Yesterday, I previewed a house that, for a moment, I thought was a short sale or foreclosure.  It had some tell-tale signs, although it was listed by a so-called "full service" broker:

  • It was supposed to be open between 1 and 4 in the afternoon, but at 2:25 pm, there was no agent on the premises.  So I used the electronic lock box to let myself in.
  • The yard was overgrown with leaves and debris all over the place.
  • The place had a wet basement smell.
  • The kitchen had been completely stripped.
  • It was not staged except for a couple of area rugs.

And all for a seven-figure price tag.  Oh well.   A million dollars doesn't buy a whole lot of house anymore!

This place was an interesting sort of craftsman cottage in one of Washington's premier neighborhoods - the only remotely modest house in a neighborhood of places where you'd need a butler.  As I looked around, I found a fact sheet boasting a completely renovated kitchen.    OK!  Not stripped!  Just in the middle of a redo!

Then I found photos of what they were putting in - extremely contemporary cabinets and appliances.  The cabinets looked like IKEA and the appliances were brands with which I was not at all familiar, meaning they were either really high end or not.  I suspect probably not.  And they were totally wrong for this house!

I don't know the listing agent, but I suspect that he is giving advice on what to do with the kitchen.  But it's all wrong!  It's completely inconsistent with the style of the house!  It looks cheap.  The cabinets are all wrong.  Where would you get spare parts if the no-name appliances broke down?

When it comes to renovations, I have graduated to the "Know what you don't kow" stage.  I've seen enough houses where the seller spent money following bad advice from their real estate agent.  That's why God created kitchen planners and architects.

So just like I refer my clients to lawyers when they need legal advice, I refer them to kitchen and bath experts when they need advice on how to make a gross kitchen or athlete's foot bathroom flirt with buyers.

Sure, you can give them free advice that they'll have to pay an expert for, but as in most of life's domains, they'll get what they pay for!

 
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2008
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what would be even worse is if the agent owned the home....

8:36pm • #5
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Patricia,

It is interesting on what happens in this market.  The way some agents act they have all the business in the world and a monopoly.  

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LOL @ athlete's foot bathroom!!! 

Quick, Pat, run in there and negotiate them out of their renovation.  Tell them your cllent will take all that trouble and expense off of their hands for a reasonable price reduction.  It will save them from themselves and get your client a great deal in a fixer.  Got anyone for this?

9:04pm • #7
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Pat - one of the biggest mistakes I've seen is someone installing a very contemporary kitchen in a historic home - you can have the latest high-end appliances, cabinets and counters and still stay true to the charm of the home. Those disconnects stay on the market forever - they just don't appeal to the typical buyer who's looking for charm. That would work in reverse to put folksy into a stark contemporary house. In decorating as in architecture, truth is important.

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Frustrating eh?  Don't you wish you could e-mail them with some friendly advice..........or tell the Realtor to NOT........?

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Michael, yeah.  Ikea.  Can you believe it?

Terry, people do make odd decisions, and my real issue is when their agents make the odd decisions for them.

Audrey, there are some things you can do that are not expensive and look great - like white subway tile (which they had in this house on the kitchen walls) and it is consistent with the period of this house.  But the kitchen cabinets just didn't work.

Frank, yeah, I have no idea what's going on with this house.

Thesa, I really think that agents should list with other agents!  We are our own worst clients!

Larry, now that would be totally delusional!

Elaine, that is exactly what I'd be doing, except that it's a little small for the poeple I was previewing for.

And Sharon, I totally agree.  When I was renovating my own house, I worked hard to stay true to what was the rage in 1914!

9:26pm • #10
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Liz, I'd like to contact the agent, but giving unsolicited coaching is sort of, um, rude!

9:38pm • #11
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Pat, I would say who would pay seven figures for this dump? I feel sorry for the listing agent.

10:13pm • #12
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2008
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Pat we need to keep in mind what we are expert at and leave the rest to other professionals.  Great reminder.

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Pat,

GREAT advice, leave the remodel work to those that know what they are doing.

5:46am • #14
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advice yes, price quotes no...but I do have some renovation experts on hand to give quotes!

Your friend in Charlottesville!

7:53am • #15
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advice yes, price quotes no...but I do have some renovation experts on hand to give quotes!

Your friend in Charlottesville!

7:53am • #16

The most important part of any renovation is to make it consistent with the house and neighborhood!

8:43am • #17
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Pat... so wait, what are you telling us here?  That if I need my car fixed, not to come to you?  If I need a new roof, not to come to you?  lol  Seriously, there are always those so-called experts or the Cliff Clavin's of the world that they think they know it all... or most of it.   Good advice here and a good example of such.

Jeff Belonger

9:33am • #18

It is important to be honest with our clients and point them in the direction of other professionals when the situation arises.  I think it is all part of providing good service.

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Geez, Pat.  When I give advice like "You really should get a new dishwasher (or stove or fridge or carpet). It would go a long way to selling the place."  My Sellers usually say, "Hey the dishwasher (et.al.) works. Let the buyer replace it."

5:09pm • #20
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Why would you put a house on the market that isn't ready?  Its one thing if they didn't get the flowers planted in front on time or the basement still is full of Aunt Edna's wardrobe boxes - but no kitchen? THAT's crazy!  LOL

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Pat - Nothing ruins a house more than a renovation that is not in keeping with the character of the rest of the house.

11:55pm • #24
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Hi Pat,

Unfortunately many of these clients have delusions of decor and won't listen to anyone.

12:31am • #25
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Pat,

That is a good idea. People are always asking inspectors about what they can do here and there, what wall to take out. It is rarely good territory to enter.

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