I was contacted by a Fellow Christian who has been helping Homeowners payoff all of their debt in 10 - 12 years instead of a normal 30 year term thru a company called United First Financial.

I have always told my clients to pay ahead on their mortgages and take advantage of the Bi-Weekly payment schedule that comes directly out of their bank account and allows them to pay an extra payment each year to Principal resulting in reducing their 30 year term to about 18 years on average.

I have been asked by some of my Realtors about UFirst in the past few months so I decided to sit in on a webinar about it, but I wasn't convinced it was the right vehicle to sell to my clients - especially for $3500.

However, today it was presented to me in a fresh new way by the Fellow Christian who is a Branch Manager with UFirst that almost made sense. With their Money Merge Program, you pay all of your income into your Home Equity Line of Credit  (HELOC) and pay your bills out of your HELOC as well -whatever is left over - say $1000 for example is suggested by the Money Merge Account system to pay down the Principal on your debts (including your HELOC) each month.Dave Ramsey

For those of you who read my posts -especially my last one - you know that I usually agree with Dave Ramsey - a Christian Financial Counselor who preaches that you can get out of debt yourself thru his Financial Peace University program (which is only $149) that basically has you use a cash envelope budget system that your Grandparents always used to discipline yourself to acheive a Debt-Free life.

Dave Ramsey has made it no secret that he believes the UFirst Program does everything you can do yourself but charges you $3500 to do it - and the UFirst Branch Manager brought that out into the open during his presentation today. The Branch Manager says that Dave Ramsey just hasn't taken the time to understand how the program really works.

Here's where you come in - Have any of you used this program or sold this program to your clients?

Come on now - Don't be shy. I would like my Active Rain Family and readers to help me out by letting me know their experiences - good or bad - so I can honestly tell my Realtors if this is the way to Pay Off your Mortgage early or should you get disciplined and do it yourself like Grandma and Grandpa did?

 
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14 Comments on To Sell UFirst or Not To Sell?

SEP
09
2008

I haven't heard of it (have heard of Dave Ramsey) but would be very reluctant to advise my clients on anything that could have the potential to be a "scheme" and would cost them $3,500 and maybe you more later on.  I would leave that one alone.  Many people/groups are hanging the Christian name on money making ventures now, theirs.

6:28pm • #1
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Sheila - that was my first thought too -especially when you can do it yourself with some discipline.

 

6:30pm • #2
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Come on folks -don't leave me hangin' i gotta go eat Supper soon :D

6:37pm • #3

Brian,

Thanks for the post. I am just hearing about from your post. Also great to see you here in the Rain!.

6:48pm • #4

Brian, I have also heard the UFirst pitch.  Sounds like a good plan, but I do think it's a bit pricy.  I personally did not think it was right for me, however I have talked to people that love it.  I am not familiar enough with it to form much more of an opinion than that.  My only question is what would happen if the unexpected happened, any life changing event that forces a relocation, when truth be told the program is probably more practical for somebody who plans not to move ever again.  Then you have a mortgage, plus a HELOC to get paid off.  Scary to me

7:23pm • #5

Brian,

I invested the time to learn the program.  I became an UFirst agent but never sold the product.  I took their training to learn the product.  I spent more on books in college.  Let' say I am a knowledge hound. 

Anyway, Dave Ramsey is right.  You can do the program yourself without paying the $3,500.  The $3,500 is the reason I couldn't in good conscience sell this program to people.  The math of the Money Merge Account is beautiful.  It makes perfect sense. 

But the software is just an aid and should be offered for less.  If the company truly wanted to help people they would have offered the software for less and choose a different marketing program.  The Multi-level marketing decision that UFirst made has made the program appears to be a scheme and made the software more expensive than it need be.

9:49pm • #6
SEP
10
2008
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Brian, Like Jimmy I spent time learning the program, signed up as an agent, but never sold it.  I stumbled onto the program when I called a fellow Realtor about another company that he had been involved with.  He told me, "I never could do anything with the other company, but let me tell you about this great new company...."

To make a long story short (too late!) I showed it to Realtor and Mortgage contacts, but no one showed any real interest, so I let it go. 

The Realtor who showed the program to me became a 'Branch Manager' and told me he has made some substantial money with it, but I think he probably spends about 20 hours a day selling it.  His son now runs the real estate part of their office.

6:21am • #7
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Good morning! I'm always leery of any network marketing company (U-First is one) as they're expensive (witness the $3500 software package) and their goal is to build a downline. In theory the concept is good. But that can also be accomplished with a little discipline by paying more towards your principal. Have a great day!

 

Paul

7:21am • #8
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Marc - I had not thought about having to move because of job or health with this program -that does put a different spin on it -Thanks.

Jimmy and Charlie - Thank you -It is very helpful to hear from you guys since you have actually taken the plunge and know this program didn't work out for you or your clients - Thanks Again

Paul - I agree with you - people who have the discipline can definitley do this themselves for free.

8:48am • #9
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Is there anyone who can share how the UFirst Program was very successful for them & their clients?

8:50am • #10
SEP
11
2008

it's been a few days now, I guess we have our answer!

12:17pm • #11
SEP
18
2008

Brian,

Yes I have recommened Dave Ramsey to several of my customers and clients. His strategy is simple and anyone can do it. As I've learned some people can't do things on their own. Once someone pays money for a service they will follow through. Does this make sense??

12:23pm • #12
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Marc -I think you are correct - we have our answer.

Pamela - makes perfect sense - they don't own the action unless they have put money on the line for it. Thanks for stopping by.

12:49pm • #13
OCT
07
2008

Brian, My cousins, both very "frugal" gentlemen are doing the UFirst.  The oldest actually selling the software to the youngest!  They are both doing wonderfully.  I on the other hand, for only $93.00  took the Dave Ramsey, Financial Peace University classes at our church and I must agree with all who say that if you are disciplined enough, you can accomplish the same end with the less expensive means.  In my opinion - and that is all it is, an opinion - both work, but not if you lack self-discipline.  Self-discipline happens to be something that I am constantly working on, so you can imagine why I think that, for me anyway, spending only $93.00 was the best way to go!!!

Have an awesome day!

Nyana - Office Manager, Barbara Kehl Realty

6:21pm • #14

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