Well it has been one heck of a few months in regards to one horrible deal with a medium sized builder here in Houston (see my last blog for more).  I don't want to name names since my goal here is not to slander someone.

We finally make it to closing on Friday (or so we think).  We were delayed a few hours because title had one last lien to clear.  They called with the good news that we were ready to close. All liens were cleared for closing.  The buyer went and signed, dropped his $8000 off and called the utility companies for connection.  The seller was coming in moments after us to close.  I explained to the buyer that he did not quite own the house yet but the owner of title assured him we were fine. 

As the buyer is on his to his home I get a call.  The sellers bank decided to send over a revised approved HUD.  This new HUD showed the seller owes them $30K.  This particular bank owns all his investments in this subdivision so he was under the impression that he could close with now payment of his debt. 

We were told that this extra $30K is not due to his debt but due to the fact that the bank feels the seller sold the home for less then it was worth.  Funny how that seems like they are trying to inflate the FHA approval to me (if this part of the story is even true).  Apparently the seller is trying to explain to them that these houses are not worth what they would like them to be.  The builder claims they are treating him this way because this bank backs Royce Homes.  We have heard that Royce Homes is filing bankruptcy trying to reorganize.  They have all of their closings on hold.

Here we are on Tuesday waiting to hear from title or the seller about this issue.  The seller says he has the figure down to $10K and is still in negotiations with his bank. My buyer now has the electric on in his name yet the bank would not allow him to move in (which in my opinion is a good thing, I hate lease backs).  He paid for extermination, and also is homeless in 2 weeks (we were suppose to close on this house, that was 90% done when we put in the offer, 2 months ago).  The buyers bank is working with us to try and close before tomorrow. 

What advice does one have for the buyer who now may have to get an attorney?  How long does his give this seller to solve the problem???? The seller and his agent have both told me they have other parties that want this house.  I have never had a deal that was so frustrating and so stressful for my clients.  I have been lied to for months about many things regarding this hoe by the selling parties.  The buyer has been treated poorly.  His needs put on the back burner.  It really has been the worst deal I have ever had.  I am just at a loss for words.  This is a first time home buyer who is just the sweetest guy in the world. 

We all know it is the sellers responsibility to sell this house for the negotiated price once the contract has been executed.  His actions have been very negligent.  At this point I am worried he will try to screw the agents out of their commissions.

I am just trying to get through this one with our heads held high and do the right thing.  Any advice would be great.

 UPDATE (AS MY SOAP OPERA UNFOLDS)

The sellers bank just spoke with me and they never set  HUD.  Title must be covered for the seller who obviously has told some tall tales. The bank did not try to inflate the sales price. They merely want their principal balance paid asap.

The bank stated that they have waived every possible fee known to man for this builder, just so things will progress.  The fact is he owes the balance and if it is not paid they will take the home back into their possession within 45 days, along with the rest of the subdivision.  They are beyond upset with the way this man has conducted business but their hands are tied in terms of my buyer.  The seller must pay now, final decision.

They did also state that the buyer getting an attorney would be pointless since the seller would most likely be forced to file bankruptcy.  They stated the bankruptcy court is only forced to pay secured debts.

Christina Stevens

Realty Associates

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10 Comments on Help Please

AUG
19
2008

I may be misunderstanding, but this sounds like a short sale.  (Sellers lienholder, his lender, has final approval.)

Were you aware upfront that this was a short sale situation?

 

1:12pm • #1
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why would the sellers bank approve a HUD, around here they do not see a HUD until they receive their payoff, they just send in their payoff amounts and thats that, Where do they get 30k from? He owes what he owes depending on  how much his construction loan is, they can't raise his payoff for no reason, sounds like the builder is lying to me.

1:16pm • #2
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why would the sellers bank approve a HUD, around here they do not see a HUD until they receive their payoff, they just send in their payoff amounts and thats that, Where do they get 30k from? He owes what he owes depending on  how much his construction loan is, they can't raise his payoff for no reason, sounds like the builder is lying to me.

1:16pm • #3
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why would the sellers bank approve a HUD, around here they do not see a HUD until they receive their payoff, they just send in their payoff amounts and thats that, Where do they get 30k from? He owes what he owes depending on  how much his construction loan is, they can't raise his payoff for no reason, sounds like the builder is lying to me.

1:16pm • #4

It seems like it does not matter that the seller has other people interested in the property, he has entered into a contract with your Buyers and is responsible to perform to it's specifications.  I would say get an ATTORNEY soon!  Let the attorneys work out the details, I am confident that the builder already has representation, they all do!  Good Luck, your buyer should be pleased to know you are doing your best to get it figured out!  

1:16pm • #5

I am not aware that this is a short sale. 

Tim- good observation.  Never has anyone heard of a approved HUD being unapproved and changed.  This title company was contracted by the seller to handle all his companies closings.  They should have never allowed the buyer to essentially close without having all the liens taken care of.  I doubt we are dealing with 2 different approved HUDS on the sellers side but this is what we have been told.

Anna I agree but the seller and his agent keep telling me how much everyone wants this house (yes his subdivision sits unsold).  I agree about getting an attorney soon.  It has been pure hell for him.

1:26pm • #6

Somebody is out of bounds here.  I agree about the seller's bank getting the HUD.  What? 

1:50pm • #7

The sellers bank just spoke with me and they never set  HUD.  Title must be covered for the seller who obviously has told some tall tales. The bank did not try to inflate the sales price. They merely want their principal balance paid asap.

The bank stated that they have waived every possible fee known to man for this builder, just so things will progress.  The fact is he owes the balance and if it is not paid they will take the home back into their possession within 45 days, along with the rest of the subdivision.  They are beyond upset with the way this man has conducted business but their hands are tied in terms of my buyer.  The seller must pay now, final decision.

They did also state that the buyer getting an attorney would be pointless since the seller would most likely be forced to file bankruptcy.  They stated the bankruptcy court is only forced to pay secured debts.

2:49pm • #8
SEP
04
2008

I am really this loan closed and funded when it did.  If we had not funded on the day we did  the file would have had to go back to uw, we would have lost the lock and a new credit report would have been required with updated pay stubs and bank statements.  This is the most stressful deal I've been involved with since I began doing mortgages.  It is really frusterating when the builder and listing agent don't seem to care about the inconvenience this caused the buyer.  I usually don't worry about files as things go pretty smoothly but this file had me sick to my stomach.   I am glad it is over and believe these clients will be a great source of referral business for you.  Hopefully our next deal together will come off a bit smoother.  Thanks for all your help as you are truly an asset to the business. 

Jason

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13
2008
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