OK - I promised myself I was over this - For 10 years I have been bitching and ranting over the "borrowers, copycats and duplicators." Not only has it happened to me time and time again, but to so many of my colleagues.

RantIt is such a creepy, stomach turning event when you go to a site, read a brochure, see a business name - That has been "borrowed" from yours.  Words sucked out of your mouth, ideas from your brain, materials that took you day and days to write - POOF THEY'RE SOMEONE ELSES. The real creepy part is most of the time when confronted they're like OJ - They're so delusional that they've convinced themselves that they didn't do it.  "Really, I didn't know - OMG.  It must have been my Webmaster, Marketing person, brother-in-law..."

Now we have GOOGLE ALERTS and can run COPYSCAPE.  Most of the time it's from your own research or we are tipped off by another.  There is nowhere to hide.

Why or why would you invest so much money in training and business start-up costs to only pick a name that someone already has, or "borrow" someone else website layout, text or business philosophy?  Part of starting a business is researching and developing your brand.  If you can spend the time borrowing, take the same time to be creative, develop and research.

Bad DogJust a week ago, I was GOOGLE ALERTED, and it wasn't a sentence, a word or two, but 266 words from my site on their front page!!!  The "borrower's" excuse was the Webmaster did it! This is the same as "The dog ate my paper."  

My favorite of all time was my X-Client that at the end of my consultation for her revealed that she actually wants to do this for a living, proceeded to take local training, and then name her business Change of Space Interiors (hopefully she got some accessorizing education...)  She lives around a mile from me. - Clever!  Hmmm... Can you say brand confusion to local prospects? 

Trainers should be ashamed of themselves not to educate their students!  Word-up!  Please give them a ½ hour lesson about branding.  And since this was a local training, I have no respect now for the trainer for not mentoring this poor lady and guiding her to be creative and smart.

A recent email from an education trainer says that she is going to now offer stock monthly newsletters that you can buy from her - The sales pitch is, no time, or just in case you're not a writer." WHAT!  So someone else writes about how creative and innovated your business is, and what happens when someone takes you up on your ideas (Which are not your own?) There is also a national training company that has a generic website format - Each one looks exactly the same.  So if you're a prospect, and you see site after site just the same - Wouldn't you be confused? 

So here's the confusion - We try to make homes stand out from rest, enhance the best features, and set the home apart from the others?  If you also offer decorative services, you're creative, innovated and have the business skills to help them with their interior design projects - And your website looks like 10 others in the same area?

In such a creative and very small niche business - YOU HAVE TO BE SMART, CREATIVE & INDIVIDUAL - Please don't be lazy, borrow, be inspired, or creatively change 10% of what someone else already has?  Take the time and effort it took us to create your own materials.

"What took you days, weeks, months, years to create - Takes them mire minutes to copy."   "What's easier ?" 

HERE'S THE DOMINO EFFECT for being a "borrower."

•·         IN terms of clients and prospects: We live in a world of GOOGLERS.  Now more than ever,  people are comparing, dissecting and in-depth researching before they hire someone. 

•·         IN terms of fellow associates and the press, GOOGLE Alerts, CopyScape and smart business owners look at other sites all the time. What happens is you get letters from attorneys, disrespect from peers in the industry, and a bad reputation.

•·         As far as the press, they're even savvier - They seek out the unique and different rather than the same old same old. -They can spot a "borrower" instantly, they're wordsmiths.

•·         As far as our Industry - We as a whole bitterly complain all the time about "bad staging," and how it lowers the standards in our field.  It is the same when people see the same text, same ideas, and same names over and over again - IT BRINGS THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY A KNOTCH DOWN.

 
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Very well written blog Julea.  I totally agree with what you have said.  I subscribe to booth Google Alerts and the extended CopyScape service.  I constantly check to make sure that no one has "borrowed" any of my text.  I worked way too hard on every word of it to have someone swoop in and take it for themselves.  You should post this blog on the AR Real World of Staging for Newbies group as well. 

