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IT'S BEEN A ROCKY 2-3 YEARS.   Many real estate agents are working twice as hard for 1/2 the money, and they're the lucky ones.   Many loan officers spend weeks documenting, getting approvals only to have a loan denied funding the day before closing.  No one ever really learns why but the implecation is always that the borrower didn't qualify for one reason or another, more documentation, more money to close, house in wrong location.  I love that last one, house in wrong location.  A few years ago, many of these loans would have been approved and worthy home buyers would be moved in to their newly purchased dream home and making payments timely.

WHAT HAPPENED?  PERHAPS THERE IS JUST NO LOAN PRODUCT TO FIT THE NEEDS OF TODAY'S BORROWERS. 

REMEMBER THE ALT-A?  A LOAN PRODUCT REVIVED FOR A NEW MARKET.  When did we first learn of the Alt-A loan?  Seems to me it was sometime in 2002-2003, although I'm not sure.  I got an e-mail from a loan officer with whom I had done a lot of business over the previous 10 years. 

Lenn
Contact me about a the Alt-A loan product.
Alt-A loans will help buyers with good credit without income documentation.

The Alt-A was not a sub-prime PRODUCT.  The loans were purchased by Fannie Mae.  They met a need for consumers who "didn't quite fit the traditional loan PRODUCT". 

Interesting, I thought.  Goodness, this loan product must have been designed for some of our home buyers.  In the previous few months, we had prospective home buyers interested in taking advantage of falling interest rates but who couldn't document sufficient income to qualify for the price range in which they wished to buy.  These buyers were either self employed contractors, business owners, sole proprietors, private duty nurses, software company partners, tipped workers, etc.  Many of these borrowers had been offered sub-prime loans because they couldn't adequately document their income.  These buyers were almost all self employed, some with incomes to qualify at conforming rates or FHA but didn't want to pay the high mortgage payments with the sub-prime rates.   The Alt-A loan PRODUCT was meant for this group of home buyers.

Primarily credit-score driven, the Alt-A loan product alleviated the limitations and due diligence headaches associated with documentation as well as assets and income verification. Translation:  If the credit score was high enough, the loan would be approved.  The borrower would pay a premium of 1/8 to 1/2% for the same interest rate, but they could buy their dream home.  Actuarial models had proven over and over again that borrowers with sufficiently high credit scores, 720 or above, were good risk borrowers.  WHAT?  No due diligence on the part of the loan officer/lender/investor???  Exactly.  The interesting thing about the Alt-A and similar loan products is that the guidelines do not require that the loan officer/lender/underwriter show that the borrower have the ability to repay the loan.  Such a deal! Head in Sand

Of course, we know what happened.  The guys on Wall Street got greedy and designed a series of loan PRODUCTS that would permit more and ever more buyers to "qualify" but who didn't have to demonstrate the ability to repay.  As long as Fannie Mae would buy the loans, bundle loans, chop them up and sell them to ever widening pools of big monied investors; investment bankers, hedge funds, sovereign wealth funds, etc., who knew that, as long as the American home owner continued to make their mortgage payment, their mortgage backed security was a safe investment. 

Alt-A Loans are defaulting left and right. 

What a difference 3 years make.  When home prices increased almost 100% in 4 years, the entire House of Cardslandscape of home buying and mortgage lending changes.  

  • Folks who wanted to sell could not.
  • Folks who wanted to buy could not.
  • Mortgage brokers lost investors.
  • Mortgage companies tightened guidelines.
  • Fannie Mae ran out of money. 

YOUR LOAN IS NOT APPROVED!!  An interesting thing happened when Fannie Mae ran out of money.  Rather than admitting their incompetence and perfidy, they severely tightened the mortgage loan guidelines in an attempt to shift the blame for the lack of mortgage funding ability to the consumer borrower.  Loan officers were caught in the middle.   They knew the borrower met the guidelines when the buyers were approved.  The guidelines had become a moving target.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ,who were experiencing monumental losses, falsified their  to be able to continue to borrow at advantageous rates to continue to buy loans on which no one had established the ability of the home owner to make their mortgage payments.  Of course, those same falsified financials permitted the Director, Franklin Raines, of Fannie Mae to receive multi-million bonuses. 

