Do You Know Where Your Buyers' Deposits Are? Ethics, Standards of Practice and The Law.


There is  the Realtor® Code of Ethics and Standards of Practise and then there is state law. The difference between the two is that while the law seeks only to protect the consumers the Realtor® Code of Ethics and Standards of Practice goes above that and extends to the ways in which Realtors® treat each other.

In the state of Florida there are thousands of people who have real estate licenses. Every person in the state of Florida that sells real estate ( there are exceptions) must be licensed by the state of Florida to do so. In fact, recently it became a FELONY to sell real estate without a license. Not every real estate licensee is a member of  the National Association of Realtors® or the state and local boards of Realtors®. A real estate agent who is not a member of NAR is not subject to the Code of Ethics and Standards of Practise set forth by the National Association of Realtors®.

The second biggest reason that real estate agents in Florida lose their licenses is over deposits or earnest money deposits. The first reason is for misrepresentation. real estate deposits
 
A true story ( the names have been changed to protect the innocent):

Diane wrote a contract for her buyer. He gave her a deposit of $10,000 at 3 p.m. in  CASH. She was very nervous with all that cash and so she rushed to her office to give it to her broker. When she arrived she discovered that her broker had gone home for the day and she was not able to reach him. She was so scared of either losing the money or someone stealing the money that she rushed over to her bank and deposited the money for safekeeping into her personal bank account. FREC somehow found out about this and she lost her license for putting the cash into her bank account. This is illegal to do in the state of Florida.


The state of Florida is very serious about deposit issues. If you have a check made out to your real estate company it must be out of your hands and into the hands of your broker as fast as you can but no later than the next business day.

When must funds be deposited in an escrow account?

Deposits of escrow monies should be immediately deposited upon receipt by the licensee. 'Immediately' generally means the placement of a deposit in an escrow account no later than the end of the third business day following receipt of the item to be deposited. Saturdays, Sundays and legal holidays shall not be considered as business days. A deposit received on Monday must be deposited no later than the end of the following Thursday. ( this is from FREC)


NAR Standards of Practice Article 2-4 states:
" Realtors® shall not be parties to the naming of a false consideration in any document, unless it be the naming of an obviously nominal consideration."

When you accept earnest money from a buyer you need to know where this money comes from and it is really there. Never sign for a deposit that is not there. This is the # 1 biggest mistake that I see agents make in our area. I get these offers all the time from buyer's agents with deposit amounts written into the contract but no deposit taken.

We insist that if a buyer is not placing an actual deposit at the time of the offer that the words, "within 3 business days of the acceptance of this offer funds shall be placed in named Title company at this address with this phone number and this contact person". In fact the new FAR BAR contracts have a space to add the title company information. I am not an attorney and I am not giving any legal advice.

deposits for real estateLet us examine this scam that takes place in the state of Florida with deposits:

Mr and Mrs Smith go house hunting. They arrive in Naples Florida and find out who the newest agent to have joined the board there is. Her name is Miss Rooky. Mr Smith calls Miss Rooky up at her office and says they would like to see one of the listings that her office has listed. She is so excited. This is going to be her first showing and the house is listed at 3.2 million dollars! WOW!  Miss Rooky meets Mr and Mrs Smith and shows them this listing. The Smiths say they are in love with the house and tell Miss Rooky to write up an offer. They want the house.

Upon arrival back at the real estate office Miss Rooky can hardly contain herself. The Smiths are going to make a full offer! When it comes time to fill in the blanks, Miss Rooky asks how much of a deposit will they be putting down. Mr Smith says, $100,000. They finish filling out the contract, the Smiths sign the contract. Miss Rooky signs the contract and fills in her company information, then she makes a copy of the contract and as she hands it over to the buyers she asks them for their check so she can make a copy of the check and turn it into her broker. Mr Smith smiles and looks over to Mrs Smith and says, " Honey, write the check please" at which point Mrs Smith gets an OH OH look on her face. She exclaims, " Oh NO! Where is my check book." Mr Smith then says, " Dear, don't tell me you forgot your check book at the hotel!" Mrs Smith says in an emarrassed tone that she did leave the check book in the room at their hotel. Mr Smith then goes on to tell Miss Roocky that they are SO sorry that they do not have their checkbook but that they will go back to the hotel and get it and bring it by first thing in the morning. Miss Roocky is so excited about the offer that she just says that this will be fine and she will see them in the morning at her office.

