Hi guys, I found a nice property and the owner is a Real Estate Investor who's open to do a lease option to buy. I've never done this before and I would like some advice from you guys who definately have more experience and knowledge.

The property is a multifamily, 4 unit, in a very good part of town that's got a good rental rate and no vacancies. Looking through the comparables I wasn't able to find something that was comparable to it but I was able to get it down from 839K to the upper 750sK. The owner lives in Houston, TX, and wants to sell (according to him) because he wants to use the money in TX since it's cheaper to buy and it's a better investment all together. He also said that he's not there anymore and it's harder to be a landlord, even though his partner is here in NYC. The building is full of tenants, but the rent could be about $25-$50 higher. I asked him about this and he said that they were "good" tenants and he didn't want to loose them. But if it's a good neighborhood I wonder if it's really that hard to loose them. Maybe the tenants aren't that good after all and he's just wanting to get rid of the headache and leaving the dirty work for the new owner. I don't know, but I'll get a better idea once I go meet the tenants this Saturday God willing.

I asked about owner financing but he cannot since he has country wide and they said that they can't put anyone else on the deed unless he pays off the mortgage. Basically he can't do it. Anyways, I'm having a little trouble with the numbers and maybe some of you guys have some suggestions for me to be able to find a formula that can better help me do the numbers to see if it'll work.

He told me that he would not do a lease option for any more than 24 months, which I do not like at all. How can I make it attractive for him to want to do it for a minimum of 36 months? The rental rates come in at an average of $1300. He's renting the apts around 1225. Now, the taxes are about 4K, and the utilities come in at around $4,000 a month with the taxes. Of course I added a little more just in case so as to not get any surprises. By the way does anyone know where one could get a better assesment of the utilities outside of asking the owner? What if they're lying?

How on earth could I make this work? How should I negotiate the rent amount for the lease option? His mortgage he said was about $4,100 though he said not to worry about it. I was like huh? Also he said that he wanted 80K as a deposit that would go towards the final payment.

How does all this work? Does anyone have a simple dumb version they can share with me please? Because it sounds so confusing, and the numbers make me dizzy.Still, I find myself sooooo excited about the possibilities and I want to learn as much as I can and finally understand it.

Thanks in advanced folks. I really appreciate your wisdom and your advice.

Carolina.

 
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6 Comments on What should you watch out for when doing a Lease Option to buy as a buyer?

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Hi - BTW - My husband is a graduate of Far Rockaway High! 

 

Consider:  Why would someone want to do a lease option in a declining market?  Makes no sense.

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My only experience is with a single residence.  The written lease had an option clause that a deposit of $5000.00 was required for the option to purchase within a year.  In the event that the buyer failed to secure a mortgage within the time frame of the option, the buyer would lose the $5000.00.  Some investers advertise rent w/ purchase option and fail to put it in writing, some states have specific laws pertaining to rent to purchase agreements.   Some agreements allow for a portion of the rent to be counted towards the purchase price as well as the deposit.  Others allow two years for the option.  My biggest concern as a buyer would be the amount required to put down, and my ability to exercise the option when the time came.

3:17pm • #3

Active Rain is an anasing place!

Thank you for the great information and advice, I will look to see what kind of response and advice you get form it.

Also consider that law are different in different states

Aloha

3:35pm • #4
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Carolina, your enthusiasm is terrific....but don't let that cloud your judgment on making a sound business decision. Please enlist the services of a financial planner or accountant to make sure the numbers make sense for this to be a sound investment. As far as the utility expenses, your local utility provider (Con-Ed?) should be able to supply you with an accurate assessment of the utility expense for that property.

If the proposed deal moves foward to the point of making a formal offer - hire an attorney to craft the contract - especially if your going to have a lease to purchase option. Don't rely on the seller to write the contract. Protect your interests and assets.

Bottom line is - do your research, proceed with caution, and trust your instincts. But please, no matter what your final decision is - don't lose your enthusiasm! Good Luck!

9:58pm • #5
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June, Paul, Stephanie, and Jim:

Well well well... My cat fell in the well. Ha,ha,ha,ha! Oh man, you guys are scaring moi!!!! Just kitting guys, I'm not scared, yet.

I'm definately going to hire an attorney. I've been looking for a good one for a while now, but haven't found him/her yet. I'm not worried though, I'm sure I will. Of course: If you guys know anyone don't hold back please let a sister know.

I did not know I'd have to get the help of an accountant for this... Can we say CRAPOLA? I thought that there was some super simple way of understanding it, but I guess not. 

Thanks for the suggestion of Con Ed for the utilities Jim, my good amigo.

Now June a lease option may not be so bad after all, as long as the numbers make sense. In the right situation it could put money into your pocket for a couple of years in a rental situation like this one, and then you have a couple of years to get the money or find another buyer.

I've got a lot of work to do guys, by the way: Paul thanks for explaining the whole money down thing because I didn't get that. This owner guy wants 80K down, which is doable but now I actually I understand better. The money is going to count towards the purchase, however if I do not buy it I loose that 80K plus the rent money I'd be paying the guy. I can see how June was thinking it was crazy to do that.

Anyways guys, I really appreciate your wisdom and knowledge. I'm going to sleep now because I'm seeing double and it's like almost tres de la manana. Adios amigos!!!

Carolina.

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Make sure all option money stays in an escrow account.  We have seen lots of LOs go to foreclosure.   Right now for the buyer 24-26 months is a great lease option term.  Who knows were all of this is heading :0

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