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There seems to be a considerable amount of confusion and frustration lately over the supposed mysterious disappearance of articles being published to Localism. One minute they're there, and the next, they're gone!...Seemingly relegated to some vacuous virtual black hole in the farthest regions of the blogosphere...

Or sometimes, they don't even show up at all! We hit the 'Post Blog Entry' button, and quickly hop over to our cherished Localism community page, and we wait. And wait. But nothing.

"Where do they go?"

Is there a sudden lucrative black market for stolen articles? Is some ghost writer making a small fortune off our misfortune?

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I've covered this ground before in several previous posts, but I thought it might be helpful for some to simply rehash some of the finer points of how your content is currently being populated to Localism.

If you recall, I discussed early on some suggestions in an article entitled, "What constitutes 'approved' content for Localism?"

In addition, I touched on the processes that your articles go through after publication in the post, "Going Loco over Localism!"

Here's the process once again in a nutshell:

When you hit the 'Post Blog Entry' button for your Localism post, it can typically take 10 to 15 minutes for your article to migrate over to Localism, with the exception of those categorized as Listings or Market Reports. Currently, Listings and Market Reports are not being transferred to the relevant community pages. At some point before the Public Launch, we will be creating a 'tag/link' on the community page for 'Listings/Market Data.' This tag/link will direct you to a separate page where these articles will be populated. You can see this 'Tag/Link' concept in Jonathan Washburn's Localism Sneak Peek.

In the past, when you would categorize and publish your articles to the Old Localism, your listings would show up under 'Listings,' your market reports displayed promptly under 'Market Reports,' and depending on geographic location/topic, your posts would show up under the respective City, County, or State locations. When the site was being updated, the articles would be pushed/shifted down the page by subsequently published articles, and eventually become part of the indexed archives. Each article would also become part of the respective blog author's archives on their Localism profile.

WIth the New Localism, all articles, again with the exception of listings and market reports, will normally show up on Localism within 10 to 15 minutes. They will remain on their respective 'geo-targeted' page until the Localism editors review it. If the article is approved, it will remain on that page. The length or duration of time that an 'approved' article remains in view on that 1st page will depend on how many other subsequent articles are approved, and push/shift your article down in descending order. Eventually, your article will become part of the indexed pages at the bottom of the community page. Any articles not approved simply become part of the author's blog archive on Localism, and can be easily accessed by clicking on your 'My Blog' link.

Contrary to popular belief or urban legend, none of your Localism articles are 'removed' from Localism. Regardless of whether your article is approved or not, it will always be resident/archived on Localism.

Now visual confirmation is a big deal. I get that. After all the time and energy that goes into a well-crafted local-content post, we want to see the concrete fruits of our labor, proudly displayed for all to see!

However, the question I had posed previously still applies:

"What's more important - that YOU see your articles showing up on Localism, or that consumers find YOU through your articles?"

The window of opportunity/time for people to actually 'see' a given article as it is published is limited. The realities are that, initially, most consumers are going to be searching the Internet using relevant key search terms, and will find your articles/profiles through their searches, not by necessarily accessing/viewing the specific Localism pages. And even as Localism grows in popularity and gains traction as a destination site, I would suggest that the former way of being 'discovered' will continue to be the most predominant/common.

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77 Comments on "Missing in Action!" Not Chuck Norris, but Localism Posts

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2008

I've still not been able to even determine what localism is. When I try to go there, it won't let me. I've resigned myself to trying to explore it at some point in the future.

2:24am • #1
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I haven't even discovered this bug yet. Thank God! Will you take a look at the questions in my Localism post from yesterday? Much appreciation!

3:14am • #2
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"Regardless of whether your article is approved or not it will always be resident / archived on Localism "-- don't understand this? If an article is not approved then it still appears on Localism??? If this is the case, then why does the process exist for approving articles??? Just do not understand this comment??

3:50am • #3
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Bob & Carolin:  There are two places for your Localism posts to reside on Localism:

1) On the relevant Community page blog archive. These are the 'approved' articles. One of the biggest concerns we had from our members was maintaining the quality of content on Localism. The use of editors is to help ensure that goal.

