Hi guys and gals.  It's been a while.  Not sure how much I am going to be around, but just thought that I needed to share something.  Maybe someone will Google me and read the words that need to be understood.

We deal with a lot of lenders in Columbus and Central Ohio on a consultant basis and to act as receiver for properties in foreclosure.  Basically that means we take possession of assets under court order if the borrower abandons them, is running them into the ground, etc.  When we do this, most of the time we are ordered to liquidate the property.  We also do REO.

We recently took on a new client that wanted the property liquidated "for the best we could get for it, fast".  When they learned that this meant sales for $16,000 to $22,000 on properties they loaned $80,000 on, they changed their opinion.  What they are going to do I have no idea, but we are not going to be involved.  If I want to spend my day with someone who doesn't listen, I will take my 6 year old to Toys R Us.

Last year we took on a client in the same situation.  They wouldn't sell for market value and now the market is way down.  Prices that were "insulting" last year are now considered to be a great deal. Yep.  We still have them.  Too bad we can't get those prices these days!

Over the weekend there was a major storm and trees are down all over the State of Ohio.  So are power lines.

We had one tree fall and crush a house and another where a power line hit the house and a fire burned it to the ground.

Ladies and Gentlemen - There is a lot of risk here.  Prices are dropping.  Inventory is (to use a technical term) insanely high.  There is a 50 ++ % chance that your inner city REO is going to be vandalized.

I have been doing this sort of stuff for 12 years.  There is a time for holding and hoping, but this is not it.  Rip off the band aid, blow this stuff out and be done.  One of these days someone is going to say that tomorrow will be better and they will be right, but that day is not today.

As Dennis Miller says, "That's just my opinion America.  I could be wrong."

R

Richard F. Kruse is the President of Columbus, Ohio based Gryphon USA, Ltd. (www.gryphonusa.com).  The Gryphon Organization includes Gryphon Asset Management providing receivership and consulting services in the distressed marketplace, United Country Ohio Realty & Auction Group (www.ucohiorealty.com & www.ucohioauctions.com) providing real estate brokerage and auction services throughout Ohio and OnlineAuctionUSA.com (www.onlineauctionusa.com) providing commercial asset liquidations from the Midwest to East Coast. 

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22 Comments on I uh tol a u soo

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17
2008
113,871 Points 1 Featured Post Outside Blog

I wondered where the hell you've been but knew you must be busy.  I hope you'll stick your nose in here from time to time and tell us like it is. 

You're right...people need to get real.  We need to move the inventory and let this thing shake out once and for all.  I've got a headache that I don't think is going away until mid-2010 at the earliest.

6:48pm • #1

You could also be right. Getting real is sometimes tough. Good for you for saying it like it is.

6:51pm • #2
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This was my favorite part of the whole blog:  "If I want to spend the day with someone that won't listen, I'll take my 6 year old to Toys -R -Us!"  CLASSIC.  I want to use that on some of my unrealistic buyers and sellers! :o)

6:52pm • #3
259,293 Points 38 Featured Posts Outside Blog

It's not pretty out there Rich and like you, I know that now is not the time to hold them.  Stay around a bit Rich...you've been missed.

6:53pm • #4

How many times do we have to have the same conversation with different sellers.  It will continue to be worth less as long as supply outweighs demand.  Blow out the REOS and lets get this damn market normalized.

7:01pm • #5

Rich

They are so bold now that they (the criminals) are pulling the electric meter and pitching it so they can steal the service cable to the home.

That said now you have an exposed meter base that could KILL kids or anyone else who touches it.

Wonder what is the liability of a Realtor or anyone else who is watching this property for their client and NEVER goes to check on it?

Can't lock the meter so what is the answer? I do not have one.

7:23pm • #6
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"You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold em', know when to walk away and know when to RUN"....guess ole Kenny knew something after all : ) Nice seeing you back Rich ; )

 

 

7:24pm • #7
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Hi Amanda.  I've been doing a lot of non real estate stuff.  The last 3 months have been running and liquidating a farming operation.  I'll be back. FYI - I was thinking 09 until about 3 months ago.  Now I think 2-10 might be optimistic.

Robin - I think I am just too stupid to BS around.

Cristal - I love the unreasonable "I want" sellers.  I tell them that "I want" to be taller and better looking, but some things are just not going to happen.  If we get past that point, and most do, the relationship does blossom.  It's kind of a test I run on the client.  Strange, huh?

Howdy Monika - You guys brining the winni to OH-IO soon?

Scott - Answer - A lot.

Mike - Best answer I can give you is not to lick it.  That might hurt.

Kelli - And don't count your money while you're sittin at the closing table.  The time for countin is after your accountant overcharges you for his services and tells you that you made crap for all the effort.

7:37pm • #8
108,624 Points 11 Featured Posts

Don't you just love hearing an Inestor bitch when you tell them the property value is 25% to 50% of the loan THEY made. I'm like you in that if they won't listen I won't play because I didn't make the Loan, I sell Real Estate and the market is the market.

8:38pm • #9
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Yikes.

9:20pm • #10
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Rich... loved it!  Straight forward and to the point... I also Love "If I want to spend my day with someone who doesn't listen, I will take my 6 year old to Toys R Us"  Just love it!

11:03pm • #11
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18
2008
258,770 Points 26 Featured Posts Outside Blog

nice to see you - it is pretty tough out there - you are right on with your post

4:07am • #12
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Well, well, evil Rich. This is why I never unsubcribe to folks, if they don't post for awhile. Yes, it is not pretty out there. I like your focus, this is not the end, someday it will be.

6:51am • #13

I agree, copper stripping is very extreme in my area with vandalism on REO properties. It is better to have someone in there and quickly.

8:08am • #14
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20
2008
123,511 Points

I agree.  Unrealistic expectations will not produce realistic results! 

8:25am • #15

The rental amounts have not gone down and all those that would have bought 2 years ago are still renting.  I don't like being a landlord, but I'm not going to give away property that I rehabed.

Catch 22.

Jack

10:52pm • #16
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24
2008
5 Featured Posts

Oh Rich     you lucky guy.I work with investors every day looking for REO packages, the first words out of their mouth after Hello is " not  Ohio or Michigan"

C ya

6:47am • #17
SEP
25
2008

Ahh stern truth finally. I have noticed the same many sellers would haggle over hundreds of dollars only to keep the property and lose hundreds of thousands. Hindsight is 20/20 I just hope people would listen to agents whohaveseenthis before.

12:24am • #18
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26
2008
415,058 Points 17 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Whoa! You really laid it on the line here. Make sure you don't leave them with any hope o_O

11:10pm • #19
OCT
03
2008
188,781 Points 18 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hey Rich, missed you around here. We need more "tell it like it is" from you. Maybe repetition will sink in!! BTW I "always" thought around 2011 to even start. 

9:44pm • #20
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04
2008
OCT
06
2008

At the 5 Star conference, the keynote speaker from Freddie Mac says it will be spring of 2010 before we hit bottom in most of the tougher markets. 

10:11pm • #22

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