So, if there's ONE thing that has really changed about me since I became a Realtor - it is my absolute lack of patience for bad salespeople. And I don't think I could have scripted a more infuriating story about an absolutely terrible, and I mean AWFUL, salesman.

Some background: I grew up with a used-car salesman for a father, yes, that's right (*insert used-car salesman joke here*). Which also means, I never had to actually go buy a car - I always got it wholesale! (insert another joke here). So after some research on my own, I made an appointment with a salesman at the dealership in Arlington, and headed down to fight!

Upon my arrival, after many minutes of waiting to be helped...I tell my guy I want a certain color, a certain model, and I know you have 2 of them in stock - let's talk. His reply: "ok, well, why don't you look around the lot, and see what you like."
Lesson #1: Actually LISTEN to what the customer tells you THEY want. Especially when they've already given you all of the specifics. This should have rang "Easy Sale" to this guy.

Upon telling him that i've already narrowed it down to these 2 vehicles (again), already test-drove them, already know i'm going to buy one of them - he proceeds to tell me in 3 different ways that he's the sales manager, and that his office is upstairs, paying no attention once again to me, or my wants/needs. Lesson #2: In any type of sales, you sell YOURSELF first, and your product later. From this moment on, it only got worse.

With my requested trade-in value in hand, we begin the scary price negotiation! After asking me the same question 2 different ways, and my answer apparently not getting through to him - he writes the complete opposite down on his "appraisal sheet" and attempts to decrease my car's value by about $3k (the question was whether the car had ever been into an accient, which it hadn't. AFTER running a Carfax report, which showed it had NEVER been in an accident, he proceeded to check yes, anyway!) Lesson #3: Attempting to swindle your customer out of a few thousand dollars, is not a way to earn trust or business.

Needless to say, the rest of the 1.5 hours of this experience was equally as unpleasant. So the exchanged ended with me saying, "Please give me back my keys" since they were hiding them, and I turned on my heels, and left.

I called the other dealership, spoke to a GREAT salesman who actually LISTENED to what I wanted, PREPARED what I had asked for, and MET my needs. In fact, he nearly surpassed my asking value for my trade-in, AND gave me a deal on the sales price, which increased my buying power to purchase an EVEN better model than I had originally anticipated - all for the same amount.

Some Lessons Learned From Today's Experience:
1. LISTEN to your customer
2. Sell YOURSELF to your customer
3. If you can't exactly meet the wants of your customer (which sometimes you can't), find an alternate method to at least meet as many of their needs as possible.
4. LISTEN to your customer

At the very least, I hope this experience gave you something enjoyable to read! It gave me a good laugh....after the fact. :)

 
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78 Comments on The Tale of the Real Estate Agent vs. The Used-Car Salesman - Who Do YOU Think Won?

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01
2008
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Laura,

Yes fidicuary responsibility is very important, good job,

Thanks

Tom Davis

World Class DE Realtor

11:57pm • #60
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02
2008
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LAura - You know I just got finished buying a used car 2 weeks ago and came across some horrible salesman as well.  The thing about these experiences though is they definitely do open your eyes and forces you to reflect on your own ability as a sales person.  You take the good with the bad and I am glad you got your car! :)

12:10am • #61
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What an aggravating experience.  I once had a dealership tell me I couldn't test drive the car because he was of the opinion I couldn't afford it.  I told him I wanted a particular monthly amount and would put down money as needed to get there, but he apparently didn't hear me.  What he did hear loud and clear was money falling from his pocket when my husband came in the following week with a more expensive model from a different dealership for a minor maintenance.

12:44am • #62
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Hi Laura. I just bought a mini van a couple of months ago and at first it was a NIGHTMARE. I could not believe how many times I felt like I wasn't being listened too so when I found a great dealership and a great salesperson I was ecstatic. I still sing their praises and give out business cards when people mention they are thinking of getting a new car. :)

12:53am • #63

I enjoyed the post, Made me smile, Thats why Saturn took off, No haggling, heres the price. Its only a matter of time when the manufacturer will prepare your order from the plant and deliver it to you

1:32am • #64

Laura,

What I love about your story and others' comments ... you took your business somewhere else!  Too many people give their money to undeserving people even after the bad experience.  Bad quality or service businesses would learn a quick lesson if more people followed your lead.  It feels good when you've spent money toward a deserving person or business.

Saturn is great!  I've been pleased with them for a long time.  I want one of their new models.

7:20am • #65

Laura,

Thanks for this post. It is unfortunate that some sales"people" don't listen to their clients. This happens way too often. I'm glad you took your business somewhere else.

