Previously, I wrote about the state of the mortgage market, based on a direct mail marketing piece I received from Wachovia Bank.  I thought their letter, offering purchase loans to current customers not even in the market for a new home, was bad marketing at its best (or worst?) and a sad reflection on the state of the company.  This week, my nominee for "Stupid Mortgage Marketing Letter of the Week" is ING Direct, a direct lender and purveyor of the "Straightforward and Fair" Orange Mortgage.

Now as a bank, I like ING Direct.   Two kids and two houses ago (when I was able to actually save money) I had an internet account with them because they paid a lot more interest than my local bank (yeah, that's you Wachovia).  As a matter of fact, I think I still have about $40 in an account there somewhere, which when you take into account the higher than average interest rates they pay and the miracle of compound interest the account is now probably worth............. about $40.

ING wants to offer me a mortgage that "fits my needs and isn't filled with surprises".  A banner on the letter advertises a 5.50% rate, but surprise! - it's a five year adjustable rate mortgage (ARM).  Now I assume by now that the marketing geniuses at ING got the memo, read in the newspaper, or received on of my own "brilliant" direct mail pieces warning consumers that billions of dollars in ARM's were set to adjust and that they better refinance now into a low-fixed rate mortgage before their payments rise.  In fact, I'm sure they got that memo because not once do they use the terms "adjustable rate" or "ARM" in their letter but rather say (in what in my opinion is both deceptive and stupid) "The Orange Mortgage could save you thousands, because we base our low pricing on keeping the rate fixed for 5 years instead of 30 years, like most banks." 

Are you kidding me?  Is this direct lender now trying to market to consumers under the premise that ARM's are better than fixed rate mortgages because the rate doesn't stay the same for 30 whole years? Isn't everyone else in the industry busy trying to blame all the greedy mortgage brokers who stuck the poor consumers into ARM's (supposedly against their knowledge) causing them to lose their homes when the payments adjusted, leading to the current crisis the industry is now in?

And just when you think it couldn't get any worse check out some of the "Answers to Your Questions" on the back of the letter:

One is about how high the rate can adjust.  I'll skip over the details but leave you with the statement that you can expect this mortgage "never increasing more than 6% over the original rate for the life of the loan."  So the rate starts out at 5.5% and can increase as high as 11.5%, more than doubling the payment and this saves me money how?

Another question is:

Is there a penalty for cancelling my application after I apply?

Actually, that wouldn't be one of my questions because I would never assume there would be, but guess what the answer is?  "If your cancel your loan or your loan is withdrawn due to inactivity, we'll charge you $350 to cover our expenses.   We think that's fair."

Really ING?  I don't think it is fair, not at all.  You're a huge company and can certainly eat that $350 that you wish to pass off to the customer after he changes his mind, realizing that his mortgage is actually an ARM, and may not be so "straightforward and fair" after all.  I've known small mortgage brokers  who incurred all the expenses of processing a loan, even fronting the cost of the appraisal, only to have a customer decide she didn't want to refinance just before closing  because her "mom told her  not to".   I've also known Realtors who waste dozens of hours and gallons of gas taking prospective buyers to look at homes only to have them decide to continue to rent for awhile longer.  Nobody ever sends anyone a bill for their expenses.  Maybe your policy is fair ING... for you; it would put the rest of us out of business.

And topping off any crappy loan product, is the requisite one year prepayment penalty of 3% "to compensate for our expenses and lost income" in case you decide to pay your mortgage off (read sell or refinance) during the first year.  ING warns that if you don't plan to commit to this loan for more than one year "perhaps this isn't the right mortgage for you."  

Perhaps they are right about that one; this definitely is not the right mortgage for you.  And to think it is mortgage brokers who are blamed for being dishonest, deceptive, and greedy.

                                                                                                                                                    

 

 

 

Michelle Chamberlain is a Pennsylvania mortgage professional who prides herself on being neither dishonest, deceptive, nor greedy.  To refinance your own adjustable rate mortgage, other "crappy loan product",  or to learn about other mortgage loans we offer visit www.aboveallmortgage.com , email, or call toll free (888) 891-7704.

 

 
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19 Comments on You Think Mortgage Brokers are Bad????

AUG
27
2008
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Michelle, I loved your post. And Ing will get those who don't read the fine print.

8:13am • #1
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Great post.  I suppose their next direct mail piece will be for an interest-only product that doesn't burden you with the cost of paying principle.

9:00am • #2
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Amazing! Don't you just love it! It's been quite some time since ANY ARM (3/1, 5/1,7/1,etc.) was close to beneficial vs a fixed rate loan. Yet, companies that market on a national level continue to push them. Despite the current issues facing our industry, the GREED continues. ING had a nice little set-up as a depository. Built a real solid foundation. But this type of marketing only puts a house of cards on top of that. History has always, and will always repeat itself. Nice post!

9:58am • #3
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Nancy - Thanks, we know how many people actually read the fine print.

Karl - I like that.  If ING doesn't pick up on it one of the other big guys will.

Scott- The funny thing is that if you or I sent out that same letter, we'd probably have predatory lending complaints filed against us.  But ING somehow manages to make ARM's, cancellation fees, and prepayment penalties seem OK and 'fair".

11:35am • #4
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Thanks for posting this, Michelle.  You probably wouldn't be surprised but when we bought our house (almost 4 years ago), we wer told by the lender that an ARM was the best thing for us.  Either that or an interest-only loan.  We have since found out that both are really not good.  Refinancing can be a killer - and if you don't have adequate representation, forget it!

Thanks for doing your part to enlighten the world - one lowly reader at a time!