The next morning Miss Roocky is so excited and was hardly able to sleep the night before. She rushes in to the office. However, before she arrives at her office Mr and Mrs Smith walk into the broker's office and say that they have changed their minds about the offer they made the night before with Miss Roocky and they want their deposit returned. Miss Roocky arrives on the scene to see the couple in her broker's office. When she walks into the office she hears them tell her broker that this money was in cash. $100,000 in cash they said that they had left with their agent!

Now this Mr and Mrs Smith can travel from city to city in Florida performing this scam. And they can get away with it based on the numbers of agents who accept deposits without proof of funds, without checks and without signatures of acceptance from Title companies. I see agents take offers stating deposits that are not there all the time!

 real estate depositsSafe Tips For Deposits:  

  • Do not ever write an offer stating that you have received a deposit when you have not.
  • Before writing an offer confirm the source of the deposit.
  • If the buyer is getting funds from a 401K; it will be at least 2 weeks before they will have those funds in their possession.
  • We have decided that our brokerage will not hold escrow deposits. All deposits go to a title company, a third party.
  • Make sure the title company signs that they have accepted a deposit from your buyer or from you.
  • Make sure you email or fax the listing agent a copy with who signed for these funds.
  • Know the laws in your state regarding monetary and other considerations.

Safeguard your license.

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32 Comments on Do You Know Where Your Buyers' Deposits Are? Ethics, Standards of Practice and The Law.

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VERY GOOD ADVICE.

Our laws are quite different but just as severe and escrow is one of the top two reasons for agents getting in trouble.

I do hold earnest money deposits for buyers, but I'm a control freak.

I would never take a cash deposit. 

 

2:22pm • #1
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With money orders available at most 24 hour drugstores there is absolutely NO reason to take cash.  

There are reasons why the laws are so strict regarding earnest money deposits.  New agents would be wise to heed your sound advice.

2:38pm • #2
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We have strict laws about taking large cash deposits (money laundering and fraud).

Our deposits have to be in the client trust account within 48 hours of receipt.
Our offers state that the deposit cheque is 'herewith', or 'upon acceptance'. 
A cheque, usually certified, or a bank draft, is usually the choice for deposits.
I have never taken a cash deposit for a purchase, and never will.

Now, all buyers have to provide photo identification and they have to show proof of funds, and account numbers where funds came from, etc.  It's very strict.  We don't play with these things.

Unfortunately, there are still brokers/companies out there who 'play' with trust monies.  Not only do they lose their license, some have recently been sent to jail.  It's only fair.

3:00pm • #3
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Katerina,   a great refresher and so important!  I recently had someone mailing me a check and I was on the lookout for it... of course now we have the  escrow verification procedure as well which for all the hype has been ok and  as the realtor and is good reminder that I have everything where it needs to be and accounted for!  I hope Mr. and Mrs. Smith stay out of Naples :-)

8:39pm • #4
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Excellent post. Kris I don't think you can get a $10,000 money order from Safeway ;) That is a very rare instance I am sure but I can tell you from the lender's side it would be an issue anyway. Even if the deposit were paid in cash unless the buyer could show a paper trail. Down payments must be sourced and cash isn't always easy to source. Great post Katerina!

10:48pm • #5
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There are some new laws too katerina. The name and address and phone number of the escrow agent now needs to be on contracts. WRITTEN communication with the buyer that their deposit is in the account MUST now be made within three days of receipt.

11:18pm • #6
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It's amazing the scams people fall for... I see agents all the time sign that they have received a deposit but haven't.  So far I don't know any that have been burned by that but it will happen.  Very good post Katerina.

12:02am • #7
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Looks like comingling is a problem evreywhere.  I teach prelicense and continuing education courses and we constantly mention the problems associated with comingling funds.  But in Texas each month agents get it trouble because the comingle.

5:33am • #8

One can not take anything lightly regarding deposit money. Follow your states laws.