2) All of your Localism articles can be found on your Localism profile, under 'My Blog'

3:56am • #4
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I think this localism is a good thing, but it is the hardest thing for me to understand, and has been since I have been here. Surely there is a way to make it easier?

4:01am • #5
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That helps me understand it a little better.  It is still very frustrating for me.   

4:33am • #6
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Oh it looks different today.

I like this look a lot more.

5:18am • #7
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However, the question I had posed previously still applies:

"What's more important - that YOUsee your articles showing up on Localism, or that consumers find YOU through your articles?"

Rich -It does matter to me!  Here's why - if Localism becomes the huge destination spot that is the vision of Jonathan, Bob, Brad and You then there will be a greater likelihood that the percentage of people find my posts by actually going to Localism and not via a google search on key words.  We all know about bounce rates a the fickle finger of a consumer - if they don't see what they need upon landing on a website they are inclined to just search on and not stick around the site to explore.  So, should someone go to Localism intentionally (which is the goal) and go to Wake Forest and not see what they want they move on to Trulia, Zillow, RealTown, Point2 or one of the other sites with info.  They won't take the time to think "Hey, that Top Neighbor girl looks interesting, let's see what she says."

Yes, I understand that means it is imperative for us to write rich content so that we do appear on the Localism geo-targeted page, however, if one one my posts is relegated to the archive of Localism (by a moderator that either slips ups or doesn't know anything about Wake Forest) then we'll never know.  Conversely, that same moderator may let a post (which has happened) that is entirely inappropriate appear on the Localism general blog role.

I don't really have a dog in this race as the bulk of my localism is approved (with the exception of 1 that Bob tool care of immediately) but I can certainly see where the frustration is and I watch my posts like crazy to be sure they do show up.

5:48am • #8
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Russell,

Here is a link to your localism page http://localism.com/CA/San%20Diego

You can get there by typing in www.localism.com or you can get there from the city or county profile page. The localism link is on the left of the page.

Rich,

I am working on getting more involved in Localism, and have bothered you quite a bit - thanks for all your help.

My recommendation is that the editors create a set of standard email to clarify the reason any particular post is removed ( better - relegated to just the member localism blog page.) There is no other way I know of to educate us as to what constitutes approved content.

Judging from content remaining in the community, city, and county pages, and what content is removed from those pages, I have not been able to discern a consistent criteria.

Some notification system, maybe even an automatic email ala the harsh notification when a post is deleted from a group - have you ever heard of those notices. :)

I just think there should be some reason noted (other that a general inappropriate content)

Maybe something like - Reason for removal ___ listing  ____ market report ____ content not local _____ content is  to much advertising ____ not original content

The new look of Localism is very clean and very nice.

Richard

6:02am • #9
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Rich...

I'm still confused ....

I had an approved article ... community description with a Chamber of Commerce quality photo ... and it disappeared after a week WITHOUT any other posts being added ... and I was removed from the top neighbor list.

So I'm wondering why people would go to a city destination (Where I advertise as a sponsor) if there is NO content there?

6:06am • #10
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Rich, hanks for the review. The new format looks great and has a nice finished look.

6:31am • #11

Thanks for the clarification---As far as Localism, it is a work in progress.

6:34am • #12
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I am still having the problem I emailed you about several weeks ago.  Post are correctly geo tagged, approved and stay on the state page, but do not drop down to the county level or city level in MadisonCounty, GA and below, with the exception of Colbert, GA.  Please tell me who to harrass :)

6:38am • #13

Rich, I like the new look of localism this morning,  the only thing missing is "yesterdays localism used a list of blog post headlines right at the top left hand corner.   I think that would be better, then if the consumer is looking for a certain post or subject they do not have to search through five or ten pages of posts (which they will not do unless they have free time)  to find what they are looking for.  Also, the  "browse cities " button is not working and google maps is showing a world view in Kankakee county, IL but it is working in other counties in IL such as Will County.  Weird.

The new localism is great,  and even if your posts is not approved AR does great in google and consumers will still find you. Keep up the good work!

6:46am • #15
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Hi Rich,
I have the same issue as Lenn.  My recent posts are not showing up in the communities they target (they are not listings or market reports).  I do understand the process and am just totally confused why they are not there. 