~Renae

12:04pm • #5
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Renae - The problems with those types of products is that most consumers don't really understand them, and unfortunately some loan officers pushed them as a way to make more money for themselves.  Now it seems that huge national corporations are pushing them yet again, albeit deceptively.

To be completely fair, these products are not all bad in the right situation.  For example, if you knew without a doubt that when you bought your house 4 years ago, that you would have been moving within 5 years, then you could have saved some interest with an ARM, provided you understood the risks.  On the other hand, things change, who knows what will/can happen 5 years from now?

As far as interest only, that would have enabled someone to buy more house than they could have afforded otherwise, the problem is that not only are they not building equity, they are losing it because of falling house prices.

thanks for reading.

2:28pm • #6

 I have one of those rates that just adjusted on one of my rental properties. It just adjusted from 7.99 % to 9.69 %  . 2 years ago when I go it I was told  I could refi in 2 years .... guess what no i can't, not because my credit is not good but because the home doesnt appraise any longer. Been trying to get a loan modification for over 2 months with Chase... no answer yet . 

Advise to everyone looking to get a loan. Get a fixed rate so you don't have to worry about it.

5:25pm • #7

 I have one of those rates that just adjusted on one of my rental properties. It just adjusted from 7.99 % to 9.69 %  . 2 years ago when I go it I was told  I could refi in 2 years .... guess what no i can't, not because my credit is not good but because the home doesnt appraise any longer. Been trying to get a loan modification for over 2 months with Chase... no answer yet . 

Advise to everyone looking to get a loan. Get a fixed rate so you don't have to worry about it.

5:25pm • #8
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I have one of those rates that just adjusted on one of my rental properties. It just adjusted from 7.99 % to 9.69 %  . 2 years ago when I go it I was told  I could refi in 2 years .... guess what no i can't, not because my credit is not good but because the home doesnt appraise any longer. Been trying to get a loan modification for over 2 months with Chase... no answer yet . 

Advise to everyone looking to get a loan. Get a fixed rate so you don't have to worry about it.

 

08/27/2008 05:25 PM by

5:37pm • #9
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Elena - Your situation is both unfortunate and not uncommon.  I've heard that loan modifications are difficult, especially with investment properties, but I wish you luck.

To be fair to ING, I did vistt their website and you do need to have at an 80% LTV inorder to qualify for their adjustable rate mortgage.  Still, I who knows what direction the market will go in the next 5 yrs.  Why take the chance?

7:49pm • #10
AUG
28
2008
Outside Blog

At least ING is offering some protection with the 80% LTV, but the bottom line on these loans is education.  Many consumers were pushed into ARMs and I/Os without truly understanding the product.  These loans were a good fit for some people, but only a minority of folks and only if they were truly informed.

10:03am • #11
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Karl,

I agree, bottom line is education.  ING actually states letter (fine print)  that they hold on to the loan and they don't sell it off, so the 80% requirement is as much for their protection as it is the consumers. 

 I have no problem recommending an ARM, if during the course of conversion you feel it may benefit the consumer  - say they indicate they are relocating in 3 years.  But then you still have to weigh the risks and the rewards.  The problem  I have here is that its being marketing as a better alternative to a fixed, I know you and I get why the letter is deceptive, but I wonder what consumers think?

BTW- I have another interesting ING story, this one is actually positive, and I'll be writing about it next.

Michelle

11:08am • #12
AUG
29
2008
Outside Blog

The consumer, with some media programming, is skeptical of mortgage brokers and mortgage companies in general.  Heck, right now some of them are even afraid of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  But ING is not seen as a threat, therefore the consumer has lowered their guard.  This makes the misleading letter such a problem.

I will read your positive story, but for entertaiment purposes prefer when you are a little bit angry and have an edge. to you.

3:25pm • #13
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Karl,

Actually,  my "positive" story does have an edge, you'll see.  Maybe someday I'll figure out how to write nice, but right now it bores me. 

Michelle

3:50pm • #14
SEP
01
2008
27 Featured Posts

Michelle,

Deceptive advertising has been around for a long time, and unfortunately will likely be around for a long time to come so long as "fine print" is allowed. 

I am glad to see you mention that ARMs and I/Os are not all bad, because these loans can be excellent financial tools when used properly, and that doesn't mean buying more home than you could otherwise afford.  

As for ING, their still "reputable" and that reputation will let them make loads of money of loans to customers who simply "trust" ING to be working in their best interests.  We all know how that is going to turn out.

9:28am • #15

Aren't all of their products ARMs? They are looking for the needle in the haystack on these mailings. I might consider a convertible ARM but the average consumer is going to run from these products. Lastly, have you worked with ING? My experience has been that they are very rigid in their underwriting.

9:50am • #16
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Robert - You are correct that ING is seen as reputable and that is why consumers will trust them to work in their best interest.  As I said before,if I were to send out this type of letter, I'd probably get complaints.

Patrick - I just checked their site again.  It does look like they only offer ARM's although they like to call them "five year fixed".  I totally missed that fact, as I assumed as most people might that the 30 yr fixed option would be there. I remember when they used to market the mortgage that you never had to refi and could take with you even if you moved,wonder what happened to that?

I don't agree that the average consumer would run from this product.  From the way they market it, it is unclear that it is an ARM.  I have heard too they have rigid underwriting  since they don't sell their loans but what that means I'm not sure.  Could just mean other lenders are far too lenient.

11:08pm • #17
SEP
18
2008
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Spot on...  Especially the following comment:

"Maybe your policy is fair ING... for you; it would put the rest of us out of business."

Great post!

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