Real estate values in Manhattan Beach and the Beach Cities have held up fairly well compared to other parts of the nation and the state over the last few years. However, make no mistake, we are headed for some rocky times if the FED can't figure out the right way to solve the current financial crisis. No question Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson along with FED Chairman Ben Bernanke and New York FED President Tim Geithner did their best to find a reasonable solution to a major disaster... the question is whether or not the solution is going to work.


A lot has happened in the last week as credit markets scramble to deal with some massive changes... Fannie and Freddie got a lifeline, Lehman is toast, AIG is saved, BofA got a whole lot bigger, while Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley are no longer investment banks and instead have opted for the relative safety of becoming commercial banks. The government is trying to set in motion a new entity to buy up the bad debt that is sucking the life out of our credit markets. The thought went that the bailout would solve everything and settle the economy... however today's stock market doesn't seem to agree.

Contrary to the hopes of boys in D.C. the stock market didn't see the bailout in the same rosy terms as the administration... the dollar fell, oil shot up to over $120 a barrel, gold is over $900, financial stocks are down and the market lost all the gains from Friday... it was a pretty crummy day for all.


As with all things when dealing with the FEDS the devil is in the details. The government is conveniently forgetting that it played a major role in this little debacle. First by pushing the concept of home ownership at any cost to individuals who should never have bought homes and then by allowing Wall Street to create nebulous products to fund a precarious social experiment. Now the boys in D.C. are scrambling to try and fix what they broke.


Part of the reason the market is bouncing around today is because we still don't really know the extent of the problem. There are big questions about how the actual program is going to work... and if it even has a chance of working. While there may be a need for some speed in passing the legislation in order to stabilize markets, Congress should be leery about putting all the country's eggs in one basket with little or no oversight. ... Paulson may be the man for the job but he should not have carte blanc without public scrutiny as is proposed by the current administration. That's what got us here in the first place.


On the other hand this is not a time for Congress to try and squeeze in a bunch of political junk. You can't save people who can't be saved. Sounds a bit convoluted but the bottom line is that the subprime fiasco that started this slide was based on loans made to people who didn't qualify for them in an effort by the government to make everyone a homeowner. Guess what... most of these people still don't qualify and throwing money at them will not solve their lack of financial stability... it's like trying to put water in a bucket full of holes.


So grab your hats and hang on to your wallets ... this ride is going to be very bumpy... even in Manhattan Beach

 

19 Comments on Manhattan Beach- Beach Cities: FED Bailout... the good...the bad... and the ugly

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2008
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Hello Kaye Thomas of Manhattan Beach....long time...what a mess we are in huh?

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Hey Kay.  You're still in my subscription list and there you are.

You're right about the above.  Neither the market or many others liked the way thing thing is going.

6:09pm • #3
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Hi Neal- You know the old saying about bad pennies and me.. we still show up every now and then...  Yep it's pretty nasty out there.  My market has been spared the worst of it but that may be changing...

 

Lenn- Glad I'm still on your list.. I do still read your terrific opinions but haven't had much time to comment.  Lots of antagonism out there... and very little trust.  it will take the market awhile before it decides whether or not the administration is finally getting the message..

6:28pm • #4
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Kaye .. thanks for this article.  We agree that now is not the time for Congress to try and squeeze in  political junk and hold up this legislation.  The subprime mess that started this was based on loans made to people who didn't qualify.  People who didn't qualify have and will pay a stiff price for seeking out the liar loans.  Harrison

6:43pm • #5
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Hey Kaye, good to see you back with your thoughts on the mess we are in. Can't disagree. You just have to wonder what we aren't being told, and if we are simply digging ourselves in deeper.

Jeff

7:24pm • #6
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Harrison- The government needs to figure out this mess sooner rather then later.  Mama always said you can't help them that won't help themselves.. in this case trying to bail out people who have no business owning a home would be even more stupid then some of the other things the administration has done..

 

Jeff- Nice to hear from you... I wqould be willing to bet ther are more things we don't know then thimgs we do know..

9:30pm • #7
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23
2008
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Kaye,

Oh...I forgot to tell you....my butt hurts really bad from the ride. More like short tail than short sale:)

6:48am • #8
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Neal- You would think that the least they could do is provide a padded seat if we have to go on this long ride.. Oh wait that's what this is supposed to be... LOL

11:34am • #9
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24
2008
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Hi Kaye~

You are spot on with this one. I am so disgusted by all of it I can hardly see straight. I heard the other day (from a close friend who's a banker) that the new plan is to let all those people in foreclosure walk away from their defunct loans without any damage to their credit. They'll lose the homes but will be free to start over. I'm not sure that this is a bad idea.... just interesting to see each new event unfold. 

Everyone should worry when the government starts funding privatized corporate bailouts! Great post : )

8:49am • #10
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Kelli- There are a number of bad ideas out there.. many of them coming from Congress.  I've heard they want to add credit card debt along with bad car loans and if they allow people to walk away from their homes without consequence then you can bet that the credit market will dry up no matter what they do.

1:25pm • #11

Kaye:  I agree, and it is good to see you back.  You are right.......it is going to be a bumpy ride.

3:17pm • #12
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Dianne- Thanks.. We have seen bank failures before and it wasn't nice.. the question this time seems to be whether or not you believe the government.  We did not see that the last time.

 

4:56pm • #13
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15
2008
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Hi Kay, How are you. I enjoyed reading this and don't have anything significant to add, just wanted to say hello.

12:39am • #14
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Hi William,

 Glad you dropped by.. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods...

K

2:12am • #15
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31
2008
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All my life people yelled at me for not listening to the little voice on my shoulder (I listen to ALL the voices in my head LOL) - and I had one on my shoulder about the bail out. I think they made a mistake and I didn't want them to do it...but of course i certainly hope it works out better than it has so far.

Happy Halloween, Kaye!

8:52pm • #16
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01
2008
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Carole,

 Hope you had fun last night.. I think they needed to do something however they should have gone in swinging... and basically said that we will save your butt but you have to do XYZ for the money.  Instead in typical gov't fashion they are throwing money round without any conditions.

10:57am • #17
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07
2008
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Kaye - I feel Paulson and the Fed have pretty much done what they felt was right to plug the holes in the economy.  They have essentially been reactive in their approach, while applying silly putty in the economic fissures and cracks, as they appear.  Hopefully, at some point, moves will be made to create jobs, and get the problems of mainstreet addressed.   

10:43am • #18
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Myrl,

I agree creating new jobs is a better answer then throwing more money into the hopper. There are just too many issues.. jobless report was far higher then anticipated.  It will be interesting to see what the new Pres has in mind  other then raising my taxes.

11:08am • #19
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07
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Hi Kaye,

Great article. You've really got a feel for this mess. I spoke to my 90 year old grandmother just this weekend and she says we all need to spend. In her eyes, it's only going to get better if we open our pocket books a little and not keep them closed. I guess she's thinking post WWII.

I agree with her in a way. Unless someone buys these properties we have sitting around, more and more homes will foreclose. That's not good for anyone regardless of what Obama does.

And, believe me, your taxes will hurt next year!

See ya round the beach!

10:12pm • #20

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