In 2004, $100,000 income qualified the average home buyer for a mortgage loan of about $525,000.  Many home buyers could qualify for 80/20 loans with $ZERO down payment.  As long as the credit score was high enough, a family could buy their dream home and qualify for a loan LTV of about 30-35% and often higher.  No longer did the ratios have to meet the traditional 28/36 test.  Millions of families took advantage of the liberal qualifying requirements.  Real estate agents sold a lot of real estate.  "Ah!  I remember it well." 

In 2007, $100,000 income qualified the average home buyer for a mortgage loan of about $400,000.     Not only did the 2007 home buyer qualify for a much lower mortgage due to rising interest rates, the homes had increased in price almost 100% between 2002 and 2006.   The 4 bedroom Single Family Colonial on a 1/4 acre that was available in 2003 with a $100,000 income was now a 3 bedroom Town Home for the same $100,000 income.  Not only that, the buyers needed a down payment and a higher credit score to qualify for any loan.  Not only that, many buyers were pre-qualified, qualified, pre-approved, approved, provided a loan commitment, etc. only to find out 2 days before closing that their loan was not funded and their broker couldn't find an investor.  Or, they got to the settlement table and found out that they needed another $4,000-$10,000 to close.  Why does everyone look at the real estate agent when that happens??

The above does not compare identical loan instruments because many of the loan instruments available in 2003 no longer existed in 2007.  Home buyers are often less interested in loan types than the monthly mortgage payment.  I love the American home buyer, but I do not give them any credit for understanding market value or mortgage loan products.  The consumer is focused on the monthly payment.  When it is low they know they can make it.  The fact that the payment will increase substantially is rarely the focus of the borrower.  They fully intend to refinance out of the ARM but need it to qualify to buy their dream home today.  There's a bit of Scarlet O'Hara in most of us.   The American consumer is also very optomistic and very trusting of mortgage professionals.  They have to be.  They don't understand what is happening.  Just give me my house!

WAIT, IT GETS WORSE!  For the first time in the history of the real estate market, not only did the home buyer / borrower have to qualify for the loan, so too did the property.  Remember the "DECLINING MARKET SYNDROME"?   Homes in some neighborhoods that had declined in market value or were thought to have the potential of declining in value at some unknown time in the unknown future, THROUGH A PROCESS OF DEVALUATION, were denied appraisals and the loan was denied. 

This was the most illogical force in mortgage lending in my memory since racial red lining. 

By about late 2006 to early 2007, home buyers looked at what they were qualified to buy and said "I don't want that piece of junk".   They stayed where they were and are just now coming back to look at the market, albeit, very, very slowly and with a lot of trepidation. 

Sure, it was a buying frenzy.  Prices were going up.  Interest rates were going down and, suddenly, families realized that it was an opportunity to buy in that great school district or buy that wonderful 4,500 square foot home that they had dreamed about for many years.  If they didn't buy now, they might not be able to next year.  Of course, there were many buyers who purchased with the clear intention of reselling immediately following settlement.  Not a small percentage of these investment buyers were in the real estate industry. 

WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED?  A few things come to mind.

Just as car manufacturers design new vehicle models to respond to consumer demand, the mortgage industry designs mortgage products to respond to market changes.  Innovation is a good thing.  New products and new ideas fuel the engine of free enterprise.  However, in light of the disaster that is the real estate industry and mortgage industry today, in the future, I suspect that most of us will be just a bit more careful, run those numbers, and if a buyer doesn't appear to qualify and show the ability to repay their mortgage loan, let them know it.  Mortgage providers will advertise to attract buyers with attractive rates and terms.  Let's face it, REG. Z doesn't do much to protect the consumer.  Show them the numbers for today and also for 3 years from now.  Run that amortization table.  It's an eye opener for many prospective home buyers.   

Courtesy, Lenn Harley, Broker, Homefinders.com. 


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44 Comments on LENN HAD AN EPIPHANY THIS MORNING. They are not just loans, they are mortgage "PRODUCTS".

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2008

Wonderful post Lenn.  We have a mortgage on a beach property that I know for a fact I could not get today.  I cant sell it so we just hold on.  No trips. My tv broke today and we didn't rush and buy a new one. 