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Thanks Charlene, and by the way - Great NAME!

8:10am • #2
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Thanks Charlene, and by the way - Great NAME!

8:10am • #3

Very well written...very important topic!  I do want to comment on  "generic websites," all looking the same.  My training company offers a professional website to members, and they are "similar" in a "format" kind of way.  However, each website owner is responsible for any and ALL of the verbage, photos, creation of services, staging facts, etc.  I do agree with you that presenting an EXACT replica of another stagers site is highly unprofessional and unethical!

I recently found another stager's website that contained almost verbatim what mine says!  I initially thought it was coincidence, but after thinking that her name was familiar, I did some research.  Sure enough this stager had contacted me earlier this year wanting occupied home services and pricing.  You guessed it...she was the "homeowner."  I also learned that she is located about 20 minutes away from me AND she is now advertising her services to include my SPECIFIC market area!

I actually sent her an email to let her know that I was on to her!  She didn't have the professionalism to admit what she had done!

I would like to join you, Julea in RANTING AND RAVING to our industry....don't "borrow" from another stager who has put "sweat equity" into their website and business!  Thanks for the great post!

8:28am • #4
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Julea...it was worth the wait!  Excellent post.

I subscribe to Google Alerts, but have never heard of CopyScape.  Is that run by Google also?

I was trained by stagedhomes, but I refuse to use any of the Barb-isms in my marketing or verbiage.  And while there are only so many ways to state a concept, I make sure to present my own take on it.  It's sad that some feel it's perfectly OK to "borrow" from others.  I've noticed my own tagline (that I've been using for 3+ years and changed because my original tagline got nabbed) popping up on websites lately, and it does bum me out a bit.  I worry that viewers will think that I am the borrower.  What's a stager to do?

8:29am • #5
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Teresa - The training company you took training from is indeed what I was mentioning.  Yes,  you have unique content, text and pictures but when you're a prospect looking, the format is the same, so the 1st 5-10 seconds it looks the same....

Marianne www.copyscape.comwas found by our business Goddess - Maureen Henry. 

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Good Morning Julea-very excellent post!  I did not know about copyscape.com either!!  Thank you!!  Maureen is a incredible!  

8:58am • #7
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Julea: Excellent rant! You and I are on the same page about this. It is very frustrating to have toiled and sweated over writing copy for my web site and for my blog and to see my words, minimally rearranged, hijacked by someone else. And don't even get me started on the pictures. I now have a big fat watermark across all my photos since I was tired of policing them. At least now, if someone is going to steal my photos, I will get credit for them and get some free advertising.

I wrote a blog a while ago about ethics and portfolio photos. I may  have to revist that post.

I have purchased every URL extention for my company name, and many variations of that name, so if anyone wants to copy me by using my company name, they will have a very difficult time finding a web address to advertise their company. And we all know, no web presence = no business in this day and age.

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Julea, sorry to hear it happened again to you. As for the client turned competition...I dont' know what to say...other than pathetic.

I don't think this will end and I feel the training businesses are greatly to blame. They tell everyone...shout it from the tree tops...Anyone can stage! Bullocks!

Borrowers (and that is being polite):

If you can't come up with unique copy, photos, business name...you probably have a good indication YOU CAN'T STAGE EITHER!

9:48am • #9
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Thanks for the info.  Maureen?  If you're reading this.........BRILLIANT!!!

9:55am • #10
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Dane - You complete me!

11:48am • #11
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Excellent post, Julea.  There is an agent that was with our office that moved awhile back and completely ripped off a lot of things from our website.

Nothing is more irritating.  I do the work and someone else reaps the benefits.

11:49am • #12
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Kristina - Indeed - I was just down by you teaching an introduction to Staging for the Egyptian Board of Realtors - We were at Rend Lake!

