In the summer of ‘04, John and Sally fell in love. Both were in their late 20's and had recently gone through difficult divorces. Life being unpredictable, as it is, put them in each other's paths about one year prior. Since they were both going through difficult times, they hit it off immediately and moved in together. They lived up north in the big city and had always dreamed of moving to beautiful sunny Florida. They both had pretty good jobs, with Sally being an LPN and John working for a medical records company, this is actually how they met, but the living expenses in their area were too high. Purchasing a home together, in the city, was out of the question.

One day, Sally received a nice brochure in the mail from a builder in Florida, Paradise Castles LLC, it was chock full of beautiful shiny pictures of Florida and had a promise that they would build you a new castle in Paradise starting in the mid 150's.

Sally was so excited! Can it be possible? Could John and I really afford to buy a home in Florida? The brochure states we don't need any money and they will pay all our closing costs! Sally could hardly contain herself and couldn't wait for John to get home, so she picked up the phone and called Paradise Castles. She got lucky and a real nice man named Mr. Needermoney answered on the second ring.

"Hello, thank you for calling Paradise Castles, this is Mr. Needermoney, how may I help you?" "Hi" said Sally "I just received a brochure from you, me and my fiancée are interested in moving to Florida. Your brochure said we didn't need any money. That sounds real good to us, since we don't have any. Our credit is a little messed up but we do have good jobs and should be able to get jobs down there pretty easily. Can you help us?"

Mr. Needermoney, is now the one who is excited, there's a live one on the phone and he has a quota to meet, "Well we do have a special going on today, in fact, we are giving Castles away to anyone that breaths. I will have our mortgage guy, Mr. Liarsloan, give you a call."

Sally is ecstatic and can't wait to tell John "We are moving to Florida!" Mr. Lairsloan calls and explains to Sally "We will have to do a stated income loan since you don't qualify on your own and John's credit....well, it sucks. But don't worry, I'll take care of everything for you. Just sign the documents I'm getting ready to send you and send them back with the fogged up mirror I'm including. No, no, no ....it's not lying, it's called a no document, no verification loan, I do them all the time. Just do what I ask and we'll get you in that Castle in beautiful sunny Florida."

Eight months later, they loaded up the truck and moved to Paradise. Life was grand! It was heaven! Their new home was beautiful and their future looked bright. Sally had found out a week before leaving the big city that her new job did not pan out but that's OK. We're moving to Paradise anyway and we will figure out what to do when we get there. Of course, when they arrived, they were surprised to find out that the jobs they were used to getting paid $25 an hour for, in the big city, only pay $15 in Paradise. Sally decided to go to work for Wally World while she waits for a better job and John.....well John just decided "I ain't working for no stinkin' $15 an hour. I'll keep looking."

They got real lucky though. They had purchased their home at the right time and by the time the construction was complete and they moved down, it had appreciated about $35,000. Not only that but they got stuff in the mail everyday from really nice folks that said they qualified for an equity loan of $35,000. WOW!! This really is Paradise. So, like any young couple in love, wanting to start a new life together, they pulled all of the equity out of their home to hold them over until Sally found a better job and John started work.

They also decided there was really no need to wait any longer for that new furniture they needed. So they bought some new furniture and really had the house looking good. The new couch was soooo comfortable John decided he would just sit there all day and play video games on the new plasma big screen. He'll have much better luck finding a good job in the spring time. After all, we have enough money in the bank to carry the house for six months and the way values are going up we can always refinance again, if we have to.

So on and on it goes.......................John left Sally in mid '06. She was too stressed out for him. The house is in her name, so what the heck...John decided to go back to the big city and move in with his parents.

Sally called me last week. She hasn't made a house payment in three months and wants to sell. She hates living in Paradise. All she has done for two years is work to try and make ends meet. She refinanced again after John left. She owes $210,000 on the house and now it's only worth $185,000 and declining rapidly. Her heaven turned into hell. And Broker Bryant can't do any thing about it. Sally's a nice person and I feel for her. But I can't help. I can't perform miracles. Her house WILL be foreclosed on. THE END

So whose fault is it? Does it really matter? All Sally ever wanted was a better life. If Mr. Needermoney and Mr. Liarsloan didn't "help" her she would have found someone else to. Would she have found you?

 

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Reserved Parking For "The Lovely Wife"...TLW...ROAR!