What a crazy time! 

10:46am • #1
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A wonderful post, an analogy of the past few years in mortgage-home-buying land.  I especially love the sentence.. "The guys on Wall Street got greedy and designed a series of loan PRODUCTS"  I believe I recently heard that as the cause of gasoline price rising so rapidly .. wall street and the traders speculating on the future.  We as a nation can not speculate on our nations financial grow .. we need to be cautious and reasonable and stop the escalating and speculating in futures.. be it mortgage money or gasoline prices.   Oh heck. I am not an economist either, maybe I should shutup! ( I am not against Wall Street or trading ... but out of reason speculation?  I don't have an answer.. just more questions).

10:46am • #2

I think it is time they get back to the foundation of lending and they are. FHA, VA, USDA are all going to have a huge place in lending over the next many many years

10:47am • #3

Just as car manufacturers design new vehicle models to respond to consumer demand, the mortgage industry designs mortgage products to respond to market changes.  Innovation is a good thing.  New products and new ideas fuel the engine of free enterprise. 

Hi Lenn,

All of that is true.  However, if I may use a car analogy, some of us would prefer to stick with a tried and true '57 Chevy.  :)

Cordially,

Bruce

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10:49am • #4

Lenn:  Great job.  We all love it when you get an "epiphany".

I especially love your quote "New products and new ideas fuel the engine of free enterprise."  It will be interesting to see what the Banker's come up with next...

Tomorrow's another day, Scarlett.   It would be wonderful if everyone got to save their "Tara".  

Your suggestion that we run the numbers first is a great idea.  Amortization schedules can be a true eye-opener.

10:55am • #5
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Lenn,

I won't even called them products...I'd call them food that spoils very quick if left out too long:)

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I am pleased to say that our company got out of that Alt-A and sub-prime industry prior to the fall out.  A correspondent needs to guarantee two things.  First that they can underwite according to the guidelines and second, that the loan will perform.  We got out of that segment of the industry about 8 months prior to the collapse because we could underwrite, but we couldn't guarantee that the loans would perform.  THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.  So when the industry collapsed, CW and American Home all went south, but we're shined so well.  None of those products here.

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When I explain what has happened to our market I always use "loan products" to help explain it.  It makes it tangible for people to understand!

Another way ALT-A fueled our housing market wasn't necessarily through the self employed but through the tipped workers whose compliances were far below what they really brought in!  Price corrections were then necessary so tipped income workers could fall within income underwriting guidelines.

In early 2007, People wanted to buy but couldn't as a product that used to be there was discontinued!

12:16pm • #9
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Lenn:  As always, a well-though out post with lots of good analysis of fact and detail.  I agree with you that so much has changed in the mortgage industry, that now there are almost no approvals for loans where two years ago there were almost no rejections.  That trend will have to turn around (and for our sake, I hope soon!), so innovative new products will be the next moves to improve the market and I expect that to happen soon.  Of course the new innovative products will have to work their way through the underwriting cycle which will not be easy.  I hope we never, ever again see the laxity that has taken place in the last 4 years with loan approvals...  But...  We all know that history tends to repeat...  As Yogi Berra once said "Deja vu, all over again!"  Who knows?

12:17pm • #10
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Well, I know I'm a lot smarter now than a few years ago when we thought the market was never going to go down. hard lessons for lots of us.

12:29pm • #11

The reason for current denials is mostly a lenders trepidation of the current status of values in the marketplace..... not that the borrower can't make the payment... but that they will walk away from the house if the house goes down in value..... the first calculation that we mortgage lenders do is loan to value..... if the value is going to go down in an area where people are buying.... then the lender is no more interested in making a loan than the buyer should be in buying the house.

And who says that everyone looks at the real estate agent when that happens????? you keep coming back to the basic theme that everyone is trying to blame you for something..... and why do you keep coming up with posts about loans???? some of your dates and chronological stories are a little incorrect..... in any event, the lenders were lenient because values were going up.... and now they are strict because values are going down.... it really is that simple.