11:54am • #13
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Julea,

I so agree with you. I have had much content and photos stolen from my blog and other websites. The violators are initially contacted with respect and asked to remove it. Some remove it and move on. Others get angry. I still have one local agent sending me harrassing emails. He stole content and photos from my original work and thinks he did nothing wrong and didn't remove some of it. Unfortunately for him I turned him in and he got kicked off of AR, his blog was taken down and his website had the content removed by the hosting provider. Now he's claiming that one of my agents is making false accusations and that he is going to come after us in any way possible. Nice guy.

Anyway, I think these people are taking the concept of "why reinvent the wheel' WAY too far and they need to be stopped. It is disrespectful and ILLEGAL.

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Thanks for the tip about copyscape. I have google alerts for my name and my husband's, but do you copy a whole page and put that on a google alert? Brilliant idea!

They say copying is the sincerest form of flattery - people used to copy my sister's fashion sense all the time when we were growing up and it made her furious. Copying when it is business is just plain STEALING. It's tempting, but with increasing transparency, hurting your online reputation by copying may not be a good idea in the long run for your business, right?

11:58am • #15
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Oh my the copy cats never stop.  For a while the public may be fooled by some.  Hopefully, they will  not be successful.  It is too bad this continues on a wide-spread basis.

12:00pm • #16

great post.  I agree we all try to make our sites better and can be uspsetting when someone comes behind and take all your credit.  I didn't know about copycat.  Thanks 

 

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Julea -- Your post is RIGHT ON!  I too have had the text in my site copied by others -- some of whom are in my area and must have thought I wouldn't notice!  Thank goodness for Copyscape.  One person even copied my text TWICE. Some people just have NO ethics and it's an indication of how they run their business too.

Regarding that national training organization that offers a website to it's students -- I think the stock photos NEED TO GO.  They give the definite impression that they are the work of the stager involved.  They're not -- they're professional shots.  People should use their own shots on their websites and in their portfolios.  Come on people, let's be professionals!

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Maureen, I believe there are a few national training companies that do that.  If I see the "Before & After" of the over foliaged exterior shot of the California/Spanish Style home one more time, especially here in the Midwest ...... HELLO! Yes we have many home here w/TILE ROOFS!

 

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Julea - Right on!  

My web designer told me over and over to come up with my own original content, be fresh and don't try to be like everyone else!

12:15pm • #20

Nice to see someone standing up for themselves.

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Good post - funny that I was just having this conversation with a colleague yesterday. We were talking about how we had really been considered market drivers in the 80's and 90's and how in the 00's we busted the ceiling and marched ahead of our competitors in our respective arenas. Then we turned to almost this subject and how those who were jealous for our success "gleaned" pieces of our presentation and ran with them. In 2005 a local "guru" attended my Short Sale QuickStart. I had been doing and teaching short sales for several years but the market was starting to explode with new opportunities when I created the "quick start" class. Within just a few months I heard this lady's name mentioned as "the number one short sale expert in Georgia". I received a copy of her seminar notes (that she offered in her seminar) through a client who attended her seminar and it was amazing how parallel they were to mine. But where is she today? I don't know. Not in the business. Same for the imitators who plagiarized my ads and other content. They are gone. Unable to think for themselves they have been unable to continue in this daily assault. But then I've been in business over 30 years - I have seen a LOT of comers and goers. They can imitate you but they cannot duplicate you. (But I still use Copyscape ;)

12:19pm • #22
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Julea ~ You've reminded me that I need to be more consistent in checking with Copyscape.  I'm sorry that this seems to have happened to you (yet again).  I do think it needs to be brought up periodically though; to warn new members who may get copied and those who copy.

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Julea, good post. I tried the free search on copyscape but all it found was my posts and I had been reblogged??? Had already set my google alerts, but nothing but me and some weird off the wall stuff.

12:30pm • #24

Julea,

I understand your aggravation.  I did not know about copyscape either.  Thanks for the information.