6:51am • #16
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it just takes some time getting used to the new way.  I'm trying to work w/the new rules but it can be frustrating sometimes.

6:56am • #17
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Lenn Harley wrote:

Some neighborhoods do have some of my content, but may also contain multiple posts of other members publishing market reports.  Go figure.

Rich,

The content question is important to those who are committing to the new localism, and more so to those who have been committed to localism.

I do not know how to get the word out that continuous dry marketing reports are not localism posts, especially to those who evidently do not read and participate in the AR community, and I do not know how to monitor.

Maybe there could be a terms and use post that must be read signed and follewed by a brief test, before posting to localism. Then a removal reason email sent when a post is removed from community pages.

Otherwise, it seems to me with new member growing so rapidly and older members in some cases not aware of standards, Localism can become unmanageable.

My thoughts.

Two comments on this post from me. That is probably enough from me. :)

Thanks,

Richard

7:15am • #18
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Hi Rich

You cleared up a couple questions before I asked them.

Thank you

Tom Braatz

7:17am • #19
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Rich- After reading the comments, i thought I'd better check out the new, new, new version of Localism.  When I go to "My Blog", the first sentence of my description has been truncated.  Makes it look like I only work with relos and renters.  Do I have to shorten the description, or can you replace the full sentence?

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Rich,

That was my question....I was hoping to ask you where the market reports and listings go but now I'm confident that they will still be found amongst the search engines as before. I think the problem is that doe some if they see it then they are secure enough to believe they are being found by the consumer. As long as the consumer sees it as they were before the new launching...then that's all I care about. All you have to do is go to your archives and the post is still there.

7:23am • #21
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Rich, some of my communities are messed up. Who should I contact about this? One is a City and says community. In Ann Arbor there is a market report showing on page one for Ann Arbor and no it is not mine. So some are slipping under the radar. One post I did on Meadowinds a community I bought is also not showing up even when you go the community.

 

7:36am • #22
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My July market report doesn't show but one from June does. Wrong subdivisions in my area from other bloggers and the right ones are in never never land. Frustrating for me.

7:37am • #23
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I deleted my previous comment because some of the questions have been answered.  However, the inconsistancy of what is published and not published for articles posted in a State/County/City/About a Region is still unclear. 

Here's a question from someone still under the bus with about 100 posts that are not included in any State/County/City/About a Region category, if my past articles are relegated to my blog on Localism, what is the incentive for me to buy and pay monthly for neighborhoods??? 

Another question, is Localism a "real estate network"?

Perhaps if we knew what ActiveRain is or isn't, it would help in determining what to publish to Localism.  To that end, I looked again at the Localism "About".

"Localism is the valued point of connection, a place of meaningful interaction. It's where neighbors and local merchants share what's happening in their community. It's people collectively communicating the unique flavor and nuances of where they live, work, eat, and play."

Yet, below the About Localism, is the statement:

"ActiveRain Corp. is not responsible for the accuracy of the site's content (which is written by members of the ActiveRain Real Estate Network) and does not endorse the views of the real estate agents, mortgage brokers, and others listed here.

Powered by the ActiveRain Real Estate Network"

It would seem to follow that if content is "written by members of the ActiveRain Real Estate Network", (real estate agents, mortgage brokers, and others * * *), that you are going to get

REAL ESTATE RELATED CONTENT, whether or not it is the goal of Localism. 

I believe that this is the cause of much confusion among contributors. 

I'm still down here under the bus with about 150 posts about real estate in my market area that didn't survive the conversion to the New Localism. 

7:42am • #24
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Rich it is good that you covered this again as all the endless moaning about Localism is starting to get old. I don't envy your job!

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Rich - Thank you for reviewing this.  It IS frustrating when you can't find a post!  Will "County" become one of the categories when Localism is released?  Right now, I'm seeing "City" and "State" - my goal for Localism is to attract people moving to Anne Arundel County, in general, because most relocating buyers haven't a clue what City or Community will work for them.  Within 15 minutes of Fort Meade, for example, there is Columbia (Howard County), Crofton, Gambrills, Odenton, Crownsville, Millersville, Severn, Hanover...   The way Localism is now, readers can search only by the City or State (unless I'm missing something).