Hopefully we are getting to a correct evaluation of home prices and that will help this whole thing shake out... good luck!! 

jennifer lamm
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The government for years has had policies designed to make more people eligible for mortgages despite the underlying risks.  Now the chickens are coming home to roost.  The taxpayers will be responsible for the Fannie & Freddie bailout, and excellent borrowers are being punished.

1:41pm • #13
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Lenn

Not only is there tightening credit, but don't you expect  the number of lenders  to decline even further which will lead to a further decline in loan "products"?

Louis

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Katie.  Goodness.  Any real estate practitioner who hasn't cut back on spending must live in La La Land.  The ones I know who usually took vacations still are.  Habits haven't changed.  What they fail to understand is that if, during their absence, they lose a good buyer opportunity, they have lost many $Thousands of Dollars.  Most of the agents I know are taking less expensive vacations, but the business doesn't wait for them.  Vacations cost more than the cost of the cruise or trip.  They cost lost business.

Gail.  I'm not an economist either, but I know that the cost of gasoline is in no way tied to the cost of production. 

Edward.  It does my heart good to see one of our buyers use a VA loan.  For some years, we had a hard time even getting a VA buyer's contract presented. 

Bruce.  Oh shucks.  Those old rattle traps broke down all the time.  Good Grief, a 1974 still used leaded gasoline. 

Jan.  An amortization schedule is a must for my buyers.  It helps them compare loans. 

Neal.  Good one.  I have very good friends in the mortgage business.  I know when a buyers is steered to a particular loan the reasons why.

Larry.  You're fortunate.  So many lenders are still trying to sell loans but with no hope of closing. 

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Renee.  Thanks. I just added "tipped workers"  You're right. 

Steve.  How often did you have a buyer Fannie Mae DU approved with a 45-55 ratio??  Sometimes without the need for docs.  I remember it well.  I had one buyer approved with DU with 58 ratio and she was on workers' comp.  Fact is, she had a 870 credit score.  She also made her payments and we always knew she would.  But, it just showed me what could get approved. 

Missy.  I believe that we all knew the market was going to go down, we just didn't know it would come down with such a THUD!  I guess I saw it in the spring of 2005 and I got busy and sold that 55 year old home in Bethesda and built my new one.  I'm not always that prescient, but once homes got out of the reach of the average buyer here, I knew it was over. 

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Jennifer.  In my experience, most home buyers are looking for a home and not an investment.  It is the lender that is looking for a safe investment in buyers.  How did that work out for them???  We've got an entire population of home owners who know that their home is worth about 2/3 of what they paid for them.  That doesn't cause them to walk away.  The ones who walk away are just using value as an excuse.

Whom does the buyer and seller and listing agent look to for money when someone is short at the settlement table?  The real estate agent.  Doesn't work with me but it works with a lot of agents.  They will give up $Thousands to close because they need what they can get.

The agents are included in the "blame game" for the mortgage mess from many.  I don't agree, but it's there. 

I write about loans because I can.  Mortgage loans are an integral part of what I do and I write about them because they produce good conversation from both mortgage and real estate practitioners.  I would ask, why do you care??

I disagree that lenders are strict because "values are going down".  They are strict because the liquidity in the mortgage market has dried up.  Many ActiveRain mortgage brokers have written about their experiences not being able to close loans with qualified buyers and undervalued properties. 

We're down to about 1994 valuations and loans are still hard to fund. 

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Brian.  You're right about that.  All the government has to do is require a MIP sufficient to cover the losses of the "social loans" and everything would be fine.  The government forces mortgage companies to make risky loans and then turns around and makes it hard for all borrowers to qualify. 

Louis.  Will it??  I believe that the reduction in home sales will get rid of some marginal producers, but not tightening credit.  Of course, I could be wrong.  I still believe that liquidity is the problem.  Tightening credit requirements simply takes the spotlight off the real problems.

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Lenn,

You are a gifted writer--Need I say anthing else--Thanks for an informative post.

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What a great overview of the past years of our mortgage market.  Do you remember in the early 1990's when we had "review appraisals" about a week before closing.  Those were nail-bitter days as well.  I haven't had enough closings recently to really know what is happening but judging from our BOM numbers I'm guessing loans are challenging here too.