12:57pm • #25

I didn't know about CopyScape - but I protected my site before I finished reading your blog, Julea!  Thanks!!  I have had this conversation with others in the past.  It seems to be a common phenomenon.  Last year I had paragraphs of copy lifted verbatim by a reporter that published in the Vancouver Sun, and it was a shock!  I have sent the link to this post to a colleague whose website was copied also.  Many thanks for a great post.

1:07pm • #26

I didn't know about CopyScape - but I protected my site before I finished reading your blog, Julea!  Thanks!!  I have had this conversation with others in the past.  It seems to be a common phenomenon.  Last year I had paragraphs of copy lifted verbatim by a reporter that published in the Vancouver Sun, and it was a shock!  I have sent the link to this post to a colleague whose website was copied also.  Many thanks for a great post.

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Hi Julea,  I hear about this from time to time and always share a sense of frustration with the writer.  What I am left wondering is does anyone do anything about it ?

1:13pm • #28

plagiarism- synonyms; copying, lifting, stealing, illegal use, breach of copyright, bootlegging...

and as usual, you nailed it Dane!

Thank you Julea

 

1:14pm • #29

Thanks Julea, I've never heard of Google Alerts but have used copyscape to catch several thieves.  It's always the webmaster that did it isn't it? 

Love to see a blog post about how you use Google Alerts to protect your website content.

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Julea - I can sing that song in tune.  I can't tell you how many cease and desist letters I've sent out. I hear all the same excuses - it was my webmaster, daughter in law's neighbor etc. I finally got a pretty good disable right click script on my site - a pop up comes up that says DO NOT COPY!!! Material copywrited...  Hopefully that will help. I feel your frustration.

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I am not a stager but I can appreciate the more broad point of this article. Creativity and experitise in your field... any field really stand out and will get you noticed. thanks for the post!

 

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Julia - You are so right. It's just reprehensible when people copy your work. Begin with a "cease and desist" letter sent email and snail mail and move on from there if necessary.

1:54pm • #33
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Judt,

Honey - I've been doing that for 10 years, but they still come out of the wood work like roaches!

1:59pm • #34

This is why I said last year we should make a group up in AR that out's these people!

There is no excuse to steal another person's website content. We should Start up a group here that gives these people a chance to take your content off there site otherwise we will put them in the thief's group.

BB

 

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Julea, I love you too! I wish Chicago wasn't so far away. I'd make a weekend trip out just to have a coffee with you.

Marian, thank you...It felt so good to say it!

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I am spending big bucks re-doing my website right now. I created all new content. And I'm in the middle of writing and publishing a HOW TO guide -- how to buy a house in Schuylkill County. Will be very customized as to school districts, our taxes, how it works... and part of me is afraid that my material won't be "mine" for long.

2:27pm • #37

Dane~ you would hate to come to Chicago with your temper..LOL

One look at all the BS Staging companies we have here that steal your customers, steal your web content and have no clue how 2 Stage or run a Staging business you would go postal on them.

BB

2:35pm • #38

I, too, have had pages and pages of my website stolen verbatim. I love copyscape and google alerts.  I have even used "cease and desist" letters.

If you ever have to go to court it is quite simple to prove who wrote a webpage first with the "Way-Back" machine. It shows all the changes your website and gone through on specific dates. It is very easy to prove who wrote what first. (I know it sounds like a joke but there truly is a "way back" machine - google it yourself)

 

3:11pm • #39
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Dane - Oh Canada, I keep wanting to see your fall color - One of these years...  Don't listen to Brian, you'd love Chicago.  Our lake shore kicks, and you'd love our accents as well as yours!