7:46am • #26
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Yes!!!  I am moaning about Localism myself this morning.... ;-)

.... Margaret's question Will "County" become one of the categories when Localism is released?  Right now, I'm seeing "City" and "State" - my goal for Localism is to attract people moving to Anne Arundel County, in general, because most relocating buyers haven't a clue what City or Community will work for them.  Within 15 minutes of Fort Meade, for example, there is Columbia (Howard County), Crofton, Gambrills, Odenton, Crownsville, Millersville, Severn, Hanover... " is my question

In Central Ohio, everything I post (and what other AR members post)  is going to two counties.  One of the most popular communities in Delaware County Ohio is Downtown (Downtown Columbus) which is in Franklin County Ohio.   We should be able to pick the county when we post content to Localism but it should not post to multiple counties IMHO.  A neighborhood is in one county ... unless it straddles counties...  a number of cities here straddle counties.

 

 

7:54am • #27
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Rich - the new localism looks fantastic, but as many others, I just want to make sure I know what is "approved" material and what is not.  I hope at some point we can either see examples of posts that were not approved or in some other way know what caused a particular post to not be approved.  Again, thank you for the Active Rain team's incredibly hard work putting this together.

8:02am • #28
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Rich - the new localism looks fantastic, but as many others, I just want to make sure I know what is "approved" material and what is not.  I hope at some point we can either see examples of posts that were not approved or in some other way know what caused a particular post to not be approved.  Again, thank you for the Active Rain team's incredibly hard work putting this together.

8:03am • #29

First, thanks for trying to answer the questions I expressed in a recent post of mine here. Based on the comments I received on my post, it's quite obvious that this is a big issue for a lot of people. I know you are working on it and we really appreciate it but...

I'm totally with Lenn on this one. Obviously the goal is to be found by the consumer and a google search will most likely be the way we are found, so my local posts will not go to waste ultimately. But what is the incentive to sponsor a neighborhood, particularly if it contains old or incorrect information? The consumer will not go directly to localism (or will not come back) if they do not find new, relevant and updated information. Right now, there is Cary information in Barrington, old market reports, and many recent articles are not showing up anywhere they should be. This appears to be happening all over the place.

I know you are working on this, I am not bashing the localism concept or moaning about it, but it is frustrating and perhaps it should have been fixed/working correctly before you started collecting money from subscribers and asking everyone to stop writing about real estate and to focus on local content.

8:10am • #30
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Rich, thanks for the newest "clarification".  I don't claim to understand all that is going on.  I am sponsoring several local areas.  The "proof of the pudding" will be in what kind of response I get from these sponsorships.  I'll remain open minded while I await the responses.

8:28am • #31
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I do recall vividly, when reviewing the New Localism, saying that we are very "county oriented" and county is not a unique category in the New Localism.  Rarely do relocating consumers of real estate information or services ask for info about a city or neighborhood.  It's usually about a county first.  Or, they seek info about a state.  They often start with the work location and work out but not city by city because they don't have knowledge of cities. 

None of this really matters if the New Localism is not real estate oriented.  I believe that is becomming the big question.

 

 

9:01am • #32
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Rich, please get Lenn Harley out from under that bus.....she's too valuable to be under a bus. I also have confusion in our area. In Redding we have 3 small cities (Palo Cedro, Anderson and Shasta Lake City) that are blurred by agents and clients as being part of Redding. They are actually cities and show up as Cities. However, they have also been added as Communities. I think for me....I'm just going to write for the areas I've sponsored and post for localism with a good job of bringing that specific location and lifestyle to life for the consumer. The internet is a living example of self-organization and diverse knowledge and information. This will sort itself out over time and as we have all learned to be good bloggers, we will evolve how we blog for the New Localism. There's a million questions for us all and its always going to be joint problem solving....you and us....figuring it out. I am researching daily what works and what doesn't and adapting my style. I am following the AR lead. Thanks for all the posts and helping us come to better understand the New Localism.

It looks cool....I like it better....more refined!