7:47am • #9
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It is really scary and unbelievable that any agent would state there was a deposit when there wasn't one.  Our state contacts allow for deposits to be paid after acceptance by filling in the number of days after acceptance that it will be paid.  It then becomes a contract clause as to being a voidable offer if they do not pay the agreed deposit on time. If it is a cash contact you of course what the money when you right to contract.

8:02am • #10
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In this part of New York State most agents are not taking deposits on offer as the offer and signed binder go to an attorney for review and the seller's attorney has traditionally held the majority of the deposit money anyway.  (We normally took a small amount on offer but we find it is easy to walk away from in the scheme of things and guarantees nothing) Our sales are very heavily involved with lawyers here.  I hated cash deposits for some of the reasons you speak about here.  The most important thing to do is to document and get signatures on everything.  Good post

8:56am • #11
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Oh my what a scam, I have never heard of this one. I would not take cash EVER. Would the issue have been resolved if the agent had written in the contract, EMD to be delivered at a certain time and dated?

What happened?

Did the broker have to fork up the $100,000. ?

9:08am • #12
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Wow KAT,

What a post.  I had never heard of that scam.  You are so right, never say you have a deposit & don't.  I can't believe people would do such a thing.  This is an exellent post.  Also, great job differentiating between realtor & agent.

Thanks for sharing,

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Lenn- THANK YOU! We don't touch their deposits. I like the third party title companies, then when there is a dispute we as the brokers do not have to go through those long drawn out forms of dispute filings with the state.

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Kris- Most stores won't give money orders in such large amounts. She would have still been scared I am sure about holding on to a money order too. I mean, those can get stolen as well.

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Sylvie- I coach an agent in Canada and your laws are a bit on the extreme side as far as deposits and contracts go. We don't have to get a photo ID and all that. I also know that the Realtor boards up there were fighting these new rules for a while.

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Shannon- Yes, let's keep The Smiths out of Naples and Wellington too!

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Ken- In our ethics class our instructor was telling us he went to a closing where the seller was really mad and he had to bring money to closing so he brought a wheelbarrow full of nickels to the closing!

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Jesse- I see it here all the time too. I am sure some people will be scammed and learn the hard way. Or just be careless and then get called on the carpet. Thanks for the comment.

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Richard- Agents here lose their licenses every month over such things. It is a simple thing to learn NOT to do!

2:46pm • #21
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They come up with a new scam every month....do they really think they can get away with it?

We always have escrow hold funds and don't deal in cash.

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Mary- To think that we are being trusted with some of the most important contracts a person will ever sign, to take it lightly is doing a great disservice.

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Missy- The broker would have to cough up the $100,000! The 10,000 cash deposit story was a true story. The 100K story is a what if case story from an ethics class. I am not sure it it actually happened but the legal principles are set in the story. What if the broker did not have the money?

We can take earnest money with a forward date of receipt of the deposit. We have our title company send us a signed acceptance form that they have received the deposit from the buyer.

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Jean- There are new scams every day and we just need to be aware of what our proceedures are and follow them.

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Paddy- Here attorneys rarely are part of a transaction. We use title companies to do the closings. Many brokerages hold escrow deposits. We have chosen not to. I don't want anything to do with that accountability. Sometimes attorneys do closings but only if they also get the title work.

2:56pm • #27
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Yvette- Thank you! We just finished our mandotory ethics class and heard some of these stories, as I am sitting in class I am thinking, this would make a great post!

2:58pm • #28
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Wow, that is a scary story!

In our area in NY we not only do not take deposits, but we don't write up contracts either!  We have way too many lawyers that would be of jobs if it were otherwise.  ;-)

I've been told (by agents in other areas) that we are spoiled . . .

6:05pm • #29

Katerina- That's some scary stuff.  I couldn't imagine ever accepting a cash deposit, or escrow money.  In NJ, we do it a bit differently: no deposits taken until the contract for sale is signed.

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Sandy- WOW, I knew you have attorneys who do your closings and title work but I did not know that you don't write contracts! WOW! That is my strength, contracts and negotiating. That is a big value we bring to the table.

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Matt- It is interesting to learn how they do things in all the different parts of the country. Thanks for your comment.

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