Blog Boy (Wink. Wink)

Okay now that I have read it again I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Could you please loan me that mirror? I'd like to fog it up. Wanna help? :)

TLW...ROAR!

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Broker Bryant - you forgot one thing,.. Prince Charming turned out to be just another Toad!  We will be seeing a lot of that in the future - seems funny to think of the times when we bought a home to live in, raise a family in and be proud of, now it seems a lot of it is all about the quick dollar... equity is like money in the bank... but if you always go to the ATM - it does run out eventually.  How sad - maybe Sally will meet Prince Charming find Paradise and live happily ever after.
4:15pm • #2

Mirror looks pretty clear from over here in sunny CA, but the sun hits things differently from here to there,  so I dunno for sure.  LOL! 

As for Sally's hubby, John, well sounds like she made money on the closing of that deal. 

I dunno how much time she's got, but do feel free to visit my web site or call if you think I can help.

Shauna

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CBB: You stitched together a story worthy of a Codger! It’s hard to find blame, at least absolute blame, for the situation above. It wasn’t all that long ago, no matter how “entitled” a person thought they were to achieve the “American Dream” of home ownership, they understood that they had to earn their way to the dream. They had to establish and maintain good credit, they had to save, and they had to satisfy Mr. Tightbucks, the loan officer, that they had a down payment, proof of income, substantial savings, and a credit history—and maybe a willingness to put up their 1st born child as collateral.

Jay 

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Jay...

That cracked me up. Seeing as how we have identical twins Sons (age 31) we could have shot two birds with one bullet on that one :)

TLW...ROAR!

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BB, Do you think this would be a case for a short sale? At least that's less of a hit on her credit. We are seeing a lot of those here lately.
5:10pm • #6
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I am sure people are gonna disagree with me but I am getting pretty sick and tired of this kind of stuff. While there is an incredible responsibility for the lender in all situations, people really should be more careful. We can sit here all day and argue about who "should" have done what, but at what point do we start focusing on the consumer.

No one forced the consumer to sign the loan papers, no one told the consumer to move anyway even though they didn't have jobs, and what about the fact that they didn't even know about the job market there and how much they would be paid. Give me a break. 

I was 18 when I owned my first house, I was 20 when I owned my 2nd. I own a brand new car and truck free and clear from payments. My parents gave me nothing, they were in 25K in debt when I left their house when I left for college. I never make excuses for my financial mistakes.

People should always consult an attorney or CPA when they are making big financial decisions. Especially when it involves moving to another state or buying a house.

They made mistake after mistake. And at the end of the day there will ALWAYS be lenders out there to sell that kind of loan to uneducated borrowers. 

 

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I like the above comment about Prince Charming becoming a toad. Sad isn't it?
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The problem with real estate agents is that they are agents for themselves. A professional counsels their clients as to an approperiate purchase for their circumstances. A problem arises when logical actions fly out the window.

Their agent should have maintained control of the situation and connected the clients with reputable people throughout the transaction. Ignorance of final outcome is not acceptable. The responsiblity to the client survives the closing. Residential Realtors tend to forget this obligation.

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Carole...

<CLICK HERE> You missed that one. You're gonna like it. SVW.

P.S. Put your coffee down and spit out your gum :)

TLW...ROAR!

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Jacob, What are you tired of? This post is not about blame, it's about reality. It is showing how these things happen to good people. She made terrible decisions and now she will have to pay for her mistakes. In my market, many lenders prey on the weak and have been for years. And so have REALTORS(R), non realtors and builders. There are bad apples in ALL groups. 

Susan, There's an 80/20 mortgage on the property. A short sale in this case is unlikely since there will be nothing left for the 2nd. I actually have a couple of short sales I am dealing with at this time and IMO this one is not doable so I have to take a pass. 

Jay, times they be a changin'. This current mortgage shake up is a good thing in my opinion. It is going to take some adjusting to but the long tern benefits should be worth it. Maybe folks will now concentrate on saving and repairing credit. We'll see.

Hi Shauna, OK your comment has me confused. But good to see ya:)

Thesa, definitely a toad. I thought our homes were ATM machines?

TLW, hey hun. You sure are looking good today:)

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BB,

Just makes me sick.  Remember when I wrote about the bad appraisal?  Jacob, you are right that ultimately most of us create our own destiny.  Some of these people today just don't get it and have never been given a good example of what to do.  In steps the predatory lender/appraiser/agent and it all hits the fan. 