Note: I came back to post a comment about Lenn Harley's level of frustration and validate it. I felt the pain a few days ago myself. I've since then backed off and started evaluating what's working and what's not in California. Clues on market reports that are features are that they are interspersed with local information and a personal interpretation of what the market data means for the consumer and that local area. One of the Top Neighbors in California does tons of market reports. I have to admit they are peprsonal and compelling and very different from most market reports I do or have seen. I am learning and so will we all. Just one final note. In depth local experience seems to work. The "Cookie Jar" next door and the "Sign Company" I do business with are all examples of what's going up. I respect Lenn Harley and everyone coming in on this. We work hard and time is precious.....100 posts going missing puts us all under that proverbial bus.....Thanks Lenn!

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Rich

This is a great article. The process is very clear and you pose an excellent question: "What's more important - that YOU see your articles showing up on Localism, or that consumers find YOU through your articles?"  While I cannot say I understand all of the technology and who sees what - I do understand the message.  I imagine that for some people the answer to your question may not be so obvious.  I believe everyone is doing the best they can with what they know. Thanks again for the clarification.

 

9:14am • #34
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Rich...  Thank you for the clarification, I think part of the issues are that members don't fully understand what the "editors" are looking for, I've seen my own posts and other member's posts (that I thought were relative) not make the cut, yet others do...  It's a work in progress and I think overall having editors is a "good thing"...

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Hi Rich -

Thank you for posting this.  Honestly, of course it is important for the consumer to see what I post and not me, but the whole point of Localism as I see it is for the consumer to get hyperlocal and when they click on Greenwood in Seattle, they are not seeing the local flavor content that I wrote to be on that page.  I understand some of the editing, but I am not seeing consistency in what gets edited and that is what is frustrating for me.  I can write a post and have it completely be what Localism wants and it gets edited out of the community page I am trying to fill....

I just used Greenwood as an example, but here is a link: to a post that I think should not have been edited out of the Greenwood neighborhood in Seattle page:

http://localism.com/blog/wa/seattle/greenwood/posts/625020/Yes-There-is-a

Here is another one that I think should have stayed on the Sunset Hill neighborhood page of Seattle:

http://localism.com/blog/wa/seattle/sunset_hill/posts/635655/Sunset-Hill-s-Rain

With so little content in both of these neighborhoods, I would think that there would be less editing, but also that content would be happily displayed.  The Sunset Hill one in particular is about a local video store - and I even put a picture in it:)

I have about ten more examples, but I will wait to see what you say about these.  Bottom line, if the consumer is going to use Localism like a neighborpedia, then I want my local flare content to be on those pages when they go to those communities. 

Thanks again for writing this one up:) I look forward to hearing from you!  I love what you guys are doing and love the new look today! 

 

9:22am • #36

Rich, that still did not answer why my posts are showing up in communities I never targeted nor why I cannot change it back to the targetted community.  AJ

9:27am • #37
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Well I must say I love the sneak peak and the look of the site with the "tags" what a cute play there. Cant wait til that site grows more.

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I am glad to see the localism Monster didn't just eat my post!

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Me again -

I am also wondering how posts from other public neighbors are going to be treated once Localism opens up to the public.  In the example above, if my RainCity Video post was put in by any other Joe off the street and it got edited out, do you think that Joe is going to be wanting to continue to actively participate in Localism going forward?  And what if his blogging is really bad - grammatically and more?  Most people out of the public that we are going to run into have not blogged before.  Are they going to be edited out, too.   

I agree, moderation needs to happen, but I think that maybe less in this case, especially while we are working so hard to get the new Localism up and going by populating its nooks and cranies with content that we wouldn't normally write in order to give the site the local flare you are looking for.

Thanks again Rich - I appreciate all you are doing!

9:50am • #40

Rich,  I have a question and I and a little brain dead at the moment.  So, I may be asking something obvious.  In your article you state, "They will remain on their respective 'geo-targeted' page until the Localism editors review it."  My question is about the geo-tag.  I have be under the impression something may be worthy of to be approved for the city level but not the state level.  Is my thinking correct or if it is approved for the city it is automatically state?

I may have follow up comments depending on how this is answered.

10:00am • #41
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I was wondering where the listings or market report buttons were, now my answer :)

Sounds like they will be there eventually, right?

