User109843_3_t Guy Berry,
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I don't know how often I hear from agents that after making an offer,  they got back an addendum from the REO Asset manager.  NO, it is a counter offer.  Anytime,  the terms are changed,  before the parties are in contract,  we should be calling this a counter offer.  The problem is that too often,  the buyers agent is not pointing out the terms that can really hurt a buyer. This doesn't mean that the bank will change their mind but your duty is to make sure the buyer sees the risks.  Let me give you a few examples I have seen recently:

  • Jamming the buyer on time:  I have seen the addendum say the contingency period is reduced to 10 or even 7 days.  Unless the buyer is prepared to waive inspections and has their loan fully in place,  this is almost impossible
  • Pasive Contingency removal: In most states,  contingency timeframes have to removed in writing. Most lender counters say the contignecy will be passive,  meaning that it expires on a certain date.  So, if it is 10 days, if you do not cancel,  it is automatically removed.  Some agents fall into the trap of sending an addendum on the 10th day,  asking for an extension.  If the bank doesn't agree to it within the 10 days,  contingencies are automatically removed,  and the buyer's deposit is at risk if they don't close.  The right thing to do is to write and addendum that says,  based on the property condition,  the buyer hereby cancels the transaction ......unless the bank seller agrees to the following.  Then,  list those things you want to modify;  price, credit,  repair,  longer timeframe, etc
 

5 Comments on Beware of the REO Bank's Counter - it can hurt the buyer - Part 1

Guy - you're 100% correct. The Addendum or Rider that the Bank sends back is a counter-offer and often has unduly onerous terms for the buyer.

In the current market I'm recommending to my buyers that they do not remove the loan contingency until the loan actually funds.

09/17/2008 06:16 PM by Stewart Penn - Los Angeles Condo Specialist (Penn Properties)


Hey Guy,

Thanks for the good advice! Yup when you have $12 an hour employees writing counter offers and addendum's from banks you can see almost anything.

Take care!

RJH

09/17/2008 06:18 PM by Empire Realty


Guy:

I am on my 10th (Countrywide)  negotiator and each time we get a new contract.

09/17/2008 06:26 PM by Lorraine and Loretta Kratz (Crescent Moon Realty, Inc. & Land N Sea Auctions.)


Yes I guess giving you 24 hours to return Their contract addendum  & hazard disclosures would be considered jamming you up!  The time lines they request are crazy! But it has been almost 10 days to get the power turned on for my inspection, still waiting & each time I call to ask I am told they do the best they can.

09/17/2008 06:55 PM by Claudia Efthimos (Signature Homes & Estates)


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