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PLEASE SECRETARY PAULSON, DEFINE "ASSET" FOR AMERICAN TAX PAYERS

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

Secretary Paulson, please send us an itemized list so we can get a handle on what you have eluded to as, a pending catastrophe if Congress doesn't give you $700.000.000.000 to go on a shopping spree.

I find it strange, Secretary Paulson, that you persist in referring to the items that you wish to purchase cashwith $700,000,000,000 as "assets".  Further, just whose "assets" do you intend to purchase with this $700,000,000,000?

I know what my assets are; real estate, a vehicle, household goods, sports equipment, equities, business equipment, copyrights, electronics, cash, cash flow, a gazillion web sites and probably some other things that have value.  I'd love to "deleverage" my "assets" as you wish to arrange for the guys on Wall Street. 

If you do get the $700,000,000,000 and you find that it is a tad more than you need, I would love for you to send a chuck of that money my way so I can pay off my mortgage.  It's my only debt and, seems to me, that if I pay that off, I could buy another piece of real estate or other "asset".  That type of "asset" I understand. 

The thing that is so confusing is that the "assets" you persist in telling us that we must buy appear to be intangible.  Excuse me Sir, but $700,000,000,000 of intangibles may be a bit much.  I know that if any American tax payer invests in more "assets" than they have income to pay, I would be in bankruptcy.  I haven't yet seen any explanation as to why the remaining companies in trouble choking on worthless MBSs that they probably don't even know which drawer they're in, don't just file a chapter 11 and sell these "assets" to the highest bidder.  Or, are you telling us that these "assets" have no mark-to-market value.  And, by the way, when and if you do buy these "assets", who will do the valuation????  

I know that a lot of Wall Street folks might lose jobs if this doesn't go through.  However, since they make an average $550,000 each, including the Secretaries, surely they have significant savings.  I know the CEOs pay is about $15,000,000.  I'm sure they put a little aside.

Perhaps you would consider some other names for what it is you wish to by with $700,000,000,000.  I could suggest that the American tax payer and a few Congressmen could get a handle on this request if we were told we are buying a position in the financial Wall Street entities that new hold these "assets". 

I thought that one of our Senators would ask my question, "what do you mean by "asset", in the hearings all over the TV today.  Unfortunately, all I could grasp was "blah, blah, blah".

Now, I'm not sure that the American tax payer wants to take an ownership position in companies with balance sheets in the red.  Nor, do I believe that the American tax payers are particularly interested in buying into companies that are so badly managed that they purchased a sufficiency of worthless paper, those pesky MBSs, that they can no longer meet their payrolls.  Did you obtain an appraisal for the "assets" that you wish to buy for $700.000.000.000?  Being somewhat familiar with corporate financial statements, I understand that a liability can quickly be turned into an asset by the Wall Street folks.  However, I fear that, included in the valuation of the "assets" you wish us to buy will be "stuff" that turns a mark-to-market valuation into a fair market value estimate which could include, not don't take this wrong, Good Will.  Seems to me that the folks who spawned the mortgage mess that has wrecked the mortgage industry and the real estate industry can't put a lot of value on Good Will. 

I have another idea.  Why not just insure these "assets" and auction them.  That's what would happen if I default on my mortgage.  Of course, that won't help the Wall Street folks, but no one is going to come to my rescue if I default or lose all liquidity.  Loss of liquidity is a real possibility for any real estate broker when the results of the perfidy involved in the mortgage mess has significantly reduced our income.  Didn't you get my note requesting a mere $1,000,000 to tide me over until I could establish more "liquidity"??  Perhaps not.  Check your mail box. 

It would be greatly appreciated if you would get back to us with a list of the "assets" you wish for use to buy.  My share of that $700,000,000,000 is going to be about $10,000 for the first installment. 

So, I believe that I and all American households are entitled to a detailed list of the "assets" you wish to buy.  Also, if you don't mind, please have it in alphabetical order.  I'm sure that a list of "assets" that will cost $700,000,000,000 for the first installment will take some time to ponder. 

I look forward to hearing from you.

Real estate talk.

 

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Comments(42)

Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Although I'm afraid that the bailout is necessary to prevent the collapse of our economy, I agree that those on Wall Street who helped create this mess should be shown the door.  They aren't going to be impoverished - and I don't even want to discuss keeping their golden parachutes intact.