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Julea! My hubby and I have studied marketing for years one thing we have learned is that it's quite common for different companies to stealborrow ideas from others and utilize them in their advertising. For example, the car industry's "employees discount" being offered to consumers. One company started it, now many of them offer this same incentive. I can't tell you how often we have been copied. I don't necessarily take offense, in fact in a way it's a compliment that they felt our content was good enough to use in their advertising. The key is in order to stay at the top, you have to keep working your ads and testing for response. Who cares if they steal your idea if it's not making you any money?! And if it is making you money, then you need to be a better marketer of the product than your competition. I suppose you can spend time trying to locate and find the "posers" but remember "Don't throw bricks in glass houses." Your ideas and thoughts most likely started with some sort of marketing media or even a book that your were exposed to. "Welcome to My 'Poser' World!" 

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I found my entire website, pictures and all with another persons name on it.  I got the same excuse, "my web designer did it."  I said you have one hour to remove it.  An hour later it was still there.  I called again and the excuse was "I don't know how to remove it myself."  Fine the next morning I called the agents broker and said I don't think you want me to escalate this much further but I will give you one hour to figure out how to get this website down.  Surprise it was down within the hour.  Since at the time I had had my site designed by a professional website designer I also called them to let them know and they fired off an email to the offending designer. 

It was crazy and recently I say another local AR person who modified their site to have the same front page as mine.  My response is you aren't me and the clients who call me probably aren't going to call you.  They can tell the difference between us once they dig a little deeper!

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Excellent post, Julea.  I too have often been puzzled by the use of a stock web site.  As a professional home stager, the greatest opportunity we have to help set us apart is the creativeness of the tools around us; the web site being one of them.

Home Staging Atlanta Georgia

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Julea - I feel your pain. I know of no way to stop or prevent people from doing what they do - steal, copy, borrow.  There is an agent in my office who has taken my ideas, concepts, key words, etc. and I say nothing to him. What is the point - as you know - they only deny it. It becomes a motivator for me to be even more creative and keep myself in front.  I know if I put too much energy on it - it only takes me away from focusing on what I am building.

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Great post, Julea...  I am assuming you have a custom website.  If I did, I would be fuming, too.  They are very expensive, and you do want to be original in your content.  Good luck to you...

4:57pm • #45
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You have an excellent point with this, and it is a real shame that people don't have more self respect than to do this type of thing.

5:12pm • #46
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I have seen it over and over even on activerain. Agents in one community have the exact same verbage as another community leader except they changed the community name. Its one thing to get ideas but you should make it your own.

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I've had many steal maps from my web pages. I make them pay.  That's the only way to stop them.

I've heard the "web master did it", "The Russians (web masters) did it".  Blah, blah, blah.

Does that mean that they never looked at their web site?????  I don't buy any excuses.  I register my maps with the copyright office and have statutory damages. 

Yes, I've had a few ActiveRain folks take my maps.  They must have lost their mind since I've been writing about this sine my very first post in Aug. 2006.

5:25pm • #48
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Julea- sorry you have had to deal with this. Sadly I have too. I think that when you are successful people naturally think that there is some secret that you have discovered and it they look like you, talk like you, write like you then they will have that success too. They do not see the blood, sweat, tears, broken nails, in my case broken hand, sleepless nights, thousands of dollars and passion that you had to put in to get there.

Last year I had a training company copy words from my website and when I confronted them they said their webmaster did it! When I asked for the name of that person they said they "forgot" who it was. Someone on their team then lamely told me that I should be flattered! Plagiarism is not flattery- it is illegal since my site it copyrighted. The funny part is that the offender later sent me an email telling me that she did it and lied to me (as if I was that dumb and needed it spelled out) The thing that killed me is that she was up for a national award in our industry- an award based on professionalism and ethics. The only reason that I did not blow the whistle on her is that I think deep down there are some other issues going on to make someone copy the site in the first place- if she was claiming to be a trainer then why did she need to steal info from me?

She has sinced removed the the info but it still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth- I was shocked she even entered the contest knowing I knew what I knew. The funny thing is a lot of people know what happened and no one said anything either.

I hope that organizations like RESA can form some sort of ethics committee- I told Shell last week that I want my title to be Staging Police. I just saw a staging company using Cort Furniture pics on their website! What do they think we are stupid?

