This is what former President Bill Clinton said tonight at the Democratic National Convention.

 

"People have always been impressed by the power of our example, than the example of our power!"

 

What a WONDERFUL AND ABSOLUTELY PERFECT SAYING ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD USE POWER.....  Has anyone whispered this into Bush's or any other Republican's ear?

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36 Comments on Bill Clinton's ABSOLUTELY PERFECT saying about POWER during the Democratic National Convention.....

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27
2008

symbolism over substance, the Clinton way.

 

Chris the Implementer

8:41pm • #1
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That same line really stood out to me as well. Rather than specific foreign issues, I would like to see our government focused more on domestic and global issues, and set positive examples by our leadership.

8:45pm • #2
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Chris, I've always tried to vote not the party way, but look to see how our country is doing NOW, and looking at their track record.  Though Clinton had moral issues, he did bring the country back and had a surplus when he left his office, and then Bush took over. ;>)

John, We do need to focus on "our needs" within "our country" and take care of our own, and stop being "BULLIES" towards other countries.  All you have to do is leave the U.S. to feel how many countries really hate our policies.  I agree with you 100%....  ;>)

8:51pm • #3
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I agree with John as well.  I would just like to know how Obama plans to do this.

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Karen, I've seen what the Bush's have done for the past 8 years, the question should be Why another 4 years of the same policies?  Our country is basically falling apart.  You really need to look back at how our country was doing 8 years ago and how it's doing now.  It's not that we are only "Republican" or "Democrat" or "Independent".  I think we need to analyze what's really happening right now, and by many, many peoples account it's not going well in the U.S. right now. 

We have made many enemies and we aren't liked around the world.

It's okay with people who never leave their country, but it's not good when it comes to trading or traveling overseas. 

Really look around you, Are families outside of your area hurting or are they all living in luxury? 

Do they all have Health Insurance? 

Are their jobs going overseas? 

I'm not nuts about either candidate, but O'Bama is the better of the two evils.  Another 4 years of an Old Republican ticket will put us in a morgue, where we will not be able to dig ourselves out of.

                                            ;>)

10:12pm • #5
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Here's a question - what exactly do you think Obama is going to do?

10:30pm • #6
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Ann-Marie - haven't heard from you since you got that whole Clinton-Gingrich-NAFTA thing all wrong. Kind of like the McCain being just an extension of Bush.

8 years ago the economy was on a downswing, we were entering into a recession, the stock market was crashing (ok, that was 7 years and 51 weeks ago), we were falling apart from the dot.com bubble bursting.

10:37pm • #7
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Ann-Marie ... I like your notes but don't agree with you on this one.  Bill Clinton's statment "People have always been impressed by the power of our example, than the example of our power!", which sounds soft and nice enough.  The truth is people around the world respect us for both.  If they didn't respect us for our example of our power, we'd all be in big trouble.  Harrison K. Long, Explore Properties Group, Irvine, CA

10:53pm • #8
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28
2008

Harrison: The world used to respect this country for both, but Bush has destroyed our standing in the world by invading Iraq, by using torture on our enemies and by shredding the Constitution for all the world to see. He is no better than the despots that rule banana republics across the globe. George Bush is a national disgrace and a dismal failure on every count. How many more days is it until he leaves office?

1:46pm • #9
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Why do former President's always seem to have it to together so much more after they their term is over then while they were still in the White House! I can think of a couple others who seem to have it together now that they are not in office!

1:51pm • #10
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And what a fine example president Clinton set.He proved that power does not necessarily lead to morals.

2:13pm • #11
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I think what Clinton said, "People have always been impressed by the power of our example, than the example of our power!" was consistent with most of everything else he said last night, well delivered misrepresentations.   He probably doesn't believe in the example of our power because we, our embassies and the 92 Trade Center, were constantly attacked during his presidency. He did nothing to resolve conflicts in Somalia, Haiti and obviously, the terror camps in Afgan.  The people that hate us were tremendously impressed with his power of example of do nothing. 

Libya was impressed with our example of power.   Russia, during Reagan's term, was impressed with our example of power.  North Korea was impressed with our power when Reagan would fly the SR71 over their country during negotiations. The only reason Iran and Russia now feel comfortable pushing the envelope is they think our 'power' is limited due to the Iraq war.  Power impresses.  We already know this.  Did Italy and France rely on our examples or our power to save their booties in WWII?  You bet.

You can beat up on Bush all you would like for the war, in fact, you can even continue to do it in a manner that undermines his reputation amongst the world, but understand that you are setting the country up for future failure. Most of the world is envious of the US, the rest hate us for our freedom and support of Israel. If you believe that the example the democrats have demonstrated by a partisan undermining of our commander will put us in a different light with those that envy or hate us, then you again will be discouraged with the future outcome.