Bryant, she may have found me but I don't and won't go there.  It wouldn't have been my first and it won't be my last time walking away from a "deal" like this.  I sleep just fine at night and I know you do to!

Take care,

Lucky :)

 

5:35pm • #12
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I am tired of people getting taken advantage of Bryant. Should have been more articulate. 

-Jake 

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It's John's fault for sitting on his lazy butt while Sally worked to make some sense out of their multiple mistakes. 

The one crucial fact in any financial scenario is that everyone involved must work. 

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I agree with Lenn.  There may have been a different outcome if the happy, in-love couple would have worked together, but that's life.  If we could figure out what makes one person resilient in a stressful situation while another folds under the pressure, we would all be filthy rich.

Fran

5:55pm • #15
Shauna's the next phase when things go to hell. You know the vulture or hyena that picks the bones clean.
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Broker Bryant, it makes me ill to think of this.  Good post, I reserve my thoughts as for who is to blame.  Not you nor I so far, any others? 
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BB, what a sad story. The reality is we will hear more and more stories like this as times goes on. Hopefully Sally will get her life back on track and forget about the past.
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BB...  what a story.  I admire the fact that you don't add any more BS to her situation.  Too many agents would waste more of their time.  What's done is done...   hopefully she can learn from it and move on. 
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We're seeing more and more of these sad situations....all over (though I am in CA). There is always plenty of blame to go around, but bottom line is BUYERS do your homework. If it sounds to good to be true--price of home or loan terms--it probably is.  I still feel really horrible for these folks, though, losing their homes and credit. SUCKS!  
6:12pm • #20

Jeff,

Here's the deal....  If Sally wants to sell her house, and she wants to do it quickly, and maybe even get market value or above, we might know someone who can help her.  We have no inclination to buy it or host a short sale - hope that helps clear things up a bit.

Bryant - She made money by losing the loafer hubby she was supporting <smile>, and it was a pleasure to see you this fine Saturday as well. 

Toodles

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OK Shauna, I get it now. I'm a little slow today. Unfortunately, getting market value at this point would leave her short a good $35,000 to $40,000. It's a no go all around.
7:05pm • #22

That is a really sad story.  I think there is some basis in the absence of work.  There has to be some income in Paradise as in other places in the world.

There is life after foreclosure.  And without John in the picture, it is not her first dream either.  Too bad she didn't see that before the re-fi and further dips in the market. 

I know a similar couple who were, IMO, lucky that they had to make a sell decision to split the sheets.  That pricey property would have lost air and value and they got out before that happened.

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I'm glad you are being honest with her, it's truly a sad situation when there are and have been so many snakes out there preying on folks who really want to believe they can get something for nothing. 

But I have to agree with Jacob's comment above-while the lender and onsite were liars and crooks, Sally and John must bear some personal responsibility for not verifying the facts before signing on the dotted line.  You know, get a buyer agent or call an attorney or call a friend or whatever.  Our society is notorious for pointing the finger everywhere but inward. 

Bless her heart, it's an expensive lesson to learn.

8:08pm • #24
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Broker Bryant,

This is a story that can be told over and over again with 1000's of names substituted and would be reasonably accurate no matter whos names were inserted. A sad state of affairs to be certain!

What is great is that you gave meaning and purpose to the story and almost a face to the couple that you spoke of. Sadly, this is probably the "Never Ending Story."

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What a sad ending to the story.  I would hate to see my clients in that situation.
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BB, being an 80/20 loan should make the short sale even easier, if it goes to foreclosure the second will get nothing so even if they can get a few thousand now they'll be better off than none later. I feel bad for the couple (woman I guess) but again I think everyone needs to be in control of their own destiny. Mr. Loser husband is mostly to blame but then again relying on someone else is not something I'm comfortable with or understand.

There are so many people in my area in similar & worse situations, its going to get worse too....

 

:(

9:00pm • #27
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I think the primary responsibility for the situation lies with the couple. How could it be otherwise?

Considering the way Bryant has crafted the story we are obviously meant to dislike the lender / agent - or at least question their integrity. There very names tell us that. Presumably they have some responsibility due to their handling of the loan and encouraging (pushing?) the deal.