7:49am • #66
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I can't remember the number of times buyers have told me the last realtor they worked with had broken rule number 1.  How hard is it to listen to what they want?  Even if you find out they really want something different you have to start out where they want to start.

8:52am • #67
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I wasn't looking forward to buying a new car recently.  I kind of had to- mine was about to leave me stranded on the side of the road any day.  I went, on a suggestion, to CarMax.  It was an unbelievable experience.  No haggling- professional- and they took care of everything in office.  I was in and out with my new "used" car in under 2 1/2 hours.  It was great.  I just took my mother there and same thing.  Oh!  I have called several times to see if they would take care a little spot, ect.. the last being a tiny leak- I bought a convertable-  no questions- they replaced the whole top.  I would recommend them and have to everyone I know. 

9:01am • #68

Laura,

 

Wonderful post. Well written, thoughtful and entertaining.

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

Good luck,

 

Jim Fischetti

9:04am • #69
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Hi Laura,  I hope your new car is a great one.  But remember, some of those bad sales guys/gals will be in our business as they change jobs !!!

9:30am • #70
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It is interesting too when buyer or seller clients approach real estate with this type of "used car salesman" mentality....it makes for some interesting experiences!  Glad you got what you wanted....and weren't afraid to walk away from the first salesman and try again with another, better, representative.

10:33am • #71
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Laura: Lots of great advice here. Whatever we do, it should be in the best interests of the customer!

 

Paul

12:28pm • #72
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Laura

I hate the car buying process as well, which explains why I keep my cars so long.  I do all of my shopping online now and then call the dealer.  I test drive a similar car but then walk away.  Negotiations are done over the phone.  When all is agreed, I drive to the lot, drop off the check, sign a few pieces of paper and drive away.  1 hour tops!

1:07pm • #73
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These comments are so overwhelming!! I'm so sorry for everyone who has had a terrible experience buying a car - obviously, now I can relate! I can't imagine actually having left that first dealership, knowing that bozo got a commission check from it. I was happy to make a point - EARN your commission, don't just expect it because you think i'm a naive consumer who won't stand up for what she deserves.

 

1:17pm • #74

I thiink if more of the public spent to time in commission sales everyone would be better off.  Moral when you find a good honest car dealer or Realtor  tell everyone!

 

1:47pm • #75
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I can't stand bad salesman, just like I can't stand bad wait-staff at a restaurant!  I test drove the Nissan Armada the week they were delivered to the dealership just to see if I would give up my 4Runner... this was Nissan's first V8 engine, and it was very loud every time I put my foot anywhere near the gas.  The sales guy tells me it's so you can hear the engine working for you.  Huh?  I don't wanna hear the engine!!  I wanna hear my music!  What an idiot!

I hate it when the server comes over, I'm ready to give my drink and appetizer order so those can get going, and they stand there, "uhhh, I came over without a pen and paper and I can't remember those simple items in my tiny little brain, I'll be back in 10 minutes to take your order."  And I also hate it when the car guy think, as a woman, I don't know anything.

2:24pm • #76

I like how you keep emphasising "Listen to your customer". This is the best thing anyone can do. We all sometimes are ready to get on with the process, and fail to listen as well as we should. Thanks for the reminder of what's important everyday! Being fully present and paying attention is something we all should do to improve our relationships with customers, clients, and everyone else in our lives! Thanks for the post!

4:19pm • #77
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What you must understand about car salesmen vs realtors is: car salesmen want instant gratification. They want to sell right now, and get a paycheck Friday. That alone is a big reason they cannot sell homes. I was a very successful used car salesman for 10 years. There is a reason you have 2 ears and 1 mouth, you should be listening twice as much, folks will tell you everything you need to know

4:44pm • #78
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24
2009

Hi Laura,

I totally agree with most that the Salesperson/Manager was not listening. Denying him a sale was a huge punishment, but loosing out on good car was silly on your part as you only had to tolerate him for that moment...but you would have ended up with the car of your choice for long. i can understand the frustration you went through. I'M A USED CAR SALES CONSULTANT WITH HONDA. Believe me , i listen as i never believed in selling a car to one person.....ii want to sell cars to his/her family and friends as well. And if i dont listen then how can i find them the right car. Next time give me a call and i'll give you the perfect experience of your lifetime. My number is 0421988850 and i do sell excellent condition Used / new Honda cars . And I work for Yarra Honda. This company has trained their consultants well to understand the wants  and needs of all kind of people. Please do not categorise them all in such a negative way. I do apologise on behalf of this restless manager, But i hope you ended up buying a good car for yourself..

Ash

0421988850 

Ash
5:25am • #79

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