaker_large

Marlyn Wiener

Boca Raton, FL

More about me…

Marlyn J. Wiener, P.A.

Address: 6111 Broken Sound Parkway, N.W., Suite 330, Boca Raton, FL, 33487

Office Phone: (561) 443-7124

Email Me



Links

Archives

RSS 2.0 Feed for this blog

Find FL real estate agents and Boca Raton real estate on ActiveRain.