This post is a reminder for inspectors to be so careful when it comes to breaker panels. Yesterday I was inspecting a new home and almost got the shock of my life, and could have lost it as well. We sometimes get in a flow with our inspecting and don't think to check certain things. I now have  new items to check when it comes to the breaker panel's dead front cover.

After inspecting inside the box, I was putting the cover back on while talking to the buyer and just remember seeing a flash of light, hearing a POW and jumping back stunned. I'm not sure who was shocked more...her or myself! After regaining my composure, I realized what had happened.....the screw had penetrated one of the live wires inside. I then stood there thinking.....what should I do now? I noticed that none of the breakers had tripped which told me that it probably didn't hit a branch wire. Then I thought, if it is puncturing into a main feed conductor, then there is no way for me to disconnect power to it. I still smelled the smoke caused from the initial puncture and didn't know if it was still shorting out to the panel box or not. My heart was racing and could envision the house burning down, so I flipped off the main disconnect, grabbed one of my rubber faced gloves that I use when I climb roofs and took my screwdriver that has a rubber handle and held it at it's very end and carefully backed off the screw until it fell with the cover to the garage floor.

My lesson learned here is to pay more attention to make sure wires and feeds are not too close and directly behind a screw mounting hole and to also double check the screw as I would have never thought to pay special attention to the screw. Of course all screws that secure the covers are required to be blunt tipped screws and not sharp tipped, but I will now pay more attention to the ends of the screws now.

Here is what happened. The electrician was too lazy to route the service conductors far enough back into the box to allow more clearance for the cover screws, so he just took some cutters and shortened the screw for this particular screw mount. Not only was the screw still too long, but cutting it made the edges of the screw sharp. These covers have six mounting screws and of course I would pick the one with the sharp edge to back into this particular hole. Still if I had used one of the full length screws, it still may have punctured it. So from now I will check to make sure the screws have not been cut and if I feel the conductors are jut too close to the screw holes, I just won't install it. I called the builder after this and made sure the electrician got out to take care of this at once.

You can see where the screw hit one of the main conductors.

 

Screw was cut off about 1/8 inch.

Kent Keith

Fort Worth Home Inspector

www.fortworthinspector.com

 

 
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19 Comments on My Life Flashed in Front of My Eyes Yesterday.....Literally!

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21
2008
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WOW ..... close call. Lucky you didn't get a sharp deadly jolt.

Sean Allen

6:33pm • #2
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WOW!  I'm glad to hear you're ok.  I bet you check those with rubber gloves from now on!

7:00pm • #3
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That's enough to make you jump! Glad to hear that you are O.K. Could have been much worse.mark hall vancouver wa real estate

7:37pm • #4

You're lucky & so is the home seller & buyer that it was found before it could cause an electrical fire.

8:07pm • #5
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Someone was watching over you, thanks for the post, lesson learned and a new thing to watch out for.  Glad to hear you're OK.

8:13pm • #6
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22
2008

Kent

This is a very common problem. That is why if the entrance conductors enter from the bottom of a panel I shut the main OFF before removing or reinstalling the cover.

6:00am • #7

Kent

May I use your picture in my PowerPoint presentation with full credit give to you?

6:08am • #8

Wow! I bet you start bringing a change of underwear to your inspections from now on!

 I know how hard it is sometimes when your talking with clients, you can get sidetracked real easy, and forget simple things, like safety first.  I tripped on a roof vent once talking with a client and took a hard spill...

12:35pm • #9

Glad to hear that you were not injured, could of been a lot worse. Be safe out there!!

8:13pm • #10

Wow I haven't heard of this one before.  We try to be safe but it seems pretty hard to think of everything.  I check to see that the box is not energized BEFORE I take off the cover but that wouldn't have helped me in this situation.  Thanks for the heads up Kent, glad you're okay.

8:20pm • #11

Thank God, you are hear to tell the story.

10:25pm • #12

Kent, Thank God your Ok, Thanks for sharing your experience to help the rest of us. Go purchase that screw driver that lights up when voltage is present.

11:56pm • #13
SEP
23
2008

Thanks Dan, unfortunately the voltage detecting screwdriver would not have helped here. I did order a good pair of electrician's glove though.

Kent

Fort Worth Home Inspector

8:16am • #14
SEP
24
2008

Do you know why the breaker did not trip?

Because that wire is UNFUSED. That could have killed you.

More later I'm driving.

9:30am • #15

Yes Mike, I'm Very aware that the main conductors are UNFUSED.

5:52pm • #16

Kent

I know you know that it is unfused.

My responses are not always directed to the blogger but to everyone who may be reading this.

6:55pm • #17
SEP
30
2008

Wow, you guys have to be extra careful with these inspections. God was on your side this time. Your lives are very valuable, please use caution.

10:05pm • #18
OCT
11
2008

Kent,

Over the years I have run into this problem a couple of times.  I have learned a couple of tricks first always touch a panel cover with the back of your hand.  This will cause the muscles to contract and pull away from the panel.  A few years ago I got a electrical ticker and now always check the box prior to touching and also when I finish.  Good luck and be safe!

Richard

1:25pm • #19

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