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Lenn, I believe Alt-A will be the next batch of foreclosures starting very soon. 2009 is going to be brutal. I remember back in the early and mid 80s when rates were as high as 18% lenders were throwing money at us. So the recent boom certainly wasn't the first time that money was easy to get and it won;t be the last time either.  

Did I read today that rates are below 6% again? I think I also saw that seller funded DPA programs may be allowed again for folks with high credit scores. So lenders are already making positive adjustments. It's just going to take them awhile to find the sweet spot.

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Thanks Diane B.  I merely write what I am thinking. 

Diane A.  We're having review appraisals for Jumbo loans.  I haven't seen any on other loans.  Of course, the conforming is a moving target but for now, it's O.K.

Bryant.  No doubt if the rates continue to come down, buying activity will pick up.  However, we have a good two years inventory to clean up.  Of course, as soon as money becomes available, the builders will be back out. 

6:04pm • #22
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"Will it??  I believe that the reduction in home sales will get rid of some marginal producers, but not tightening credit.  Of course, I could be wrong.  I still believe that liquidity is the problem.  Tightening credit requirements simply takes the spotlight off the real problems."

Lenn

If the banks inevitably tighten credit standards, fewer loans will be made. Perhaps if the major lenders keep tight credit standards that might open the door for other companies to take on riskier loans

However,  even if interest rates remain low, many potential homebuyers may not be able to take advantage of them if credit standards are tight.  

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We have to understand it is typical for most of us to be optimistic and want more for our families and the mortgage lenders found a way and everyone was happy until recent events when they could not pay or would not pay for a home that is now not worth what they owe one . Yes I hope we learn for this event but I'm afraid in 15 years we will have a new crop of lenders and buyers and it will happen again unless we put protections in place.

9:15pm • #24

I suspect that most of us will be just a bit more careful, run those numbers, and if a buyer doesn't appear to qualify and show the ability to repay their mortgage loan, let them know it.

You have much more faith in your industry than I do.

 

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Lenn, you covered a lot here, so I will only comment on a couple of your points.  Yes many loan programs that were available even a year ago, are not available today, so we have to work a little harder to get Borrowers approved for a loan.  Many of these changes happened over night and without any warning.  But one thing did not change, and that is once a loan is underwritten and committed, there is no reason for it to have the rug pulled out from under neath it, if all the conditions listed on it were met before the Closing Date.  All conditions are know and written in black and white on the Commitment Letter the day the loan is committed, which in most cases is a couple of weeks before the Closing.  So there should not be any surprises just before or on the day of the Closing, unless that is the loan was never really committed in the first place, and no Commitment Letter issued.

9:28pm • #26
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I just participated on a GE underwriting webinar that made very similar points. We have too look at what is best for the customer in the long run. We includes the buyer as well as the professionals involved in the transaction.

Richard

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Lenn, great post as always and you've really nailed the history leading up to this current mess. The problem I had during this craziness, aside from rubber stamped loan approvals, was that buyers refused to use common sense. That big house came with big bills that many refused to think about. I think that's called denial!

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Lenn,luckily I have a very good Lender who is honest and has told buyers for years if they should wait and buy later. Those folks have not lost their homes or been compromised by their loans. I personally think we had quite a few people in the loan industry who needed or wanted to make a quota at the risk of the buyer.

Although there were certainly those buyers who intentionally knew what they were doing, they weren't the ones giving or making the loans.  I do hope that we have all learned some valuable lessons so that this economy does not have to suffer again to this extent.

These are some pretty hard lessons.  And yes, I am one of those that is working 5 x's harder for a 1/3 of the money but at least I'm working.

11:32pm • #29
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14
2008

Good morning, Lenn. 

Congratulations on breaking the Half Million Points barrier!

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Gena.  I can't begin to tell you or even count the number of prospective home buyers who contact me for real estate services who are "approved" by this mortgage provider or that.  If they have gotten that "approval" through an Internet lender, you can bet I'm going to look closely at them before sending them to an agent.  Over the years, I've learned that what a prospective home buyer considers a "pre-approval" is a fig-newton of their wishful thinking.  Consumers do not know the difference between a credit review, pre-qualification, pre-approval, approval, commitment, conditions, etc. 