10:35am • #42
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I agree with Courtney and the others feeling the frustration. Will these issues ever be solved?  How will we know what is removed and what was lost?  If their are people moderating the new localism, how is it they never answer questions we have.  Why are people and articles posted in the wrong counties?  Glitch?  I really miss the opportunity of blogging on the localism pages as much as I used to.  So much good work, just lost.

10:59am • #43
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I did notice it took longer for the posts to show up on localism.

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Rich, thanks again. I do think I have a handle on the "ins/outs" of Localism. I just have one issue. I am getting tired of AR members not using it properly. I am tired of seeing what should be "member's only, or AR posts" be tagged with the Localism tags.

I so love the format and the idea behind Localism but there are still those that have no clue and are posting CRAP on it still! I know that those posts will probably be removed once a human can view them - however, that post could be the first impression a "neighbor" sees and that really gets me riled. Localism is for the consumer - NOT for us to rant and rave on!!! So what can we do about this. I want a "report" this post button on Localism - or something. Ok - stepping off the soap box.

11:34am • #45
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I never even knew this. I guess I don't check what is going to localism and what isn't
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For those of your having your descriptions truncated: the issue has been resolved!

11:45am • #47
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I think that the new Localism is full of... promise.  But, I also think that the editing is going to need a LOT of attention and that the guidelines will need to be VERY clear.  So far, we haven't really gotten concise guidance on what content should or shouldn't be approved. 

The other thing that I think would be VERY helpful would be some level of information as to why a particular post is not worthy of the front page for the area.  What would be really cool would be a scale and scoring system.  The idea would be to rate the posts from 1-5 in several areas, and then if the post is over a certain score it goes to Localism.  Share the score with the author, and then they can see what areas they need to work on.

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My Jury is still out on Localism.  However, I am willing to give it some time. Meanwhile, I will keep posting to my community. The one thing I would like to be able to do is upload additional pictures.

Keep up the good work

Leander

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Bill Gassett wrote: Rich it is good that you covered this again as all the endless moaning about Localism is starting to get old. I don't envy your job!

Bill, I think when you are 1) a paying sponsor, in my case 14 communities, and 2) a content creator that it is fair to respond in an open forum about issues with Localism. I think it is EXTREMLEY unfair to characterize it as moaning. There are legitimate business concerns here and it is demeaning to suggest that they are merely petty complaints.

12:04pm • #51
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Richard:  Bill has good intentions. Members continue to raise really valid points of concern, and we obviously need to continue to respond accordingly. On the other hand, there are those who are quick to be critical and make hasty judgments needlessly.

 

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Rich...

Oh, without a doubt that is the case. My preference has always been to work together as a team to get the happy balance, and that has always been the case here at AR.

We ALL have a vested interest in making Localism work, and I understand the need to cull posts to get the correct look and feel. But as suggested, when you don't know the reason that a post is excluded, it's difficult to make improvements.

BTW The new interface looks great.

12:20pm • #53
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I appreciate your posts even thought I still don't really understand localism or why I should be posting there. Keep at it and maybe I will figure it out as we go along!

12:26pm • #54
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I gave up on Localism due to the bugs. I continued to post to Localism, but they weren't showing up while others were. It was a bit frustrating.

1:02pm • #55
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Hello Rich,

Thanks for the post.  The New Localism looks great, I am really happy with it.  I totally understand the whole Localism "thing".  There are a few changes that need to be clarified for my neck of the woods and maps are missing and need to be posted, can't figure out how to do them, Mercer County, Hopewell, etc.

 

1:21pm • #56
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Hey Rich,

I know some of my posts are subpar and seriously boring. If I go back and revamp them do I have the opportunity to "resubmit" them so that they will appear in their neigborhood rather than just under my blog?

How would I do that?

2:08pm • #57
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Hey Jorgen- Thanks.  I'm no longer "truncated."  While Rich gets to fend off the onslaught of problems/complaints, you just smash those bugs, one at a time.

2:08pm • #58
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I try to devote some time each day to totally understand Localism, from what I understand it won't go live for another week or so??? Is that right?

2:15pm • #59
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Thanks for this post. I'll admit to being confused over this issue myself. Change can be painful.