So, Sorry for the rant but I feel ya sister! Hope you are well and survived the rains out there. KH

5:32pm • #49

I agree that its unfair. We work too hard at what we do for someone to just say..."I'll take it!" Its not theirs to take. I recently signed up for Google alert. It is amazing!

Stacey~

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I didn't know that google had that service...good to know!  Good post also, I work extremely hard on my websites and try to make all the content fresh relevant and my own.

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The last person that I would think would "steal" would be the webmaster---a lame excuse, right?

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I'm sorry that happend to you.  It irks me so much.  I've used "he who hesitates has no lake home" for years.  when a realtor from another firm put it on his "coolers" he actually was stupid enough to give me one.  OOOOH NO HE DI ENT!  Ooops, he forgot to put the name of his firm.  Gosh I had to report him to the commission.

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I have had some posts co-opted... but luckily, not enough to really tick me off...  I hope that I don't end up having to deal with that junk.  And I make all of my own content.  It is just easier that way.

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Julea... Great post.. I have seen the copycat syndrome before... Not a good thing

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Julea:

This happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was doing a search on Google for the keywords of "Spring Texas schools". I write several posts about the schools so naturally I anticipated seeing my own posts in the SERPS. As I was scanning the search results I noticed in the description the word for word sentence of one of my posts.

The only problem it was not my post. Ironically it was on the website of another agent in my office. I contacted the agent and said that I was surprised to see my original content on her website because I did not think she was the caliber of agent that would copy someone else's original work.

She looked into and told me it was her webmaster that copied the content. The response she received from her webmaster was that it was on the Internet and thus free and available to everyone. And isn't that what she paid them for to update her site. Over the next week, the webmaster significantly changed the content to look different than mine.

Bottom line .... the drawback of our technology is the ease in which someone can copy and paste.

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I have to say, I've been very lucky. As far as I know I havent' had any copy or photos 'lifted'. Hope I never have to face it.

REALLY, who'd be stupid enough to do that to me?! You'd have to feel sorry for them!

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Amen, Julea!  I had the same thing happen to me recently.  I have spent many tens of thousands of dollars on extensive education to build my niche and become more knowledgeable in real estate than most veterans...to only find a new team member exacto my website.  I was irate...I called and confronted her and ask what her intention was...she was "playing around, you know, getting to know the layout of the website".  Not cool, but she has since changed it.

Thanks for the post.

 

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Thanks for the heads-up ... I'm off to look at CopySpace!

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One has to be diligent and sometimes CopyScape and Google Alert isn't going to find the "Borrower." Many times I've been alerted by peers, clients and my own exploration.

...AND don't only think it is one of your associate - Sometimes its an Association!!!  I've seen what's come out of my mouth or written about my design philosophy pop up on National Association sites too. That's really frightening...

And like Diana, I'll just put on my Creativity Hat and dream up something new, change my site, update my business cards, revise my text.  Being ahead of the pack just leaves the "borrowers" in the dust!

6:08am • #61

That took some real big ones for that lady to actually have you come out, meet you and then tell you she was getting in the biz! Thanks for your humor and honesty.

7:56am • #62
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Alicia,

At least I got paid for my time!  Nice name too!

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Julea - how do you google alert your website to let you know when someone plagiarizes?  This morning I just sent out 4 cease and desist letters. It is such a pain in the butt.

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Julea - I'm familiar with how google alerts works - I have alerts for my name, company name and stuff that interests me but how do you get alerts that your site has been plagiarized? Do you put in key phrases from your website or what?

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I have used Google Alerts, but not CopyScape.  Thanks for putting me on to this site.  Great site!!

11:11am • #67
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Maureen,

Yes, I used some of my key words, tag lines and unique text from my site and that is what popped up. 

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Got it, good idea. Thanks for the tip.

3:53pm • #69

Branding is important but it has to come with time, as you become more confortable with yourself and actually have a style to brand.