On the other hand, I don't know of a salesperson I've ever met who wasn't excited about closing a deal. As a consumer, it's my responsibility to protect my welfare. Which includes not entering into agreements I can't (or won't support - video games in front of the TV anyone?).

Does anyone seriously rely on a salesperson to make the best decision for you?

That's not to say agents reading this shouldn't strive to be that kind of person but it's plain foolish as a consumer to expect that person to be worried about your best wishes - especially if you aren't!

This story reminds me of an even more unfortunate series of events from the motorcycle world:

As a superbiek enthusiast, I read about this all too often. A kid walks into the dealership and lays down $11k for one of the highest power to weight ratio vehicles money can buy. Does the kid have the experience to ride a bike? Doubtful. It takes most riders years to properly control a consumer superbike.

So what does the dealer do? Refuse to sell? The customer will go somewhere else. Usually they advise against it so many times but if the kid is persistent they give in. Can you guess what happens next? All too often new riders die. sometimes they are lucky and a lifetime of surgery and skin grafts await.

Last week in the most recent case the guy didn't even make it off the lot. He popped the clutch on 182hp @ 400lbs - the bike just jumped into the wall. Total loss.

Who's fault? Blame the dealer?

I can't.

Ultimately the consumer is responsible for their choices.

Caveat Emptor.

Bryant, thanks for a thought provoking post.

Cheers, -B

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The world of Real Estate is riddled with sad stories. They are always someones fault. There is always someone to hate and someone to feel sorry for. It is just to bad that there are sad stories to begin with.

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God that "crap" gets me pissed.   I have a client same thing.   I sold her the house and its amazing how a home that should have appreciated about 200,000 since I sold it to her in 99' is now maxed out.   How do these finance companies keep lending money?  

 My gal lost her job about 2 years ago.... shortly after taking an equity line for her new sunroom addition and in ground heated pool.   

It was all down hill from there.........ugh ... and just as you said...  there is nothing I can do...      thanks for sharing

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I wish she could have found me Bryant - her life would be so different...it's so sad that people go through this.  Just yesterday we had a lady call us saying she makes $37K a year and is prequalified to buy one of our listings priced at $500K - we were on the phone with her trying to explain the problems with her pre-approval and we hope she understands and looks in her real price range.  We will follow up and hope she listens....if not she'll be another SALLY.
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I truly hope that what goes around, comes around and Needermoney and Lairsloan roast in H-E-double toothpicks!

Yes, it is the clients faults in the end. But who hasn't been young (or old) and vulnerable?  Unfortunately there are too many people out there ready to take advantage of people like these.  I hope they get what is coming to them.

10:10pm • #32

Paradise could just as easily be named Anycityusa.  There are so many people that pulled every last cent of equity that they build up over the growth years that they are not stuck if they need to sell.  It really goes back to how do we teach people about this type of thing.  They make a significant purchase of a home and really have no idea of what that means.  I can say that I was in this same category when I bought my first home.

11:26pm • #33

Bryant, yeah, she's stepped into some guano, and all the blame in the world isn't going to fix it (though it is an excellent discussion and post!).

A short sale will ding her credit and if I understand my mentors correctly (and I know just enough to be dangerous here) it might have tax ramifications as well. A foreclosure will have a bigger ding to her life and credit.  She's better off going another route entirely (as in a short sale, it very well might be more than that amount). 

Our company makes money for sharing brilliant ideas, so I can't post everything I know here, but do call or email me Monday and let's see how the brainstorming goes.  If it's easier, post up, and let me know if I should phone you. 

11:29pm • #34
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Cute story Bryant, in an imaginary kinda way. Too bad that scenario is happening A LOT to real folks in real life. All we can do is help consumers become VERY educated about purchases and sales and the ramifications of both. Great post and very entertaining : )
11:46pm • #35
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This is another of your posts that leaves me scratching my head and saying wow at the same time.
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Thank you for this!  It is so hard to lose perspective each and every day.  We need to CONSTANTLY be reminded to be diligent in finding out WHAT our clients really NEED and make sure we qualify them with the highest of standards.  Commission check be damned!
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The American Dream turned into The American Nightmare.  Too common a story these days. Those dreams ought to have anchors on them.  
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Well good morning everyone. Thanks for all the great comments. This story was shared to help show how these things happen. It's not that the buyers are bad people or stupid, they just get caught up in the situations of life and before you know it BAM! they dug a hole they can't get out of.