2:47pm • #60
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Honestly, I don't care.  I just want them to "find me."  As you know, I've closed 11 deals off of AR.  THEY JUST NEED TO FIND ME.  I'll take both ways.....

3:17pm • #61
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Gracious...

This is a park and follow comment. No need to pull out my chair I won't be here long :)

TLW...ROAR!

4:47pm • #62
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Rich, getting previous applicable posts up on Localism is confounding me. Maybe if I check every single box it will appear somewhere. I KNOW that I am missing something very very obvious.

5:07pm • #63
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Rich, it worked great just now for me. I posted a new Localism article...read a couple of posts on AR and then went to visit the new Localism design and my new post was already there.  Woo Hoo!  Thanks!

5:23pm • #64
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Rich I don't know 10 to 15 minutes is a life time in blog years :)

You know people in this business not only want it now, but right now :) :) :)

6:12pm • #65
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Are you going to go back and remove the listings that appear?  The ones in my area look bad as they were posted with either Vflyer or Postlets and they are all chopped off.  They don't belong in the current structure of Localism.  Any chance they will be gone soon?

8:31pm • #66
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Rich, I have just one question...did we solve who got McCormick Ranch yet?

8:53pm • #67
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Rich, Reading through the extensive commentary helps me to understand why I didn't receive a response to my earlier e-mail.  Apparently, a lot of folks are also perplexed.  As much as we would love to sweep some of these issues away, I think that the fact that there continues to be confusion indicates that there is a problem. 

We're all new to this experiment and would like to see it suceed.  It just seems that the criteria is not clear and continues to change.  Asking questions is not about being self serving...it's about trying to understand.  For many, things are working.  That's great.  But for those for whom it isn't for a variety of reasons there needs to be a continuing dialog of civility and understanding. 

100 Posts is a lot of hours in ones life...

9:08pm • #68
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Rich...

I really don't envy your job!  There are still many things I would like to see fixed, added, changed, etc. on my little part of the world.  Every time I send an e-mail I get no response and nothing changes?

I know that all of you are working very hard on this, and I'm sure you are all frustrated also.  This is a huge change, and no doubt it will be "a work in progress" for a long time, if not forever.

I know that all will get worked out the best it can be, and it will take time for all of us to understand the workings of Localism.  I appricate all y'all are doing, and the look is great.  In the long run Localism will be a win-win for everyone, Active Rain, Members and the consumer.

Thanks, Liz

9:30pm • #69
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Thanks for the clarification Rich - and I am still wondering about multiple counties and neighbors. Perhaps you could just e-mail me when you get an opportunity.

10:22pm • #70
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OK -- It is a bit late, so I will bookmark this post and come back again to find out how this is going to work. I am wondering how some of the older post can be incorporated into localism if they still are relevant -- e.g., iinformation for buyers on buying a condominium...

11:18pm • #71
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How do we know if a post is approved?  Is it just if it appears on Localism?

12:44am • #72
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Very clear Rich - Thanks.  The New Localism is getting me out in the community to interview people and get involved so that I can have relavant posts.  Still see the need for the market reports and listings so look forward to having the tags when it is publicly launched - when is that?

3:45pm • #73
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Rich-I just posted something members only about the new Localism.  I'm glad to see the updates on what is happening and why.  I don't always agree with it but sometimes I do have to shake my head and wonder what people are trying to accomplish.

6:16pm • #74
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Just when I thought I finally figured it out you changed it again.  LOL

3:18am • #75
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Chuck Norris doesn't sleep...he waits. (chucknorrisfacts.com)

Great post, keep up the good work, and check out that site for a good laugh.

8:32am • #76
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Rich, i'm amazed at your work ethic here on active rain. You do so much for us day in and day out.  Sometimes we think Rich IS Chuck Norris :)

btw: happy 300,000th (seing that you're just 4 posts away from getting it)

3:32am • #77

I agree with Brian: There should be "a list of blog post headlines right at the top left hand corner." Consumers aren't likely to scroll through blog after blog to see if there's a topic that interests them.

Tammie Turner
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Rich,

Thanks for the clarification on that. I am playing around with localism but between AR and work it is secondary.

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