6:36pm • #70
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I disagree completely!  I think it is SO important when you create your business plan, and philosophy to have your Branding in place - Right from the get-go. As your business grows and evolves you can modify or expand, but your Base is always in place!

9:56am • #71

Julea~ I Love Chicago with all my heart and the hearts of the generations of Blooms who lived and continue to live here.

We never left Chicago, we take the good with the bad and will always live here as long as I;m Irish and I have all my family here. I was pulling Danes leg when I said she would go postal on all the thieves here who steal from you and our websites.

So come on down Dane.... You will love Chicago,

PS. Sorry we did not get a chance to visit you when we went to Canada, we went in July. We were in montreal and stayed at the mount Tremblant resort. Very, Very nice. 5 star! The people there were so friendly.

Anyway Have a wonderful day... We are ( just picked up a new account:)

Brian Bloom

12:59pm • #72
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Brian,

I knew you were kidding. 

1:29pm • #73
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If someone takes a sentence or two and writes their own spin on it, I'm OK with that, if credit has been given to the original source. Just cutting and pasting entire articles isn't OK with me and I don't like seeing other people do it. I'd be upset if I found out it was my content!

4:38pm • #74

I've never used either google alerts or copyscape...guess I will  have to check them out...thanks for the info

9:20pm • #75
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2008
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Julea: Because of this post I did a copyscape search of my web site. I haven't done one for a while. I found two different people had copied pages from my web site. I have sent letters to them. I'm curious to see how they respond.

6:45pm • #85
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Michelle,

I go out for the day... The letter makes a good impression on the "borrowers." I'm sure they'll comply.

7:33pm • #87
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I will too....I am ready....

7:36pm • #88
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This is rediculous and I have to say Renee any empathy I had for you has just gone out the door. You did something illegal and yet you are pissed that Kate is upset?!

It's time the bullshit and backstabbing ends.

Kate, you did nothing to provoke this.

Michelle, the fact that this conversation is happening here shows there is still much lacking in RESA's handling of unethical behaviour of members. RESA must protect members as well as the consummer from such behaviour.

Renee should not have been allowed to enter IDOL, T & T should not be members in good standing either and I even recieved emails from Tracy bashing another well respected stager/trainer with absolutely no basis.

Renee, you have no right to be upset with Kate. You broke the law. No one not even the T's made you steal Kate's copy.

If you'd done that to me...then came on here and played the sob story, poor me I made a mistake...I'd be pissed as hell to. I'd be a freakin' wasps nest!

Julea, great post and as you can see, legal remedies may be the only option to protect yourself, because if you are as laid back as Kate was when Renee stole from her...you will get no true appology from the theif and they will try to make you out to be the bad guy.

F!sharp!

 

7:37pm • #89
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Good Evening Ladies

I've taken the liberty to remove a few entries to this post... This Saturday is my day off, and I just came into my office to get my reading glasses and check my emails... 

A few weeks ago I was at a cocktail party asking people what they thought of Sarah Palin.  It made for interesting and passionate conversation.  I'm very glad I created this post and it too has generated interesting and passionate conversation.

The reason I deleted a few posts is this - I'd like to keep the conversation going on a broad forum.

7:52pm • #90
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Got it Julea. Like I said- I did not mean to hijack the post- but like Sarah Palin the only difference between me and a pit bull is lip stick- well actually lip gloss.  I protect what is mine. kh

8:04pm • #91
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Hi Julea. this is an important topic and obviously has stirred up some issues that should definitely be addressed in a professional and private manner. There are a variety of ways  to handle things and IMHO the higher road is always the best taken.

Although the phrase "imitation is the highest form of flattery" may apply to how one dresses or does their hair, it certainly does not apply to intellectual property.

I believe it's one of the unfortunate side effects of a global internet world where it's very difficult to protect one's self and written word these days without legal action, and who has the time and money to fight it constantly? Google Alerts and Copyscape (I'd honestly never heard of it before you wrote about it here) are great tools for that and I've been a victim myself.