I thought it was a crack up the way Clinton made it sound like he made our country safer during his term.  I'm surprised that Clinton would even open this discussion. His known negligence in the 90's is what cost Kerry the election in 2004. The swift boat campaign is the buzz word, but really it was the American people's realization that we became more vulnerable during Clinton's term.

We have heard numerous times that Obama would not have used force to uphold the UN resolutions on Iraq, but I have never heard him say what he would have done if he was President.  Wouldn't it be nice if politicians would give us examples of what they would have done while they stand on the pulpit critizing the actions of others? 

Good luck with that 'be nice and they will like us' approach. 

2:34pm • #12
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Hi Simon & Mike,  If O'Bama does anything, it's probably going to be better than what Bush has done the last 8 years of his administration.  At this point, with many people losing their jobs to Corporate Greed, mortgage crisis due to Bankers & Mortgage Specialist's  Greed and lack of any economic policy to pull this country up and over it's problem.  I believe he's smart enough to get the job done, after all his not a "C" student who had a "daddy" who got him into Harvard.  HE EARNED THE RIGHT TO ATTEND HARVARD.   That says it for me.

Hi Harrison, Try stepping outside of your country, and see how the rest of the world now treats us.

Hi Scott, I agree with you wholeheartedly, Bush has ruined this country and it's reputation!!

Hi Terri & Hugh,  Clinton had an economic policy, due to his sharpness in Economic Theory, which he majored in.  Morals aside (which by the way, I didn't agree on either), he had the intelligence to lift our country out of its deficit.  We had a surplus, until Bush stepped in. 

2:41pm • #13
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Scott - what in the world are you talking about (other than media talking points).  We have the closest relations with France and Germany that we have had in a decade.  The governments of the Middle East were relieved at our actions in Iraq - although they will be more relieved when we are able to withdraw after our job is done.  It is true that the radical elements of some of the religious groups are against us - but they already were prior to 2000. The UN has not been particularly pro US for more than 30 years.

The President has directed that water-boarding (the only example that could be called torture that I am aware of) be off limits to normal military channels and only used in extremely limited situations by intelligence agencies.  Three cases are reported.  Our restraint is remarkable. Our opposition is beheading civilians in public and on video.  And you think we are the bad example?

Shredding the Constitution is pretty strong talk that you are not backing up in any form.  The legislation since 9-11 has come closer to the edges than I would like - but the legislation has come out of Congress.

I am content to let President Bush and his administration be judged by the more objective perspective of history.  You would do well to remember that Mr Bush is not on the ballot this year and it is time to have candidates from both parties tell us exactly what they will do with the challenges that lay ahead. 

The untruth of your statements is contained in your own words.  Unlike your despots of the banana republics you talk about, President Bush will leave office on January 20 - on schedule as provided by law - without tanks in the streets - and power will pass to the next administration in a fittingly American fashion. I fail to see the comparison to the "rulers" you describe.  In my opinion your language is excessive and unfounded.

I would agree with you that there are legitimate criticisms that can be directed at the Bush administration - as there are with every  administration.  It is an imperfect world and sometimes plans don't work exactly as intended.  There are real distinct differences  between the core beliefs of the different parties and between the current crop of candidates and legislative leaders.  If you would care to elevate your conversation to discuss real issues without the rhetoric than we can talk.  State your points with logical argument and facts and you will be respected by readers on both sides and we may find that we have more common ground than appears at the moment.

2:51pm • #14
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Well said Ted.  The above mentioned attacks on Bush are partisan rhetoric that our enemies feed upon. He has made mistakes in management, as have all presidents, except for Clinton apparently, but we as a country need to stand behind our president and the political process.  Don't think for minute that foreign countries did not love the media and liberal pounding on our commander. They saw the infighting as a way to rise above us. Now their economies are falling faster than ours and in the next ten years they will be asking for our help against the next tyrannical dictator. 

I'm concerned about Obama's record and beliefs, but if he is elected President, then he will get my full support as our leader.   (We would have a much better country if the liberals would have done the same thing instead of purporting unfounded rhetoric.)  And the rest of the world should not ever again question our resolve.

3:30pm • #15
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Ann Marie, this is a fine mess you've gotten us in. ;o) Many strong opinions are being expressed, I like Joe said above, hope as Americans we can stop tearing our Country and it's leaders apart. We also need to let our leaders know that they need to stop ripping one another apart and focus on fixing issues. I still believe this is a great country and wouldn't live any where else.

4:04pm • #16
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So Ann Marie - NOT ONE SINGLE POLICY can you name? Just more "change" and "hope" huh? Why don't you check out my newest blog about Obama. I posted it today and it's called "Obama: The truth must be revealed."