Sep 24, 2008 04:49 PM
C Tann-Starr
Tann Starr & Associates, Inc. - Palm Bay, FL

Lenn Harley, I absolutely love the way your mind works. I'm gonna be hanging out here to see how this develops. I'm with you on this one.. :-)

Sep 24, 2008 04:53 PM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

What a laugh er...just another way to pass the buck...you get your hand caught in the cookie jar and now they are still looking for the crumbs.

Sep 25, 2008 12:15 AM
Paddy (Patricia) Pizappi
Better Homes and Gardens Rand Realty - Pine Bush, NY
Real Estate Associate Broker Hudson Valley NY

How come I keep hear Dolly Parton singing "Here I Go Again...."?  Thanks for your analysis Lenn.  Looking forward to the next installment.

Sep 25, 2008 12:17 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

Lenn, I am in total agreement with you.  I was listening to this yesterday, and they were actually saying, "Who knows, we may even make a profit on this?"  What lies.  This is a bailout of their own.

Sep 25, 2008 01:42 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jim.  You're right.  What is so pathetic is that they believe that we buy this garbage.

Paddy.  You just never know what will inspire an ActivRainer.  I'm a news junkie so there's lots of "stuff" going on.

Neal.  It's quite a spectacle, isn't it.

C Tann.  I think this one has about run it's course, but I'll be baaaackk.

Ruthmarie.  Isn't it amazing how much the CEOs on Wall Street can walk away with when they fail miserably???  It's astounding.

James.  I suspect that the short term benefit from the alcohol will be more tangible than any benefits we see from the bailout.

Terry.  I always use the zeros.  The visual is worth $000,000,000s.

Richard.  Indeed.  It's downright unAmerican.

Donna.  Funny thing, I could list my "assets", put a value beside each of them.  That's why I am simply not satisfied with the word "assets" from Mr. Paulson.  Just what are we getting????? 

Michael.  Brilliant.  Absolutely brilliant. 

Christopher.  I'm not convinced.  For $700,000,000,000, I'd like to see some hard assets. 

Chuck.  Indeed.  This gives new meaning to many words, like "assets". 

Gene.  Funny.  I guess that thing that is so discomforting for me is the element of "trying" to do stuff.  Geez.  Even I don't risk capital by trying stuff.  I study, investigate and then commit capital.  It appears that Paulson simply wants to use $700,000,000,000 to "try" this bailout.  We keep hearing, "what if it doesn't work".  How can that even be a question when you're talking about $700,000,000,000?

 

 

 

Sep 25, 2008 01:58 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Janna.  I'm always deadly serious.  Ask folks who know me.

Eleanor.  Good point.  Most folks get to examine the "asset" before buying into it.

 

Sep 25, 2008 01:59 AM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Excellent point and Congress needs to get off their collective (assets) and do somthing without rushing into this. I am loathe to trust the word of the folks that got us in theis mess and now it is being foisted on us in such a hurry. Oops, got on a soapbox there and just wanted to say that I agree!

Sep 25, 2008 02:36 AM
Ken Montville
RE/MAX United Real Estate - College Park, MD
The MD Suburbs of DC

Actually, I've always understood mortgages (and, by extension, mortgage backed securities) as liabilities.  It's something that causes outflow from one's bank account.  An asset, on the other hand, produces some kind of income.  A house really doesn't become an asset unless you can sell it for more than you owe (not to be confused with more than you bought it for) or, in the case of investment properties, produces an income greater than your liability (i.e., the mortgage and other expenses).

So, I'm thinking that the Hon. Secretary really wants us to purchase the liabilities of these financial institutions but liability doesn't sound quite right even though he's screaming that the sky is falling.

Sep 25, 2008 03:38 AM
Chuck Christensen
Your Financial Coach - Bellingham, WA

A Mortgage is a liability to the home owner, but is considered an asset to the bank because they own a note, to be traded on the OTC market for other things of value. The home attached to it is only colateral.

Home owners like to believe their house is an asset, but it is not an asset until they sell it and produce a value on the sale of that tangible object. An assumable value has no actual value. Even an appraisal is just an assumption of value.