I agree that RESA is a forum that members should address these issues within the boundaries of the codes of ethics and guidelines. However, those codes apply only to the members who freely join and must uphold these values in order to remain in good standing.

It's important for our industry to grow responsibly and professionally in all areas of our businesses and since it is an unregulated industry currently, we have to govern ourselves and business practices. But in order to help us all do that, associations like RESA are in a position to set the tone for the industry as a whole - regardless of school of training.

I look forward to hearing more of this and seeing our industry grow in a positive manner.

Thanks for putting it out there.

8:28pm • #92
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Julea - As a training company that offers a newsletter program to help stagers who are not great writers (or are too busy to do it themselves) I agree with some of what you've said, but not all of it.  Not everyone is blessed with the same talents.  You should NEVER steal (or borrow) someone else's material... but you can purchase it. 

I don't offer the same newsletter to stagers in the same market (except in one case where they asked me to & I confirmed with both of them that it was OK).  This keeps the confusion for potential customers to a minimum.  I also keep an archive so stagers on my program can use past articles rather than current ones - again, keeping things mixed up. 

Just because you are a good stager, doesn't mean you are great at the internet or writing or even marketing.  This is why so many businesses fail.  Enlisting other talented people to help you grow your business can often make the difference between a successful business and one that fails - even with great talent at the healm. 

Plaigary, is not ethical and should not be tolerated.  I know the whole situation between Kate & Renee... actually if it hadn't been for me Kate never would have found out about it.  It was because of an issue between T&T, Renee and myself and a private conversation Kate and I had about it that led Kate to look at Renee's site.  That's when Kate found out about the issue.... (talk about Karma, huh?) 

 My point is that not all stagers are created equal, for those who want to pay for the right to use someone else's materials, there is nothing wrong with that.  For those who lift it.... they should be hung out to dry.....

8:57pm • #93

Great post and great advice ,its not nice what people do some times but I guess they have to go to sleep with a bad ............ I'll leave that up to your imaginations 

11:09pm • #94
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2008

AMEN!  Thanks for all the info, Julea.  Best...

11:46pm • #95
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2008
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Julea, Hope your well.  Excellent post, High energy, although I came in so late I've got the feeling I missed the electricalpart of the comments...  At some level I agree with what Brian wrote early on in the post.  Catch a borrower, let the world know.  Seems like taking that stance would slow the tide down to only the single celled borrowers.  I'm going to try the Copyscape thing.  I am soooo hopefully that I don't even by accident repeat anything that Dane has said. LOL

For the borrowers out there.... Try finding a friend or perhaps a family member that has some brains to restate the thoughts you want to steal... simply using copy~paste will make you look really stupid.

10:28pm • #96
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Gary, You indeed came in late to the party, but as usual have the best words of wisdom. I guess we could create a AR GROUP that would be devoted to "outing" the borrowers, and it would maybe shame some of them, and make others think twice - But I've got a feeling that they:

1. Really don't care. 

2. Wouldn't be smart enough to see our "outing" posts. 

3. It would be a waste of our time.

I can't tell you how I dread having to spend (waste) my very precious time to look over their site, write the letter, send it, and then sit back and wait to hear the excuse(s.) They have no idea that beside the time they vampired from you to "borrow" it, when caught, more time is wasted.

It validates the selfishness that is innately part of their personalities. 

PS - I'm feeling great !! 

 

8:03am • #97
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One interesting thought I've always had about the borrowers...  I don't think they can use the words they borrow from people to benefit themselves in any way.  I've always thought that you have to understand the words you say to be able to sell the actual idea behind them.  If they are borrowed words there is just a huge lack of understanding and therefor the borrower can't sell the idea.  Make sense?

3:20pm • #98
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Gary,

I DO, and that's why you can't use someone elses materials and morph them into yours.

7:37am • #99

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