4:09pm • #17
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Ann-Marie - the average unemployment rate under Bush is lower than the average unemployment rate under Clinton, that includes the recession Bush inherited from Clinton, the 9-11 attacks, the Enron & other corporate scandals (which came to light during the Bush administration but were going on during the Clinton administration). I see that you have no blame for greedy individuals wanting to leverage as much as they could from their homes. I see you don't blame government policies of excess taxation for the migration of jobs out of Detroit & Michigan. I see you don't blame the second highest corporate tax rate in the to 35 countries in the world (most of which you appear to hold in higher stead than the U.S.) for the migration of corporations and jobs outside of the U.S.

Your statements provide the perfect example of liberal - facism, the government is the solution, individuals are not responsible therefore not to blame, corporations are bad.

4:41pm • #18
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2008
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Hi Simon, Greg & Mike, Long time no see...  Are you kidding me?  Maybe at McDonald's, Wendy's or the mall...  Many well educated individuals left the country, like us, with Masters degrees, because the jobs were outside the U.S.  You need to do your homework, before you indicate the average unemployment rate.

I found an article from U.S. News & World Report dated today, April 29th, 2008, from an orginal article dated April 18th, 2008:  Here's the link, "http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2007/4/18/bush-vs-clinton-the-economic-verdict.html"

"Now, one way to statistically compare the two economic records is by looking at the Bush expansion vs. the Clinton expansion. And 21 quarters into each, the economy has grown 16.6 percent under Bush vs. 19.9 percent under Clinton–advantage No. 42. And the unemployment rate 22 quarters into each expansion–jobs numbers come out more frequently – show that the current unemployment rate is 4.4 percent vs. 4.5 percent under Clinton. Slight edge to No. 43. Now, when you add in–or subtract out–the effects of the stock market (for Clinton) and housing bubbles (for Bush) and where each president began, I think this ends up as a "pick 'em" situation at this point. Here is what White House spokesman Tony Fratto told the Washington Examiner last week:

"This is a much stronger expansion in a lot of ways. It's much deeper and more measured ... If you go back to this point in the Clinton expansion, they would have loved to have seen the numbers that we have right now. ... On the unemployment rate, we're a full percentage point below where they were at the same point in the expansion–60 or 61 months in. They would have loved to have been at 4.4 percent. They were still up in the mid-5s, which is huge, when you think about it."

OK, let's use Fratto's methodology. I checked the employment data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and found that 60 months into the Clinton expansion, the unemployment rate was 4.7 percent vs. 4.5 percent for Bush. The last time the jobless rate was as high as 5.3 percent under Clinton was January 1997, 49 months into the Clinton expansion"

Since there are many more people in the U.S., statistically, and many of those previously unemployed took jobs that were much lower in the status of their education (McDonald's, etc) maybe, yes, they are working, but can they support their families on that income???   Could you live on that pay for your family?  If you answer yes, then you can vote for the republican ticket.  I'm not.

                    ;>)

12:46pm • #19
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30
2008
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Ann-Marie:  Ooooh.,.. I wanted to slap the first commentor.  Symbolism over substance, my big foot.  There is so much "substance" in Bill Clinton's remark... it is amazing. 

"People have always been impressed by the power of our example, than the example of our power!"

 You are so right.  What perfection.

In a way it reminds me of ... "I don't care how much you know... until I know how much you care."  I sure wish both Bill and Hillary were running... boy, do I ever.  Thanks so much for shring.

3:12am • #20
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Wow... did you attract a group of "whiners."  LOL.  As far as "moral issues"... what Bill Clinton did to Monica Lewinsky... Bush and Cheney have been doing to the entire country for eight long years.  This alone is enough reason for the change Obama speaks of.  Throw them out.  It isn't only Bush, Cheney, and McCain... but the whole trainload of thieves they bring with them.  Thanks for your bravery with this post.  Take care...

3:15am • #21
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Ann-Marie - while I welcome your opinion, if you live in New Brunswick, I may not have to worry about your vote. 

 

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Hi Ted,

Sorry, but our whole family has their "Absentee Ballots" since you never lose your right to vote!  The way it works is, the last place you lived in the U.S. has you registered, therefore, you can request an "Absentee Ballot" from that county.  Even though I'm a "Canadian Permanent Resident" and will become a "Canadian Citizen" after 3 years as a "Permanent Resident" we have "dual citizenship".  So, Ted before you make a comment like that, read my profile and but think again!