Sep 25, 2008 07:15 AM
Cynthia Tilghman, RealtorĀ® Onslow County NC Home Specialist
Kingsbridge Realty, Inc - Hubert, NC

Lenn,
Don't you know we are not suppose to question the wisdom of our elected/appointed officials? 

Sep 25, 2008 09:58 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Cynthia.  Wisdom / elected officials is an oxymoron.

 

Sep 25, 2008 10:21 AM
Dick & Sandy Beals
Wilmington Real Estate 4U Wilmington, NC - Wilmington, NC

Lenn,

Lenn "tell it like it is" Harley...I got a real kick out of the comment that "what if it is not enough, and what is plan B if it isn't?"  A plan looking to fail right out of the gate!

Dick Beals

Sep 25, 2008 12:07 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Lenn- You GO girl! Run for office! You are the one! :)

I am not for the bail out bill at all. If we go into a depression then we will come out better and stronger for it. It is time for a cleansing. We need to relearn to word, FRUGAL and RESPONSIBLE. I think this bail out is an insider job.

Hey, in your list while you are at it, have all those politicians that were given money from Fannie, Freddie and Lehman give it back, they could contribute to that 700,000,000,000 and THEN have the FBI start their investigations with those guys!

Sep 25, 2008 02:19 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Dick.  In my system of accounting, if you don't know how much you need and don't know what it's going to cost, you can't afford it.

Katerina.  One of the things that is so disturbing about this mess is that the government has been "throwing money" at this meltdown for 2 months.  Yet, they have no idea what the ultimate cost will be.  BTW, Paulson can't find $700,000,000,000.00.  He has to print it.  Which, of course, means that every single dollar we citizens already have in savings will be worth that much less, yet, our mortgage payments stay the same and the cost of goods and services continue to rise.  Inflation is rearing it's ugly head which means Mr. Bernanke will be anxious to raise rates.  So, any of us with HELOCs pegged to the prime will see an increase. 

And the beat goes on.

 

 

Sep 25, 2008 10:25 PM
Susan Milner
Florida Future Realty, Inc. - Cape Coral, FL
Cape Coral Real Estate Broker, FloridaFutureAgents

Lenn,

 

When you receive that list can you forward it on to me? I'm dieing to understand this too :)

Sep 26, 2008 03:46 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Susan.  I'm still waiting.

If we can't laugh at this mess, we're doomed.

 

Sep 26, 2008 03:51 AM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator

Lenn I have to tell you that I have thoroughly enjoyed listening in to the debate over this rescue plan. It is probably some of the best debate in Congress since Bobby Kennedy faced down the mob. In fact, it's a bit similar. Enjoyed you post and the comments immensely. Also enjoyed NOT having my head emersed in the Halls of Congress for a minute - even though I was watching the debate just before reading your 2 day old post. GOOD ONE!

Sep 26, 2008 02:53 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Ken.  Thanks.  Here we are at 6:04 p.m. Saturday, the negotiators are still at it. 

Someone let is slip that the Democrats are decorating the bill with the usual boondoggles for cronies.  I'm hearing about $30,000,000,000 for earmarks.  They simply cannot restrain themselves.  A big chunk would go to ACORN.

 

 

Sep 27, 2008 10:19 AM
Maureen Megowan
Remax Estate Properties - - Palos Verdes Estates, CA
Palos Verdes Real Estate Blog

Reading these comments, it is amazing to me the confusion as to what the socalled bail-out plan proposes to do. The assets which will be purchased are the distressed loans on the books of lending institutions. These are assets , as they are loans owed to the lender. The loans are to be bought at their distressed values, which are much lower than their actual amount owed. The purpose of this is to provide fresh capital to the lending industry so that they can use it to make new loans.

The plan does nothing to relieve the lenders of their losses on these loans, as they will be paid only the low distressed value of the loans. They are not "bailing out" these institutions, as they will have to recognize the losses on their books when they sell them to the government.

The problem that this is designed to alleviate is the fact that money is simply not flowing within the financial system. Banks are not lending to each other, and are hoarding cash because of concerns about being able to remain liquid, because they can not get these old distressed loans off of their books.

Oct 03, 2008 07:24 AM