I've been there. I know. I had a bankruptcy before I was 30 and had lost 2 properties(rentals) before I was 30. I too got caught up in life's circumstances and made foolish decisions. Fortunately I learned from my failures and was able to build upon them. Hopefully going through this will make Sally a stronger person.

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Read me another story BB - please........  This is a good one and we probably all have had similar things happen to customers.  Sometimes there's only so much you can do to enlighten people. We had a gal that was selling her childhood home due to a divorce.  She allowed her ex-husband to buy her out, a month later called us to tell us she was engaged and wanting to go look at homes.  We took her and her new beau out and bam they bought a little creampuff at the height of the market.  Two months later they broke up and wanted to sell the place.  Unfortunately they thought the public should pay for the furniture they bought to furnish their new love nest.  She also smoked like a feind and had two large dogs.  It was a creampuff when she bought it but, well, let your imagination run wild.  Needless to say, she's on her third listing agent.  We felt very bad for her situation but told her from the start the facts but she chose to keep her tinted (rose) glasses on.  Sorry.  Didn't mean to tell a whole other story.  Got carried away.  Loved your story and picture.  Thanks for sharing.
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So they bought the home in early 2005 and made the payments until early 2006 when John left or at least once their relationship started coming apart. I'm not defending a lender who uses stated documentation programs incorrectly and/or illegally. However, their fate has more to do with John sitting on the sofa playing playstation on his plasma instead of working. As your story puts it, they had 6 months of payments in savings to afford the move and to look for new jobs.

Why are lenders or realtors for that matter responsible for people's stupidity in life decisions? When loans default in the first 4 months....there's no doubt it was a bad loan. But I don't care if you use full documentation of income and assets, if people don't pay the loan, quit their jobs and sit on their duff....how is that the mortgage or real estate professionals fault?

Are we to be psychic? Should we have somehow seen Sally's future for her? Last time I checked, pre-marital counseling wasn't a mortgage qualifier. I have to agree with an earlier comment that said these stories are just getting tiresome. For those of us that care dearly for our profession, do you expect us to apologize for something here? What response do you hope for from a mortgage professional reading this? 

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Ken, Let me ask you this. These folks got 100% financing on a no doc loan on a house in another state when they didn't even have jobs there. Does that sound legally doable? I'm not blaming anyone. But I can assure you that loan fraud was rampant in my market in 2004 and 2005. And frankly it pisses me off. My market is currently paying big time for all the greed of LOs, Realtors, builders and the stupidity of disillusioned buyers and so called "investors" that spent too much time watching late night info commercials. Mix all these together in a booming market and chaos results.

I agree with you 100% that these stories are getting tiresome. I hear them everyday. Tiresome or not it's reality. I'm not placing blame, I'm presenting fact. The ones who are guilty know who they are and they don't need me to point it out to them.

Actually I don't feel sorry for Sally or John in any way. But I do feel sorry for my 80 year old sellers who can't sell their house, that they have owned for 10 years, right now, because the market is satiated with flips that flopped and foreclosures that are have brought the values crashing down. Out of the 1700 homes on the market in Poinciana, 700 are less than 2 years old.  I feel sorry when an 80 year old man has to go to work every night to try and stay on top his mortgage payment because his house won't sell. Not because it's over priced but because you can't sell a 10 year old house in my market. Too many brand new foreclosures on the market. So really it doesn't matter who's to blame. It is what it is. And it still pisses me off. 

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BTW, "What response do I want from a mortgage professional reading this?" How about an admission that there are many mortgage professionals that are ripping people off, just as there are REALTORS(R) doing the same thing. How about suggestions on what can be done to tighten up licensing laws or educational requirements? In fact in Florida I don't even think you have to have a license to originate mortgages. 

Ken, I know you don't conduct your business this way BUT there are many that do. Hopefully the consumer will read posts like this and maybe just maybe it will prompt them to do their homework and to take purchasing a home more serious. That why I write these posts. 

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Shauna: Jeff we don't do short sales. Then you post hinting at a short sale. You are clear as mud.
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Sad story, Bryan, and one we continue to see repeated over and over. Lots of folks have gotten in over their heads because of unscrupulous loan officers, builders, and agents. And, yes, some buyers just made poor decisions, armed with little to no information and, perhaps, not knowing who to turn to to get advice.