              ;>)

 

Hi Karen,  You will always be AWESOME in my book.  You say it as it is!  I could not have put it better.  The "Business & Economic Morals" that Bush & Cheney did take this country into a MAJOR RESESSION, where "Other Countries", like China, are now bailing us out.  What a shame....  ;>)

 

7:03am • #23
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Very interesting. I never made a comment on unemployment, but that is what you choose to answer as opposed to the question I asked twice. As for the example the Clintons set: travelgate; Lewinski; turning down Bin Laden when he was under arrest; whitewater and on and on and on....

Or how about Obama? Ayres; rev Wright; VERY cagey start to his politics in Chicago; some Catholic priest whose name escapes me right now; Resco...and on and on and on......

8:36am • #24
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I guess the advantage is that I don't have a masters degree (or a bachelors for that matter) so I wasn't smart enough to know that I shouldn't have been earning six figures. I don't remember what your degree is in but we were certainly hiring, in the U.S., people with masters. But even then, we had a hard time finding qualified people, redardless of degree level. And most of the companies that I dealt with were doing the same thing.

As for unemployment rate, the average unemployment rate during Bush's term is still lower than the average during Clinton's.

Since you moved to Canada because you wanted to make more money, how do you feel about U.S. corporation moving offshore in order to make more money?

8:52am • #25
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There is a big problem with the statement. 

The example that we led with during the Clinton years was that we would accept bullying from even the smallest of small fries.  The first WTC bombing... dealt with by the police, and the leaders behind it were never prosecuted.  The USS Cole and Kobar (sp?) Towers... again, nobody up the ladder made to pay.  Clinton was HANDED the opportunity to get UBL, but now claims that he had no basis (the problem is that UBL had been indicted previous to that and so there WAS an active warrant which would allow his capture. 

So, the example of our power was actually an example of our powerlessness. 

And now we have not had a successful attack on the US for 7 years.  AQ and AQI leadership is dead, captured or in hiding.  Countries aren't really interested in openly allowing terrorists to be harbored within their borders. 

Walk softly and carry a big stick.  But if the opposition knows you can't swing the stick, the strategy is worthless.

10:20am • #26
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I just had the great opportunity to meet Bill Clinton and hear him speak.  Anyone who hasn't heard him in person can't imagine the power of this man's speaches.  The line from this speach is a great example. No matter what your views are, you have to admit that he's a powerful man.

BTW Ann Marie, I was up in St. John a few years ago when our cruise ship stopped for a day. What a beautiful area, and the people there were soooo friendly and nice.

8:31pm • #27
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Ann Marie:

I think it was a profound statement by President Clinton. There is a saying that when I was in my early 20's and had a lot of responsibility in my family's business, "heavy hangs the head that wears the crown". A middle manager at my families business would say this to me. Well the USA wears the crown of the world.

The powerful must lead and also define the use of power. I think there is one thing about power that is sometimes forgotten. When you are the beholder, you my choose your own time and place to use it.

You need not be hastened by others, but may carry out your own agenda. I felt that we should of went to Afghanistan and put all our power there until our first mission and use of power was complete.

Then at our own time and will, looked at Iraq in a less hastened way.

I'm sorry if a tagged on a political tought here.

Best,

Richard

9:28pm • #28
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Linda - I agree that Bill Clinton is a truly wonderful speaker. Even more so than Obama. The unfortunate thing is his words are never backed up by his actions.

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Hi Simon,

 You really have to start thinking "outside the box" just a little, and then you might see some positive things from both poltical parties.

                                     ;>)

9:42pm • #30
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Ann-Marie - I do! I have said often that the best presidents are those that do almost nothing. That applies to both sides. Bill Clinton was unable to get past Congressional grid-lock for a substantial period of his Presidency which meant very little got done. Less Government is always better. That's why a McCain Presidency with a Democrat Congress might well be good for America right now.

9:48pm • #31
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2008
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Ann-Marie - thanks for response.  I looked it up and you are absolutely right.

Thank you for correcting me. (I found a couple of good Supreme Court cases in there too)

I will try to do better next time.

3:16pm • #32
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All I can say is   I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinski, and I did not inhale

12:45am • #33
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Ann-Marie:  After hearing the rah rah speeches of the past two nights... basically what they are saying is that they are the right party to fix all the problems created by their own party over the last eight years.  All that fixing... by voting in agreement with Bush 95% of the time.

12:55am • #34
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Thomas:  Dragging out the old Bill and Monica story again... how original.  All I can say is... what Bill Clinton did to Monica Lewinsky... George Bush and John McCain have been doing to our entire country for that past eight years.  No Way.  No How.  No McCain.

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Hi Karen, I AGREE.....

The Republicans said nothing new this week!  In fact, they really didn't speak of the "ECONOMY". 

Time will tell, if our country is ready to reinvent themselves, or continue the cycle to "chaos".....

To all of the public:  THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE & VOTE SMART!!!

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