Certified Mortgage Notary Signing Agent having client Signing DeedToday, I went to an assignment in Sarasota, Florida from a lady visiting from IL. With her, she brought paperwork that basically amounted to a sale of her property (although not quite - but that is an unimportant detail for this blog) and in addition to a lot of the typical sale/purchase paperwork, included a deed.  A very specific deed, and again the exact type is irrelevant for this discussion.  Included were instructions to her, as well as instructions to the notary in how they wanted the paperwork done.

One of the very first things I noticed was in bold lettering "do not complete date in body of deed."  I explained to her that in FL, I MUST complete this, as nothing could be altered or changed after my notarization seal and signature were affixed.  But she saw no problem anyway, as it did not appear to be in the 'body' of the deed. (see below description)  There was also a place for me to Acknowledge with the date acknowledged before me etc., in the notarial wording section.  But just to check on the instructions, she called the company that generated the documents.  To give you an idea the 3 page DEED document looked like this:

DEED

Body of deed..........Page 1

Body of deed..........Page 2

last paragraph of deed ...Page 3....then the following

Dated this ______ day of _____________, 2008

Customer Signature Line ______________________

Notarial wording, location, etc. and date for my notarization as well.

The person CLEARLY stated this section above her signature was what they were referencing, and it was NOT to be filled in.  I explained to him, according to FL law, I MUST complete it or I could not complete the notarization, as it would not be valid.  Now understand one VERY IMPORTANT THING HERE - This may NOT be required in ALL states, but it IS required in FL.  I also called one of my help lines to get the exact statute number of the law, and while on the phone with them asked if it was also required in IL, where this document was generated, and I was told it IS required there as well.  This is why it is so important notaries out there to KNOW and FOLLOW your state guidelines as I have no doubt many even in this gentleman's home state of IL, that many follow their instructions, BUT that can invalidate the notarization, and then you can have a tremendous court battle at that time.  Honestly, the woman stated, "if that is your law and you must do that, then that is fine with me."  But some are not so understanding, and would insist you not following your state laws.  However, it is IMPERATIVE that you KNOW and DO follow your state laws, as that can lead to troubles down the road, no matter what instructions you are given, your state laws supersede instructions from title/escrow/attorney, etc.  

I am not sure what they are going to do when they get the paperwork, but I know my notarization will stand up to any court challenge, as I followed state law.  I have no doubt they might alter it, or re-execute another deed, but that is not my concern as I obeyed all my state laws.  If they don't follow laws, they run the risk, whatever risk that may be.  I also made this woman aware IL state law has the same requirement about a completed document when notarized.  I can't worry about what they do afterwards, but I did note my journal what happened, and if there ever is a court challenge, and it is the same document and it has been altered, someone else will face court sanctions, not me!

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7 Comments on Notaries: To Complete Or Instructions Not To Complete

SEP
09
2008

Way to go Roanld, CYA, everyday in everyway.

 Good for protecting yourself and your customer. ( I wonder what they were up too? )

9:03pm • #1
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Honestly Toni, I don't think any improper actions were/are intended on their part, BUT, proper or improper is not for me to determine or decide.  My REQUIREMENT is to follow state law, NOT their instructions.  And that is what is so imperative for ALL notaries to understand.  BTW, Dan, it is my understanding in SOME states leaving this blank would actually be OK, but not in FL, and not where this document was generated, IL.  So it is important for notaries to KNOW their state laws!

Thanks for stopping by & commenting! 

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9:10pm • #2

I am with you...do the right thing!

9:14pm • #3
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Ronald, your duty is to obey what the responsibilities of a notary requires. After all, you took an oath - at least I did many years ago when I was a notary. ;-)

Pepper

11:32pm • #4
SEP
10
2008
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Gail, thanks for stopping by!  Teri, EXACTLY my point!  The notaries duty is to first obey the law, and even though like I said to Toni  above, I honestly do not think or feel any wrong-doing was intended or implied, BUT that is not for me to determine, I MUST abide by my state laws.  And every notary should KNOW their state laws, or rely upon services such as the ASN or NNA for guidance when dealing with uncertain or unfamiliar notarial laws.  Thanks for stopping by & commenting! 

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9:16am • #5
JAN
28

GREAT!

Thank you for standing the ground of right as oppossed to wrong and maintaining not only your integrity but the integrity of all notaries out here.

12:17pm • #6
MAR
08

Ronald

Great post. Here in Michigan we have the same rule, you may not notarize any document wih blank spaces.

I can't imagine any state would allow that for the very reason you stated, what changes can be made after the dated of notarization?

5:31pm • #7

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