Jeff

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I'd comment on why people are so irresponsible with their lives and finances, but I've got to go - only 167 miles to the state line so I can get my twenty-five Super Ultra Mega-Bucks Lottery Tickets.  That 320 Million is mine!

Oops, I'm on "E" - got any gas money? 

11:23am • #46

BB, I know another pissed off Realtor.....the seller's agent for the house I just bought.  :)  We entered into contract today.  I gave on closing date to accomodate his needs and the seller, reluctantly conceded price.  Don't worry, both agent and seller are still alive after the negotiations.....a bit bruised, but breathing.  We countered and countered and countered late into the night.  Keep 'em up and wear 'em down!

Once the agents I've been working with in other states find out, I'll get a thank you note for ending their torture and not moving to their community.

 

Stan
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I feel sorry when an 80 year old man has to go to work every night to try and stay on top his mortgage payment because his house won't sell. Not because it's over priced but because you can't sell a 10 year old house in my market.

On that point, you and I agree fully. The true victims are Sally and John's neighbors.

How about an admission that there are many mortgage professionals that are ripping people off, just as there are REALTORS(R) doing the same thing. How about suggestions on what can be done to tighten up licensing laws or educational requirements? In fact in Florida I don't even think you have to have a license to originate mortgages. 

I can't make that admission because I don't believe it to be true. There just aren't "many" mortgage professionals ripping people off. It's just that the bad story always gets more publicity then the ones where everything goes according to plan. If John had gotten off the couch, gotten a job and stayed with Sally they wouldn't be behind on the mortgage and Sally wouldn't be trying to sell before the foreclosure happens. Who would be writing about the loan program or loan officer then?

BB, we more often agree then disagree and perhaps I'm just being too specific about this one scenario.  

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Stan, Congrats man!!!! I know this has been quite the journey for you. Let me now when it closes:)

Ken, I think it's more of a case of different perspectives from different markets. Your area and my area are definitely different. I know you are one of the good guys. Want to move to Florida? We could use more guys like you here. OK a little later this week I'm going to write a positive story on mortgage brokers. I'm just going to have to dig through my closed files to find one:)   

 

3:13pm • #49

I was one of those consumers who called on an ad that said....Own a home for the price of rent...only $350 down.  I purchased my home in 2002 and I did in fact only pay $350 and $51 at closing. Wow!!! I read and read my loan documents, made sure that I knew every little detail.  Then in 2004, I refinanced. Being a smart consumer, I only refinance the original amount plus 13,500 in equity. I got a great rate and pay my mortgage faithfully. In fact both my husband and I work two jobs to pay the mortgage. The part that is hard for me is that I am one of the sellers that really needs to sell...but because of all the foreclosures in my area, I can't sell!  Or people read that the market is soooo bad they think that I will give my house away.....well that is not going to happen. I agree that the consumer needs to educate themselves, but they also need to know who they are working with. I did a lot of research before I decided that Broker Bryant was the man that would be honest and help me sell in this difficult market.

 

Caligal
6:06pm • #50
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Hey CaliGal, Do you want to just keep hanging out on my Blog and saying good things about me?? I might just have to give you a commission dis..........OUCH! That was TLW slapping me upside the head!!!! OK OK just kidding honey....man that was painful:)
10:23am • #51
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Cali...

I put a hurtin' on him. LOL. Do you know his head was swollen before you came in here?

Know what I did? I stuck a pin in his head. POP. It was gross. LOL.

TLW...ROAR!

2:18pm • #52
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...And that's one of the reasons you love me :)

TLW...ROAR!

2:36pm • #54
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Cali...

Blog Boy (Broker Bryant) asked me to share this you tube video with you. Why?

He wants you to have an idea of what he has to deal with every day :)

<Want To Do This To Someone You Know>

TLW...ROAR!

2:50pm • #55
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enjoyed this post and the thread of comments to follow. its good stuff through and through, on many levels. enjoyed the night time story (as Lisa puts it), enjoyed the underlying points (and Jay mentions), enjoyed the mortgage brokers getting riled up or was that BB?..even a testimonial in there somewhere. :) Florida was an animal all in itself in those years.. but appraisal orders were rampant. ahh yes. now i'm reminiscing.. Bryant.. great post! (can i still say that and mean it). only to wrap it up and come back to reality with TLW's vid of a squashed head! yikes!
4:47pm • #56

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