Yet, with those "magic words", a real estate agent is expected to commit many, many hours of time and resources to research, home tours, contract negotiations, home inspections, etc. all on the promise that the buyer is "pre-approved"? 

Not on your life.  Our time is valuable and I want to know the numbers.  It takes me about 3 minutes to "pre-qualify" a buyer for my own purposes.  When I see a 65 back ratio with a 1099 borrower, I'm gong to have questions. 

Our job is to help home buyers navigate their way to home ownership, not go through the motions aimlessly hoping everything works out. 

 

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Louis.  Everything you said is true.  However, the question is, are the credit standards high for legitimate reasons? 

One thing we know from experience is that, when a loan is denied at the last minute, there is never a logical reason.  If the buyer's credit profile hasn't changed, yet credit is denied 4-6 weeks into the process, that has absolutely nothing to do with the buyer.  Yet, there is never an explanation. 

The mortgage company has the credit report, documents, appraisal, etc. and then weeks later, underwriting is denied or more money is required.  When I review HUD-1s I often see a huge discrepancy between the GFE and the HUD-1 lender fees.  If the buyer can't come up with the money or the agent(s) don't chip in, the loan doesn't close.  That doesn't happen with experienced agents, but it happens a lot.  More than folks want to acknowledge. 

We've seen numerous posts on ActiveRain where a broker detailed their experience with last minute loan denial by investors/underwriters.  Even the mortgage brokers are caught in this maelstrom.

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We see it all the time. Closing date is set. Loan denied at the last minute...

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we are now in a market position where prices (down more than 30% in many areas of greater phoenix) where buyers want to buy and cannot buy due to the credit markets

10:57am • #34
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A always Lenn: worth my time ;-) I've been lucky (blessed, that is): buyers with cash.

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Lenn, you are one smart lady.  Glad to know this slight-of-hand isn't happening only in Michigan.  There should be more transparency for the borrowers in lending transactions, from beginning to end.

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Lenn - I love your Hard Core Real Estate Talk. I alwasy learn so much, and for someone who is relatively new to the industry I can always use the education. I find the history of how things have shifted particularly interesting. Fortunately I have had no denials at the last minute but know some folks who have. Many of my recent buyers have been 20% down and up, so there have been fewer issues.

Jeff

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LENN- As always you cut through the rubbish and get to point.  Liquidity is an issue.  Buyer ability is an issue.  The only way out of the mess is to find ways in which the housing market can recover, and for that to happen, loan products must work effectively. 

As always a well written, comprehensive article. 

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Great post Lenn, I agree with your summary of the last few years and would add reiterate that greed, by the mortgage agents selling the loan, the real estate agents selling the homes, the buyers who thought their new purchase would appreciate at unbelievable rates and Wall Street, who was pushing for these loans....also added to the mix.

Common sense goes out the window when greed rears it's ugly head.

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Ana.  Thanks.  I have led a very sheltered life. 

I qualify my buyers and if they don't qualify, I don't sell them a house.  So, I resist including real estate agents in that mix.  We don't make the loans. 

Of course, many mortgage folks resist my logic.

10:53am • #40

I qualify my buyers and if they don't qualify, I don't sell them a house. 

Good evening Lenn,

This industry, and our whole country, would be in a lot better shape right now if all brokerages had followed your common sense example.

Sincerely,

Bruce

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Our inhouse mortgage broker has commented that it's like every day when he comes in to work he has to learn everything all over again because the guidelines have changed. And what about the lenders who go out of business a couple of days before the loan closes? Or the program that is eliminated a couple of days before the loan closes? If there are no investors to fund that type of loan anymore, good bye "Mortgage Product." I had one turned down for some great buyers because "there is no appetite in the secondary market for this type of product."

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Lenn: I love the way that you describe the loan as a mortgage product. The mortgage industry just provided the products that the consumers wanted and what was selling at the time. I remember when we got the stated income, interest only loans. It was a good product for some, especially if they knew they would relocate in 3 to 5 years. But it was a disaster for others. The ones is was a disaster for should have never been granted that type of loan.

Whew! Don't you wish we had the crystal ball?

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This is great!! I have to share this! What a great way to start a day!

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